2025 Draft Thread

[Dav1d]

Split our two picks for the second round with a cheeky bid on Kyle & Carmichael?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

C4 saying we will draft Oskar Ainsworth. Draft watchers can you tell us much about him ?

Just going to put a little disclaimer that nothing is guaranteed, but Im judging by all of the extra work going into him this late in the piece (the club meeting with his teachers, friends, coaches) as a sign that things are firming.

 

[goodcop badcop]

That sort of indicates we are looking at trading out pick 33 for a future pick or picks. Leaving us taking the 1st round pick, Ainsworth and Darcy is my guess.

 

[goodcop badcop]

This is my final ever Phantom draft.
In the real thing I image there are lots of pick trades, including by us however for the purposes of this draft I left hypothetical trades out. I took alot of NGA & F/S as final selection because of this when they could likey go as rookies. Carlton go into slight deficit and Suns go into a larger deficit but again this is due to no live trading.
Come draft night i fully expect us to trade out 33 to Blues, Suns or Saints (post Fincher bid).

Spoiler: MOJO'S PHANTOM

1. Eagles Willem Duursma
2. Suns Zeke Uwland (Match)
3. Eagles Cooper Duff-Tytler
4. Suns Dylan Patterson (Match)
5. Tigers Sam Grlj
6. Tigers Sullivan Robey
7. Lions Daniel Annable (Match)
8. Blues Harry Dean (Match)
9. Ess Sam Cumming
10. Ess Dyson Sharp
11. Melb Xavier Taylor
12. Melb Lachy Dovaston
13. Hawks Jacob Farrow
14. GWS Oskar Taylor
15. Eagles Aiden Schubert
16. Dogs Cameron Nairn
17. Blues Josh Lindsay
18. Crows Harley Barker
19. Cats Ollie Greeves
20. Ess Adam Sweid (Match)
21. Freo Latrelle Sumner-Pickett
22. Suns Beau Addinsall (Match)
23. Hawks Jevan Phillipou
24. North Blake Thredgold
25. Swans Max King (Match)
26. North Mitch Marsh
27. Blues Jack Ison (Match)
28. Swans Lachlan Charmichael (Match)
29. Saints Kye Fincher (Match)
30. Ess Noah Hibbins-Hargraves
31. Ess Fred Rodriguez
32. Swans Harry Kyle (Match)
33. Dogs Marcus Krasnadamskis
34. Eagles Talor Byrne
35. GWS Avery Thomas
36. Pies Zac McCarthy (Match)
37. Melb Archie Ludowyke
38. Suns Jai Murray (Match)
39. Tigers Matt LeRay
40. Cats Hunter Holmes
41. Eagle Tylah Williams
42. Lions Leon Kickett
43. Pies Jack Dalton
44. North Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier
45. Freo Sam Alan
46. Crows Zane Peucker
47. Lions Tom Blamires
48. Port Louis Emmett
49. Lions Tyan Prindable
50. Dogs Will Darcy
51. Suns Koby Coulson (Match)
52. Pies Cody Curtin
53. Melb Tom Burton
54. Geelong Jesse Mellor
55. Hawks Harry Scott
56. Swans Riley Onley
57. Saints Liam Hetherton
58. Ess El Achkar

Spoiler: Club by club Haul

Crows Barker, Peucker
Lions Annable, Kickett, Blamires, Prindable
Blues Dean, Lindsay, Ison
Pies McCarthy, Dalton, Curtin
Essendon Cumming, Sharp, Sweid, NHH, Rodriguez, El Achkar
Fremantle Pickett, Alan
GWS O.Taylor, Thomas
Cats Greeves, Holmes, Mellor
Suns Uwland, Patterson, Murray, Coulson
Hawks Farrow, Phillipou, Scott
Demons X.Taylor, Dovaston, Ludowyke, Burton
Roos Thredgold, Marsh, Bob
Power Emmett
Tigers Grlj, Robey, LeRay
ST.K Fincher, Hetherton
Swans King, Charmichael, Kyle, Onley
Eagles Duursma,CDT , Schubert, Bryne, Williams
Dogs Nairn, Krasnadamskis, Darcy

Good job. I think there will be quite a few surprises.

In the big footy phantom I somehow ended up with Dovaston and Oskar Taylor. Even had Thredgold available to me and I even surprised myself that I didn't take him

 

[iambrilliant]

Just going to put a little disclaimer that nothing is guaranteed, but Im judging by all of the extra work going into him this late in the piece (the club meeting with his teachers, friends, coaches) as a sign that things are firming.

Thanks for the info mate . Much appreciated as always

 

[weltschmerz]

Not sure I get the need for another Cooper Hynes

 

[Wizard17]

He played in 2023 so that is included in his 3 years unfortunately.

Probably means that we think that Darcy might get bidded on somewhere in the 30's or very early 40's. Only thing that makes any sense with trading for that pick.

 

[Mojorisin]

Probably means that we think that Darcy might get bidded on somewhere in the 30's or very early 40's. Only thing that makes any sense with trading for that pick.

I think we traded for the pick to give us flexibility on the night and because we can take in 5 picks. Gives us a bit of an upper hand when clubs are tight on picks they can carry into the draft for bid matching purposes.
The two options I see as plausible is 33 to the Suns for Melbourne's F2
Or to the Lions for F2 and FF3.


Edit to add: I'd be extremely shocked if Darcy gets a bid.

 

[King Harold]

That sort of indicates we are looking at trading out pick 33 for a future pick or picks. Leaving us taking the 1st round pick, Ainsworth and Darcy is my guess.

Ainsworth doesn’t seem to feature in any mock drafts, are you saying we use 14 on him ?

 

[Doggy]

Rather use all picks available to us and not trade into next year.

 

[Mojorisin]

Rather use all picks available to us and not trade into next year.

We can't though? Unless we draft Darcy without a bid. If we take a player at 14, 33, and 53 then upgrade JOD and Baker with 70 and 74 we will have no list spaces for Darcy as a Rookie.

 

[Doggy]

We can't though? Unless we draft Darcy without a bid. If we take a player at 14, 33, and 53 then upgrade JOD and Baker with 70 and 74 we will have no list spaces for Darcy as a Rookie.

I'm more talking 14 and 33. Some want to trade them both...

 

[Mojorisin]

I'm more talking 14 and 33. Some want to trade them both...

I'd be more then happy to trade both personally but do acknowledge thats very extreme.

 

[Doggy]

I'd be more then happy to trade both personally but do acknowledge thats very extreme.

That is because there is a fallacy that there is little talent in this draft. We'd probably end up looking stupid if we did that.

Especially when there is no guarantee of Butters at all.

 

[Mojorisin]

That is because there is a fallacy that there is little talent in this draft. We'd probably end up looking stupid if we did that.

Especially when there is no guarantee of Butters at all.

I don't think there is plenty of talent in this draft albeit more low floor/high ceiling types then usual so it will really show who the best recruiters are. Even if Butters doesn’t eventually early indications are very promising for next year's draft if we couldn't find another target to spend the capital on. I also think given the amount of young developing talent we have on our list we could do with picking up a couple 19+ year olds who will be closer to consistent performances and more likely to impact our Bont years should they be required.
It's a Moot point anyway as we will be keeping a presence in the one of the first or second rounds anyway.

 

[Doggy]

I don't think there is plenty of talent in this draft albeit more low floor/high ceiling types then usual so it will really show who the best recruiters are. Even if Butters doesn’t eventually early indications are very promising for next year's draft if we couldn't find another target to spend the capital on. I also think given the amount of young developing talent we have on our list we could do with picking up a couple 19+ year olds who will be closer to consistent performances and more likely to impact our Bont years should they be required.
It's a Moot point anyway as we will be keeping a presence in the one of the first or second rounds anyway.

There is enough there for both 14 and 33

 

[JohnnySteel]

Ainsworth would definitely add to the versatility of our next wave of midfielders. Having both Hynes & Ainsworth being able to rotate between forward/mid & be a goal-kicking threat, gives us a more dynamic look.

 

[iambrilliant]

Ainsworth would definitely add to the versatility of our next wave of midfielders. Having both Hynes & Ainsworth being able to rotate between forward/mid & be a goal-kicking threat, gives us a more dynamic look.

Makes sense trading out the 33 into next year if he’s our man. Not much talk of him on any of the phantoms/power rankings

 

[Dav1d]

How about downgrading and trading into next year, not necessarily for Butters picks but perhaps El Souki or just others in general.

Ainsworth would definitely add to the versatility of our next wave of midfielders. Having both Hynes & Ainsworth being able to rotate between forward/mid & be a goal-kicking threat, gives us a more dynamic look.

Maybe I’m reading the modern trends wrong but the half forwards don’t seem to be as important in today’s game as run off half back and I’d really love for us to be able to get back to that.
There’s a game where we go end to end and kick a goal within, beautiful
It was Lindsay Gilbee
Maybe it’s just my nostalgic bias for half backs though like Gilbee

 

[DiamondDogs8]

Not going to lie, very disappointing if true re Ainsworth. There’s some real talent in our range I hope we don’t piss it up the wall

 

[Mojorisin]

How about downgrading and trading into next year, not necessarily for Butters picks but perhaps El Souki or just others in general.


Maybe I’m reading the modern trends wrong but the half forwards don’t seem to be as important in today’s game as run off half back and I’d really love for us to be able to get back to that.
There’s a game where we go end to end and kick a goal within, beautiful
It was Lindsay Gilbee
Maybe it’s just my nostalgic bias for half backs though like Gilbee

Certainly not how the half forwards used to operate. Now its much more about the guys who can get up and back around the wing whilst still being a threat forward of centre. Like Davidson and the Nairn types

 

[Golden_6]

Not going to lie, very disappointing if true re Ainsworth. There’s some real talent in our range I hope we don’t piss it up the wall

I get the feeling but I’ve lived through enough drafts to not get caught up in picks at this point in their careers. I mean we really haven’t had a genuinely poor draft in close to decade.

We have to trust the recruiters until there’s a reason not to.

 

[Mojorisin]

I get the feeling but I’ve lived through enough drafts to not get caught up in picks at this point in their careers. I mean we really haven’t had a genuinely poor draft in close to decade.

We have to trust the recruiters until there’s a reason not to.

2020 the only one that stands out in recent memory but not many faired well. That draft can be over looked due to Covid.

 

[JohnnySteel]

Also from memory, didnt one of our recruiters Luke Williams

Luke Williams

Age

45

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.7

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

3.4

1star

K

1.6

1star

HB

1.8

2star

M

1.4

2star

T

0.2

3star

, mention Ainsworth was “one to watch” or something along those lines earlier in the year.

So makes sense we’re into him. He has played some big games, kicking 5 goals on a few occasions with 20+ touches & good clearance numbers, showing his impact in both positions.

I can see the appeal.

 

[VitalDread]

If it is Oskar
I'm glad we are building that Western Jets pipeline of talent