2025 Draft Thread

[Ads734]

has to be a country in Asia, Africa or Oceania though. hence Tauru not eligible as his father was born in Sweden.

Hawks also missed out on Moraes whose dad is from the renowed Aussie rules powerhouse of Brazil. A bit of karma for stealing Mackenzie perhaps

It is so strange how that is the criteria.

Some bigotry of low expectations if you ask me…

 

[botts]

I think what’s most wild is the guys we’ve picked in the past who would have been in ‘academies’

Riewoldt
Kozi
Tauru
Gresham
Marshall
Savage

Just off the top of my head

Gilbert, hudgston, hayes

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

It is so strange how that is the criteria.

Some bigotry of low expectations if you ask me…

Yeah it's definitely not a criteria you want to scratch the surface of too deeply. There was a white South African kid who was in an NGA recently (can't remember who, maybe even could have been McKenzie?) and everyone was like, how is he an NGA. The subtext being, "but he's not black?"
There's this theory in education circles called deficit teaching, where white teacher teach people of colour worse than they do white students, because they view them as not able to achieve to the same level as white students. Kinda feels like that.

 

[Ads734]

Yeah it's definitely not a criteria you want to scratch the surface of too deeply. There was a white South African kid who was in an NGA recently (can't remember who, maybe even could have been McKenzie?) and everyone was like, how is he an NGA. The subtext being, "but he's not black?"
There's this theory in education circles called deficit teaching, where white teacher teach people of colour worse than they do white students, because they view them as not able to achieve to the same level as white students. Kinda feels like that.

Yea , again soft bigotry of low expectations.

IMO lots of racist undertones.

 

[gringo2011]

Yea , again soft bigotry of low expectations.

IMO lots of racist undertones.

Or it would be racist if you said Africans could join but only certain skin tones count. Traditionally kids from Asian or African backgrounds funnel into soccer or other sports. The OS academies are trying to divert elite athletic kids through our sport.

They are trying to pinch the next Gout Gout and if a couple of Saffies slip through they don't really care. My son had a friend in the academy that had an English mum who was the daughter of a British diplomat based in Africa and got in because she was technically born in Nigeria.

Owens was always likely to play footy with an Aussie dad. The whole thing is a bit of a scam.

 

[Ads734]

Or it would be racist if you said Africans could join but only certain skin tones count. Traditionally kids from Asian or African backgrounds funnel into soccer or other sports. The OS academies are trying to divert elite athletic kids through our sport.

They are trying to pinch the next Gout Gout and if a couple of Saffies slip through they don't really care. My son had a friend in the academy that had an English mum who was the daughter of a British diplomat based in Africa and got in because she was technically born in Nigeria.

Owens was always likely to play footy with an Aussie dad. The whole thing is a bit of a scam.

Completely agree. It’s a very scary system. In addition, indigenous Australians are overepresented in AFL relative to population size.

Same as David Rodan and Sean Burgoyne’s kid, like hodge.

 

[BarkerFan]

wherever we land.. take Jevan Phillipou...

Back from injury now.. 31 touches and 2 goals this weekend
Kicks both feet, is a genuine midfielder of the type we need.. skilled and strong
Looks better than the other mid prospects in this years draft.

And we know he will be dedicated and determined.

 

[akaifu]

wherever we land.. take Jevan Phillipou...

Back from injury now.. 31 touches and 2 goals this weekend
Kicks both feet, is a genuine midfielder of the type we need.. skilled and strong
Looks better than the other mid prospects in this years draft.

And we know he will be dedicated and determined.

All the more reason to trade Marshall. That's currently his range

 

[saintbill]

Was keen on Smillie last year just because we need to replace Steele and Macrae sooner rather than later.
Th Saints strategy has been run with Wilson, Travaglia, NAZ, Hastie, Boxshall etc.
I like a 2027/2028 ( in a perfect world)of Pou and Greeves as our primary inside mids with our runners above running through the mids as well.
He is not pacey but seems a likely ball pig. Kicking is a ???, and we don't want another Dunstan.

Greeves looks like a perfect Steele replacement over time. Greeves, NAS and Pou is a nice blend of different skill sets running through the middle.

 

[seesalswigs44]

Jeez Just watched bits of Jevan Phillipou’s game on the weekend. Looks awesome

 

[mighty_sainters]

Jeez Just watched bits of Jevan Phillipou’s game on the weekend. Looks awesome

1st rounder?

 

[TheJackal]

Notice how far Sam Cumming is moving up the board? Well Jevan is twice the player. Use our first on him for all I care. Get Jevan and sign Mattaes for 10 years.

 

[beside the seaside]

Notice how far Sam Cumming is moving up the board? Well Jevan is twice the player. Use our first on him for all I care. Get Jevan and sign Mattaes for 10 years.

Love the idea of getting the bros together.

 

[TheJackal]

Love the idea of getting the bros together.

It's not just the brother thing though, he's genuinely one of the only players in this draft who I see as having genuine star factor. Sure there are kids there who have promise, but I don't see a bigger ceiling than Jevans.

 

[SaintlyHymns]

Given there are no safe bets in this draft, you take the kid with the highest ceiling and trust the development we have in place.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

It's not just the brother thing though, he's genuinely one of the only players in this draft who I see as having genuine star factor. Sure there are kids there who have promise, but I don't see a bigger ceiling than Jevans.

That's a huge call .....

 

[akaifu]

Does anyone recall times where clubs have actually taken brothers in the open draft? Feels like a pretty uncommon event. Only one I can recall is the Cloke bros but thats pretty much it

 

[The Jack]

Does anyone recall times where clubs have actually taken brothers in the open draft? Feels like a pretty uncommon event. Only one I can recall is the Cloke bros but thats pretty much it

Nicholas Winmar. Same but different.

 

[littlecreatures]

Does anyone recall times where clubs have actually taken brothers in the open draft? Feels like a pretty uncommon event. Only one I can recall is the Cloke bros but thats pretty much it

Raph and Xavier Clarke?

 

[TheJackal]

Does anyone recall times where clubs have actually taken brothers in the open draft? Feels like a pretty uncommon event. Only one I can recall is the Cloke bros but thats pretty much it

Just the last few years, Daicos, Henry, Camporeale, Guthrie, Warner, Hollands, Davey, Coleman, Ashcroft, SOS, Weller, Cordy. There's been a fair few club tied players but it's not unheard of.

 

[akaifu]

Just the last few years, Daicos, Henry, Camporeale, Guthrie, Warner, Hollands, Davey, Coleman, Ashcroft, SOS, Weller, Cordy. There's been a fair few club tied players but it's not unheard of.

I think FS picks are very different to open draft. They get a discount so ofc its worthwhile for them. Henry, Hollands, and Weller were all trades so also different

Guthrie and Warner are good examples though. Warner bros especially gives me hope that we could unite the Phillipous given they're in NSW from WA

 

[stfan]

Nicholas Winmar. Same but different.

Very different as they were not brothers.

 

[The Jack]

Very different as they were not brothers.

Not really. If Nicky Winmar never played for St Kilda I strongly suggest Nicholas would never have been drafted by us.

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

can someone pls tell jevan to chill the f out, be playing for west coast at this rate

 

[TheJackal]

I think FS picks are very different to open draft. They get a discount so ofc its worthwhile for them. Henry, Hollands, and Weller were all trades so also different

Guthrie and Warner are good examples though. Warner bros especially gives me hope that we could unite the Phillipous given they're in NSW from WA

Semantics Al, your example of the Clokes confused your original argument. So they can't be traded, they can't be father son, they can't be academy picks... next you'll argue they can't be brothers... jk

But that's just recently, we've had Wakelins and Clarke's and they were both from interstate, it's not unheard of.