2025 Draft Thread

[Doggy]

We were only ever taking 2 players + Darcy so 53 was to help strengthen our position! Be interesting to see where we go with our pick though!

What i mean is that perhaps another team could have strengthened it more. It is effectively 1 place in the second round. Great if we need to nump someone for a specific player but if it was Allen I doubt he goes that early to anyone else.

 

[Bushdid911]

2015 we took Dunkley and Kieran Collins

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back to back. The Dunkley pick was almost universally hated, while the Collins one might have been the happiest this board has ever been. Pretty funny looking back.

 

[Wizard17]

Will be interesting to see if we go tall or small with our next pick considering we are drafting Darcy.

If we are going tall you’d have to think Emmett / Kras, if we are going small I’d think Allen fits what we are looking for. NHH as the forward / mid hybrid could be in the mix.
Would be very early to go with Oskar Ainsworth who we have apparently done plenty of work on but who knows.

Also linked by Twomey to Zane Peucker, a quick small forward/mid from SA

 

[Doggy]

Also linked by Twomey to Zane Peucker, a quick small forward/mid from SA

27 seems a reach

 

[Mofra]

2015 we took Dunkley and Kieran Collins back to back. The Dunkley pick was almost universally hated, while the Collins one might have been the happiest this board has ever been. Pretty funny looking back.

I still remember half the board going into meltdown when we passed on James Seller.

 

[Wizard17]

27 seems a reach

Honestly hard to tell with small forwards these last few drafts because they all tend to go earlier than you think they would.

But I was just adding to the list of players we have been linked to. We seem to have interest in Emmett, Kras, Allen and Peucker from what I can find.

 

[Doggy]

Honestly hard to tell with small forwards these last few drafts because they all tend to go earlier than you think they would.

But I was just adding to the list of players we have been linked to. We seem to have interest in Emmett, Kras, Allen and Peucker from what I can find.

Yes that seems right. If we have all 4 to choose from I'd still go Emmett given his ability to play multiple important positions for us.

 

[Bulldogs85]

 

[bobs head soup]

If a club were to play funny buggers and bid on Darcy well before expected, say 30's, do we still have points to match?

The way the father son rules read on paper, if a bid comes at pick 36 or earlier, we will have to match and go into deficit.

Any bid from 37 onwards can be matched with our next available pick without concern for points

Our list management team will have done their checks because a bid at 36 or earlier would be a bit of a disaster (especially after trading out 53 for f.ck all).

On the other hand, it's the AFL, so the rules may have changed overnight.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

2nd draft pick when every club has their ability to reassess their draft boards and "really like" a player that has slipped is prime opportunity for a club to massively overpay the actual expected output from the draft pick itself.

If any other club offers anything near a F1 in value, even if it's 2027 Tasmania influenced or we give back a future F2 or F3 or whatever, take it an run. It's a weak draft and I don't really give much hope of any player available to us being a good one, but bad list management teams can get sucked in (looking at North massively overpaying for Whitlock in a similar range, or Gold Coast trading a compensation future mid-1st round early teens pick for live pick 27 in 2019).

It also gives us massive flexibility. I'm not even convinced that the player we take is that much better an option than whatever mature-ager we invite to pre-season training, have the opportunity to take a look at, and can sign as an SSP in Feb (even if we don't want to take a mid-season draft pick anyway).

 

[lachy]

I still remember half the board going into meltdown when we passed on James Seller.

Never sen this board go into meltdown Mof, not sure what you are talking about

 

[Doggy]

2nd draft pick when every club has their ability to reassess their draft boards and "really like" a player that has slipped is prime opportunity for a club to massively overpay the actual expected output from the draft pick itself.

If any other club offers anything near a F1 in value, even if it's 2027 Tasmania influenced or we give back a future F2 or F3 or whatever, take it an run. It's a weak draft and I don't really give much hope of any player available to us being a good one, but bad list management teams can get sucked in (looking at North massively overpaying for Whitlock in a similar range, or Gold Coast trading a compensation future mid-1st round early teens pick for live pick 27 in 2019).

It also gives us massive flexibility. I'm not even convinced that the player we take is that much better an option than whatever mature-ager we invite to pre-season training, have the opportunity to take a look at, and can sign as an SSP in Feb (even if we don't want to take a mid-season draft pick anyway).

All well and good, but does not seem like we are trading out. Wouldn't make sense given we traded slightly up as well.

Seems the club wants a tall and is probably down to 3 players, Thredgold, Emmett and Kras

 

[TedDougChris]

And here I was thinking I was one of the most negative Dogs supporters going.

I've been shown up quite badly in the last 12-24 hours.



Clearly I've got to up my game.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Is that our guy bottom right

 

[threenewpadlocks]

All well and good, but does not seem like we are trading out. Wouldn't make sense given we traded slightly up as well.

Seems the club wants a tall and is probably down to 3 players, Thredgold, Emmett and Kras

Fair enough that we might rate a tall we want to take, but I'm not sure sure that the fact we traded up makes it not 'make sense'. We may be able to execute a trade that we wouldn't have been able to with the weaker pick, because that trading up is the tipping point for how that club values their own future first.

By the same logic, it's like saying we would have taken pick 38 to the draft after trading Smith and getting it upgraded from 45, because it "wouldn't make sense" to trade it because we "traded up slightly as well". But obviously 45 ->38 was a tipping/sticking point for Carlton, we wouldn't have gotten Kennedy for 45 but we did get him for 38.

We can go by the same logic for a future draft pick.

In any case I'm not saying trade it out for the sake of trading it out. It's just that teams have overpaid in the past for the players available when the draft turns over for the night, the two examples I gave. We might want a tall but a top 15 future pick would also be nice.

 

[Southern 8]

Butters will go where he wants regardless of the picks a team has.

Yeah aware of that. I’m sure they will go as hard as they can though and usually attract big names. I know Butters dog supporter as kid and from west etc.
A lot of clubs will be trying though and it helps to have assets. Just being a pessimist.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Is that our guy bottom right

I don’t know

 

[Bulldogs85]

Little info about the club

 

[VitalDread]

Comparing Louis vs Marcus

I think Louis is our long term option esp with talks of him of potentially being a key defender

 

[Mofra]

I'm very wary of taking a player with the intention of turning then into something they're not. If we take Emmett or Kras, they need to spend time developing as a ruck.

 

[Bulldogs85]

I'm very wary of taking a player with the intention of turning then into something they're not. If we take Emmett or Kras, they need to spend time developing as a ruck.

I read that some clubs see Emmett as a key defender

 

[BulldogMuscle]

I'm very wary of taking a player with the intention of turning then into something they're not. If we take Emmett or Kras, they need to spend time developing as a ruck.

Typical Bevo style tho, I wouldn't expect anything less.

 

[Mojorisin]

Typical Bevo style tho, I wouldn't expect anything less.

It's not all that uncommon out of juniors though. Alot of teams view Emmett as a defender not just the dogs, he was also meant to spend alot more time there this year if not for injury.

 

[Dav1d]

It's not all that uncommon out of juniors though. Alot of teams view Emmett as a defender not just the dogs, he was also meant to spend alot more time there this year if not for injury.

He plays like a defender as a forward with the way he works his way around his opponent to mark the ball

Didn’t realise how good his endurance was either, top 3 this year.

 

[Beasley]

I’m annoyed we only have the one pick left, like really annoyed.
I like the Carmichael pick up but another pick would have been nice

If we really want to be Sydneys friends we should bid on King next

We have two picks left. Don’t forget 70 which we traded from WC.