2025 Draft Thread

[DiamondDogs8]

The kid I love from the Jets lit it up last round. Tom Burton, 30 disposals and a goal.

Trained with us in the pre season too

 

[Mojorisin]

Port have now opened a third spot in the MSD. If everyone uses their selections we could see alot more players taken then first thought.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Saw this on another thread so I took it

Sellwood almost certain to join AFL list

Michael Sellwood is almost certain to be on an AFL list by tomorrow night, with sources telling The West Australian the Bulldogs will take him with their first pick if he is still on the table.

thewest.com.au

"Peel Thunder premiership star Michael Sellwood is almost certain to go, with the Western Bulldogs putting him through a medical, while Port Adelaide met with the defender last week.

 

[goodcop badcop]

I've had a crack at a Phantom for tomorrow nights draft. I have actually done two! The way I view things the first 3 picks are pretty well set, with the rest of the draft hinging on who Carlton picks at 4. In both scenarios I have us picking a medium defender and a small forward.

A
1. West Coast Tom McCarthy
2. North Melbourne Archer May
3. Port Adelaide Ewan MacKinley
4. Carlton Michael Sellwood
5. Western Bulldogs Zac Banch
6. Essendon Oliver Eastland
7. Gold Coast Rod Ali
8. Collingwood Josh Browne
9. West Coast Milan Murdock
10. North Melbourne Cooper Trembath
11. Port Adelaide Jack Watkins
12. Western Bulldogs Zac Walker
13. Essendon Riley Mason
14. Gold Coast Caleb Lewis
15. Collingwood Charlie McCartin
16. Port Adelaide Harrison Ramm
17. Essendon Will Hoare
18. Essendon Adam Tomlinson


B
1. West Coast Tom McCarthy
2. North Melbourne Archer May
3. Port Adelaide Ewan MacKinley
4. Carlton Sam Toner
5. Western Bulldogs Michael Sellwood
6. Essendon Oliver Eastland
7. Gold Coast Rod Ali
8. Collingwood Josh Browne
9. West Coast Brandon Parfitt
10. North Melbourne Zac Banch
11. Port Adelaide Jack Watkins
12. Western Bulldogs Massimo Raso
13. Essendon Charlie McCartin
14. Gold Coast Caleb Lewis
15. Port Adelaide Harrison Ramm
16. Collingwood Riley Mason
17. Essendon Will Hoare
18. Essendon Cooper Trembath

Nice one. A lot will depend on what Port do it seems, sounds like they have strong interest in both Sellwood/McKinley. Carlton are very keen on Newton and Toner by reports so we should be able to land one of the above.

I'm predicting we'll end up with Sellwood and Banch.

 

[Mojorisin]

Nice one. A lot will depend on what Port do it seems, sounds like they have strong interest in both Sellwood/McKinley. Carlton are very keen on Newton and Toner by reports so we should be able to land one of the above.

I'm predicting we'll end up with Sellwood and Banch.

Sellwood and Banch would be absolute best case for me.

 

[dergert]

Watched a heap of footage of Ewan Mackinlay... He is exactly what we need. I'll be devastated if Port take him first

 

[GetDimmaBack]

A
1. West Coast Tom McCarthy
2. North Melbourne Archer May
3. Port Adelaide Ewan MacKinley
4. Carlton Michael Sellwood
5. Western Bulldogs Zac Banch
6. Essendon Oliver Eastland
7. Gold Coast Rod Ali
8. Collingwood Josh Browne
9. West Coast Milan Murdock
10. North Melbourne Cooper Trembath
11. Port Adelaide Jack Watkins
12. Western Bulldogs Zac Walker

Fun fact: Zac Walker is a big Dogs fan. Whole family are Bulldogs

 

[JohnnySteel]

Fun fact: Zac Walker is a big Dogs fan. Whole family are Bulldogs

Okay, bring him home. I’m sold.

 

[dogwatch]

I've had a crack at a Phantom for tomorrow nights draft. I have actually done two! The way I view things the first 3 picks are pretty well set, with the rest of the draft hinging on who Carlton picks at 4. In both scenarios I have us picking a medium defender and a small forward.

A
1. West Coast Tom McCarthy
2. North Melbourne Archer May
3. Port Adelaide Ewan MacKinley
4. Carlton Michael Sellwood
5. Western Bulldogs Zac Banch
6. Essendon Oliver Eastland
7. Gold Coast Rod Ali
8. Collingwood Josh Browne
9. West Coast Milan Murdock
10. North Melbourne Cooper Trembath
11. Port Adelaide Jack Watkins
12. Western Bulldogs Zac Walker
13. Essendon Riley Mason
14. Gold Coast Caleb Lewis
15. Collingwood Charlie McCartin
16. Port Adelaide Harrison Ramm
17. Essendon Will Hoare
18. Essendon Adam Tomlinson


B
1. West Coast Tom McCarthy
2. North Melbourne Archer May
3. Port Adelaide Ewan MacKinley
4. Carlton Sam Toner
5. Western Bulldogs Michael Sellwood
6. Essendon Oliver Eastland
7. Gold Coast Rod Ali
8. Collingwood Josh Browne
9. West Coast Brandon Parfitt
10. North Melbourne Zac Banch
11. Port Adelaide Jack Watkins
12. Western Bulldogs Massimo Raso
13. Essendon Charlie McCartin
14. Gold Coast Caleb Lewis
15. Collingwood Riley Mason
16. Port Adelaide Harrison Ramm
17. Essendon Will Hoare
18. Essendon Cooper Trembath

Nice work.

I particularly like phantom A where you have us getting two Zacs. Sammy Power should get his bob's worth out of that.

 

[Sonsofthescray]

Fun fact: Zac Walker is a big Dogs fan. Whole family are Bulldogs

Fun fact: Zac Walker is a big Dogs fan. Whole family are Bulldogs

Well he is from Phillip Island and we are the Phillip Island bulldogs so a given..

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Nice work.

I particularly like phantom A where you have us getting two Zacs. Sammy Power should get his bob's worth out of that.

Might go through to the 'keeper in many cases, DW, you old codger...

 

[Bonti 5416]

Would prefer Massimo Raso out of all the small forwards ive seen us linked with. Seems a genuine crumber and very clean hands. Can always use that at the feet of Darcy and Naughton. Might take a few years still but see traits. Can get away with not having elite speed with those traits.

Banch’s body looks miles off it to me. reminds me of honeychurch in size and stature. Cant see anything elite.

Similar thoughts on Ewan Mackinlay, doesn’t look like his speed is elite at AFL level but seems to rely on it.

Cant find too much footage or write ups about Cooper Herbert, Zac Walker and Sellwood would be worth the punt.

Fully expect us to take two.
A small forward and someone else, Sellwood by the sounds of things (if still there).

Dogs recruiters are starting to gain my trust again with later picks after the last few years so ultimately, will back them in whatever they do.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Would prefer Massimo Raso out of all the small forwards ive seen us linked with. Seems a genuine crumber and very clean hands. Can always use that at the feet of Darcy and Naughton. Might take a few years still but see traits. Can get away with not having elite speed with those traits.

Not that I disagree but you could replace the name with Kelsey Rypstra and your post would have been equally valid.

I'm not too fussed about positional elements, especially in part because our team is so strong that if we're expecting the MSD pick to play in the AFL team (even if we have an injury crisis in such a position), something has gone wrong for the rest of the season.

On the other hand, even if the player only has a six month contract, get in the biggest upside talent, and see if they improve in a full-time setup with greater resources IMO.

 

[Mojorisin]

Not that I disagree but you could replace the name with Kelsey Rypstra and your post would have been equally valid.

I'm not too fussed about positional elements, especially in part because our team is so strong that if we're expecting the MSD pick to play in the AFL team (even if we have an injury crisis in such a position), something has gone wrong for the rest of the season.

On the other hand, even if the player only has a six month contract, get in the biggest upside talent, and see if they improve in a full-time setup with greater resources IMO.

Rypstra's biggest issue was his body though. His body just didn't want him to play AFL.

 

[weltschmerz]

Rypstra did his ACL, PCL, and lateral collateral ligament. Those kind of tears are usually repaired with hamstring tissue, yeah? Could be why his hamstrings didn't hold up.

 

[Bonti 5416]

Not that I disagree but you could replace the name with Kelsey Rypstra and your post would have been equally valid.

I'm not too fussed about positional elements, especially in part because our team is so strong that if we're expecting the MSD pick to play in the AFL team (even if we have an injury crisis in such a position), something has gone wrong for the rest of the season.

On the other hand, even if the player only has a six month contract, get in the biggest upside talent, and see if they improve in a full-time setup with greater resources IMO.

Theres a lot more willingness to take a punt on players in MSD due to the fact they are outside main list and can be gone in 6 months like Rypstra was for us. I don't expect us to pick for the now but even with flea back in the team, we are still short of small forward depth. Arty Jones more high half forward. Same goes for Garcia.

West our only genuine crumber, Vandermeer has become more lead up and I cant even tell you was Mcneil is, a poor mans tory dickson? He has had a good year by his standards but we can definitely use some more competition in the long term for that genuine forward 50 crumber role which is so important with a tall forwardline. I like Massimo Raso as he seems he could genuinely make it in that role.

I feel like we have started to target role players with later picks as opposed to trying to find elite talent. Every team needs them, we have lacked them for a good few years and have suffered. Emergence of depth players this year as big an influence on our reliability each week as anything else.

Agree with others that I would love a small defender but there doesn't seem to be any decent ones around this MSD. Any names?

 

[Mofra]

Agree with others that I would love a small defender but there doesn't seem to be any decent ones around this MSD. Any names?

Voss from Frankston is the only other small defender mentioned

 

[goodcop badcop]

Theres a lot more willingness to take a punt on players in MSD due to the fact they are outside main list and can be gone in 6 months like Rypstra was for us. I don't expect us to pick for the now but even with flea back in the team, we are still short of small forward depth. Arty Jones more high half forward. Same goes for Garcia.

West our only genuine crumber, Vandermeer has become more lead up and I cant even tell you was Mcneil is, a poor mans tory dickson? He has had a good year by his standards but we can definitely use some more competition in the long term for that genuine forward 50 crumber role which is so important with a tall forwardline. I like Massimo Raso as he seems he could genuinely make it in that role.

I feel like we have started to target role players with later picks as opposed to trying to find elite talent. Every team needs them, we have lacked them for a good few years and have suffered. Emergence of depth players this year as big an influence on our reliability each week as anything else.

Agree with others that I would love a small defender but there doesn't seem to be any decent ones around this MSD. Any names?

Agree we are targeting more role players. I've mentioned the differences between Dalrymple and Milesi interesting to see what works best.

As for Raso, he reminds me of Cavarra. Very clean as you said and has smarts. I don't think he has enough other traits to make it as a genuine small forward though. His traits are more suited to a midfield role, but he's a bit too small and doesn't offer enough that others can't do.

Banch I also tend to agree with you just on what I've seen. I haven't seen his 8 goal assist game though (or much in general really), so I don't have a strong opinion on him.

 

[Wizard17]

Voss from Frankston is the only other small defender mentioned

I've seen Zero Hanger mention Donovan Toohey from Coburg

 

[dogwatch]

I appreciate all the posts from the keen talent watchers here. However I’m also geared up for the possibility of a “WTF?”selection because clubs (including ours) sometimes try to hide their interest in a player, especially a smoky that perhaps no other club has noticed. Especially in a rookie draft or a MSD.

Or maybe one or two clubs have indeed become aware of the smoky but if they think nobody else is interested they might choose to let him slide to their second or third pick. And then we pounce.

If we publicly demonstrate/leak keen interest in some obvious choices like Raso, Sellwood, McKinlay etc that might also deflect attention from our other targets. (From memory we got under Essendons guard like that with Tory Dickson

29

Tory Dickson

Age

38

Ht

184cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.7

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

G

1.6

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.8

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.0

4star

. They were mightily pissed off.)

Anyway let’s see what happens. I’m hoping for Sellwood and one of the small forwards.

 

[TiAn_]

I appreciate all the posts from the keen talent watchers here. However I’m also geared up for the possibility of a “WTF?”selection because clubs (including ours) sometimes try to hide their interest in a player, especially a smoky that perhaps no other club has noticed. Especially in a rookie draft or a MSD.

Or maybe one or two clubs have indeed become aware of the smoky but if they think nobody else is interested they might choose to let him slide to their second or third pick. And then we pounce.

If we publicly demonstrate/leak keen interest in some obvious choices like Raso, Sellwood, McKinlay etc that might also deflect attention from our other targets. (From memory we got under Essendons guard like that with Tory Dickson. They were mightily pissed off.)

Anyway let’s see what happens. I’m hoping for Sellwood and one of the small forwards.

I’m not prepared to rule out that we freed up a second spot and still don’t take anyone!

 

[dogwatch]

I’m not prepared to rule out that we freed up a second spot and still don’t take anyone!

I think it's a fair chance. As others have noted it will depend on whether our target players are still there.

I'm guessing we have about 6-8 players we are prepared to select. Most of those are on every clubs list so I expect most will go in the first 10 picks. Happy days if there's one left at our second pick (it could be the smoky I was talking about).

 

[VitalDread]

VIA HS

The Western Bulldogs are fans of Richmond VFL forward Massimo Raso, with Raso and Sellwood both completing medicals with the club.
Raso played under former Western Jets talent lead Luke Williams

Luke Williams

Age

45

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

3.4

1star

K

1.6

1star

HB

1.8

2star

M

1.4

2star

T

0.2

3star

, who joined the Bulldogs recruiting team this year.
The Bulldogs have also tracked Mackinlay and Werribee VFL small forward Flynn Young.

 

[ossie_21]

Does the MSD usually run quickly as opposed to the normal draft night, when clubs still take 5 minutes to take even the most obvious number 1 pick?

 

[Bulldogs85]

Does the MSD usually run quickly as opposed to the normal draft night, when clubs still take 5 minutes to take even the most obvious number 1 pick?

Yes it runs a lot quicker then the national draft