2025 Brownlow Medal

[Tom14]

It is a farce. We can't have the umpires deciding the Brownlow anymore.

 

[Lionwest]

Taranto also got like 20+ votes, do you remember him doing anything of note this season? Couple that with Viney outscoring NWM in THAT game and there is a serious flaw in this system. Something is seriously broken. Cripps did not have COMFORTABLY the greatest season of all time last year and Rowell did not rival it this year.

N Daicos has 98 votes across the last 3 seasons and hasn’t even won it!

 

[martinson]

I love the way people and commentators point to individual games when the votes don't go the way they think they should and say there's a serious flaw in the system.

As if there aren't flaws and biases in all of the other awards.

Gary Lyon just gave Dangerfield the highest individual prize in footy after a season where he wouldn't have ranked in the Top 20 players.

The charm of the Brownlow is that it's awarded by the umps and fiddling with that would be a major misstep.

 

[braddsey]

I’m a traditionalist but after Cripps (45) and then Rowell (39) this year something needs to change. It’s all out of whack with the tallies being accumulated.

Quite funny - while Whateley agreed Rowell is as worthy winner, he complained he got too many votes. I don’t recall him having such complaints last year when Crippa was BOG about every round of football he played.

It has made the count so boring, but it is probably a reflection of how modern footy is played.

Ultimately it is just another award, but because of tradition and advertising money it will always be on a pedestal.

Edit: it was still better viewing than the AA a few weeks back (but that’s probably because more players are on the gas so there’s at least some entertainment watching the side show).

 

[Elixuh]

The Brownlow scoring should be based on SuperCoach points

 

[dlanod]

N Daicos has 98 votes across the last 3 seasons and hasn’t even won it!

I can't see how anyone can read this stat and think the solution is to take it off the umpires...

 

[martinson]

I can't see how anyone can read this stat and think the solution is to take it off the umpires...

Exactly. Daicos has consistently polled excellently. And in no way got less than what he deserved.

 

[MacMum]

Heaven forbid the Vic journalists ever get a say in the voting.........no interstate team player would ever get a vote..

 

[dlanod]

Heaven forbid the Vic journalists ever get a say in the voting.........no interstate team player would ever get a vote..

The US sports and their MVP is done by journalists, but in general there's 50+ separate people representing a variety of locations and outlets all independently submitting a ranked choice vote and those are tallied up. That ensures less duplication and is definitely better than getting everyone in a room and having the loudest voices triumph.

 

[Lunchtime]

Taranto also got like 20+ votes, do you remember him doing anything of note this season? Couple that with Viney outscoring NWM in THAT game and there is a serious flaw in this system. Something is seriously broken. Cripps did not have COMFORTABLY the greatest season of all time last year and Rowell did not rival it this year.

Nothing is broken in terms of Taranto getting 20 Brownlow votes. He was the standout in a weak team. Good season by Taranto? Yes. Brownlow type season by Taranto? No. But a player will get votes if their teams wins and if they perform in a weak team = that equation is what happened to Taranto.

Sometimes that equation can mean a player winning a Brownlow.....Priddis comes to mind.

 

[Darren Downunder]

I love the way people and commentators point to individual games when the votes don't go the way they think they should and say there's a serious flaw in the system.

As if there aren't flaws and biases in all of the other awards.

Gary Lyon just gave Dangerfield the highest individual prize in footy after a season where he wouldn't have ranked in the Top 20 players.

The charm of the Brownlow is that it's awarded by the umps and fiddling with that would be a major misstep.

I think it was a terrible mistake to deprive the umpires of statistics from the game when casting their votes.
These guys are expected to run their backsides off all afternoon
Adjudicate countless split second decisions
Deal with the AFL knobs changing the rules every few weeks
Get thrown under the bus publicly by those same knobs if the Melbourne media starts baying
Have players diving, faking and berating them.
And then remember enough to decide the best and fairest players
Without the use of stats.

 

[Tom14]

The Brownlow scoring should be based on SuperCoach points

Oh Elixuh, are you a secret Fantasy Hat Bro Xerri Fan???

 

[Tom14]

Nothing is broken in terms of Taranto getting 20 Brownlow votes. He was the standout in a weak team. Good season by Taranto? Yes. Brownlow type season by Taranto? No. But a player will get votes if their teams wins and if they perform in a weak team = that equation is what happened to Taranto.

Sometimes that equation can mean a player winning a Brownlow.....Priddis comes to mind.

Reckon a few of your kids could have got some votes though. Not sure how Lalor didn't poll in a few games.

 

[Lunchtime]

Reckon a few of your kids could have got some votes though. Not sure how Lalor didn't poll in a few games.

Yeah perhaps so. I expect Taranto to be up there in Richmond's best & Fairest. Will be interesting who wins the Gold Coast Best & Fairest too.

The young players for Richmond were not too but ran out of legs as the season went on

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

I think this Daicos thing is the modern Colliwobbles.

Last years result was a joke and if this run of near misses continues it will be funny.

I wonder if I can back Nick to finish second next year

 

[Elixuh]

Oh Elixuh, are you a secret Fantasy Hat Bro Xerri Fan???

I’m sorry this was just a below the belt bit of bait. I feel bad about it.

SuperCoach is a disgrace.

 

[BrisVegasDru]

In my opinion Daicos may find it tough to win over the next few years, as the aging pies struggle to compete and win enough games. No doubt will poll high 20's, but reckon they miss the finals next year.

 

[Ceebee]

Happy that Rowell won it , a deserved winner .
Also good to give Collingwood a really shit week ,with Daicos not winning it again .

Hopefully Matt gets some public speaking training in the off season though .

 

[Saucery]

Perhaps they should send all dogy decisions to the ARC for endless replays of game days, the Brownlow could go longer than the finals. Or an AI Brownlow where there are no humans involved in the process, oh wait I read somewhere AI is rife with racial profiling. Let me get back to you.

 

[Coastal Lion]

I feel we could also see a Bailey Smith and Snoop Dog duet if the Cats win . The AFL has nailed the timing.

I don't think any of snoops songs contain the phrase "umm yeah umm"

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Find the media extremely disrespectful towards Rowell saying that the voting needs to be changed. All of this rubbish because Daicos didn't win.

 

[braddsey]

Find the media extremely disrespectful towards Rowell saying that the voting needs to be changed. All of this rubbish because Daicos didn't win.

You recon voting would have to be changed in Daicos got the 39 votes?

 

[martinson]

I still can't believe how Anderson won GOTY.

I mean there was not one redeeming quality about it that made it special. As I pointed out appreciating they weren't in the running, but take our game against the Pies on the weekend, but all of these goals which would never win goal of the week let alone GOTY were far better; Houston, Rayner's first, Charlie's etc. I mean Zorko's and Gallop's first were basically the equivalent.

Therefore what on earth am I missing how Anderson's won head of Wash and Flanders? Anderson's was miles off those.

Bewildering.

With you on that one McIvor.

Fail to see anything special about it at all. Will's wasn't anything great but a far better execution of skill.

I can't believe there weren't better goals than the 3 put up.

 

[BuntonRules]

Not annoyed that Daicos is not quite there, majorly pissed he has got Haydn Bunton's record of fastest to 100 yotes.

 

[martinson]

Andrew Dillon is as unimpressive in the media as any front person I've ever seen in any organisation.

Obviously they would've done whatever they could to improve him but he just doesn't have any presence or is able to exude any authority. Sounds like the kid in the store room .