He will make it as a mid.Pre draft I made the call that he has to make it as a midfielder or he was going to struggled to find a spot at afl level because of his kicking. I thought he was more speculative than taking the Viking.
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He will make it as a mid.Pre draft I made the call that he has to make it as a midfielder or he was going to struggled to find a spot at afl level because of his kicking. I thought he was more speculative than taking the Viking.
Pre draft I made the call that he has to make it as a midfielder or he was going to struggled to find a spot at afl level because of his kicking. I thought he was more speculative than taking the Viking.
There was a bit of that. I liked the way he used his legs out of congestion in his draft year but the kicking is acceptable as an inside mid but not a modern flanker or outside player. Lockdown defender might be his fallback position if he can strengthen the body and doesn’t transition tot he midfield.Yep I don't see his kicking being good enough to be a half back or wing, but surely if he had genuine midfield ability then he would have primarily been a mid in the juniors. He seems pretty good at winning a ground ball in defensive 50 but I'm not sure about midfield clearances. Maybe with a lot of added muscle he could become more capable in contested situations.
I found the pre draft footage to be very underwhelming. It was mostly "collect ground ball in defensive 50, give hands or hack a sky ball out of defensive 50"
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Billings has kicked 5 early in his career. Not exactly a guarantee is it. He wasn’t playing in the midfield either. I just think Tobie has more scope as a mid due to a being more prepared to contest ground ball and apply pressure around the contest.You are talking about Darcy Wilson I take it. 5 goals in the last game I will take every week.
You are talking about Darcy Wilson I take it. 5 goals in the last game I will take every week.
Billings has kicked 5 early in his career. Not exactly a guarantee is it. He wasn’t playing in the midfield either. I just think Tobie has more scope as a mid due to a being more prepared to contest ground ball and apply pressure around the contest.
Darcy has shown glimpses to become a very good flanker/wing though.
I rate Travaglias handball above lots of our more established players, and that’s an underrated skill in my opinion, especially in the modern high pressure matches. Coupled with a strong contested / loose ball game can result in a very handy player that stands up in big games.
Agree that his kicking is underwhelming, but so is Tauru’s. I think he’s starting from a nice base point…it’s all about the improvement now.
I rate Travaglias handball above lots of our more established players, and that’s an underrated skill in my opinion, especially in the modern high pressure matches. Coupled with a strong contested / loose ball game can result in a very handy player that stands up in big games.
Agree that his kicking is underwhelming, but so is Tauru’s. I think he’s starting from a nice base point…it’s all about the improvement now.
I worry about kids that thin, with small frames as they are not going to fill out or put on a lot of size. As a result they have to excel in a lot of the game as they dont have the size to hold their own. I am not his biggest fan, but at VFL level his handballing in congestion was elite. There is no doubt he knows how to win the ball, he just needs improvement in other parts of his game.
Above all he is a competitor, so hopefully that drives him to become the player we wished for.
You need to watch his VFL games.Billings has kicked 5 early in his career. Not exactly a guarantee is it. He wasn’t playing in the midfield either. I just think Tobie has more scope as a mid due to a being more prepared to contest ground ball and apply pressure around the contest.
Darcy has shown glimpses to become a very good flanker/wing though.
Kade SimpsonI worry about kids that thin, with small frames as they are not going to fill out or put on a lot of size. As a result they have to excel in a lot of the game as they dont have the size to hold their own. I am not his biggest fan, but at VFL level his handballing in congestion was elite. There is no doubt he knows how to win the ball, he just needs improvement in other parts of his game.
Above all he is a competitor, so hopefully that drives him to become the player we wished for.
Travaglia’s hands are better than Wilson. But he doesn’t seem to know how to play midfield. I see more potential in Fischer’s VFL game than Travaglia. Didn’t really want us to draft another half back in Travaglia like Clark and Coffield, wanted Langford or Reid, but now he is our player, I really hope we develop him properly as a mid in the VFL, he just looks lost in the AFL.There was a bit of that. I liked the way he used his legs out of congestion in his draft year but the kicking is acceptable as an inside mid but not a modern flanker or outside player. Lockdown defender might be his fallback position if he can strengthen the body and doesn’t transition tot he midfield.
Certainly not writing him off. Is a better contested player than Wilson at the moment and only one season in. I still feel he is more likely a mid than Wilson is.
Where is this idea that Trav can’t play midfield coming from ?Travaglia’s hands are better than Wilson. But he doesn’t seem to know how to play midfield. I see more potential in Fischer’s VFL game than Travaglia. Didn’t really want us to draft another half back in Travaglia like Clark and Coffield, wanted Langford or Reid, but now he is our player, I really hope we develop him properly as a mid in the VFL, he just looks lost in the AFL.
Where's the idea that he can play midfield from?Where is this idea that Trav can’t play midfield coming from ?
Honestly
Where is this idea that Trav can’t play midfield coming from ?
Honestly
Where's the idea that he can play midfield from?
Watching him play in under 18s, watching him play vfl. Assessing his attributes not just where he’s been named to play.Where's the idea that he can play midfield from?
He hardly played any midfield in the U18s ..... maybe a game or 2 ..... Billings played more games through the midfield in his U18 yearWatching him play in under 18s, watching him play vfl. Assessing his attributes not just where he’s been named to play.
4/5 games as under 18 and he performed well. Most importantly it’s the traits he showed.He hardly played any midfield in the U18s ..... maybe a game or 2 ..... Billings played more games through the midfield in his U18 year
Trav mainly played across Half Back and he definitely played as a defender in the Nat Champs
Kade Simpson
Nate Fyfe
Will day
Bont
Just to name a few
He hardly played any midfield in the U18s ..... maybe a game or 2 ..... Billings played more games through the midfield in his U18 year
Trav mainly played across Half Back and he definitely played as a defender in the Nat Champs
Day, Fyfe and Bont have big frames incl shoulders. Travaglia is leggy, but his upper body is more like Blakey. Simpson was an outside wingman with elite kicking and running, he was the exception rather then the norm.
Travaglia has a long way to go with his kicking, body positioning and movement to become anything more than just another back flanker. He has time to develop and might be the exception, but his kicking and lack of penetration will be what really holds him back.