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Looks like some interesting late first picks are there. Wonder if we could split our pick and get Mitch Marsh and Pou 2.0?


I wouldn't unless we really want someone like Dovaston.
 
There is some interesting draft ratings in that edition, I think it will change quite a bit to the actual draft positioning.

I'd be wrapped with either Sam Cummings or Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves if we were lucky enough for either to make it through to us.
 

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I highly doubt anyone pays Draper enough to warrant Band 1 compo. If I'm guessing the top 10 and the end of year finishing possie, I'd go:

Pick 1 (WC): CDT
Pick 2 (GC via trade): Duursma
Pick 3 (GC Academy): Uwland
Pick 4 (Rich): Sharp
Pick 5 (Rich via trade): Lindsay
Pick 6 (Ess): Schubert
Pick 7 (Bris FS): Annable
Pick 8 (GC Academy): Patterson
Pick 9 (Stk): Greeves
Pick 10 (Ess via trade): Grlj

There is so much variation though this year, and I think probably the only year where you can pick for needs in the top 10 because no one seems to be standing out. I just hope we end up with one of Sharp, Greeves or Duursma.
How do GC get enough points to match 2 top 10 picks if they use their 2 top 10 picks to move up to pick 2? Doesnt the new points system make that very hard? Can anyone do the maths to see if it is possible?

Like give an example of what late picks they can get back from WC that provide enough points to match those 2 academy players in the top 10?
 
How do GC get enough points to match 2 top 10 picks if they use their 2 top 10 picks to move up to pick 2? Doesnt the new points system make that very hard? Can anyone do the maths to see if it is possible?

Like give an example of what late picks they can get back from WC that provide enough points to match those 2 academy players in the top 10?
If you just go off the espn rankings the bloke has their 3 kids at 3, 9 and 19. So with the 10% discount will need 3896 points to match. If GC traded 8 and 14 to west coast for 2, 13, 19, 31 and 49 they still only have 2391 points after using pick 2. That on top of their other picks still won’t be enough to match the bids. Would be a horrible trade for west coast though
 
How do GC get enough points to match 2 top 10 picks if they use their 2 top 10 picks to move up to pick 2? Doesnt the new points system make that very hard? Can anyone do the maths to see if it is possible?

Like give an example of what late picks they can get back from WC that provide enough points to match those 2 academy players in the top 10?
It’s such a joke if the can get pick two and still Match three first rounders. The afl will have serious egg on their face if they do that
 
How do GC get enough points to match 2 top 10 picks if they use their 2 top 10 picks to move up to pick 2? Doesnt the new points system make that very hard? Can anyone do the maths to see if it is possible?

Like give an example of what late picks they can get back from WC that provide enough points to match those 2 academy players in the top 10?
Buggered if I know, but if they really want pick 2, I'm sure they'll find a way. They've got the pick tied to Collingwood, which they could split up for second and thirds, and one would assume WC would be giving back some points. They can also trade from next year, and go in to deficits.

That being said, you raise a good point, and I forgot about the points change. I guess you also have to ask yourself, if they're picking up 3 first, why bother picking up anyone else? They've got a bunch of top end picks already running around in the twos, and you would assume if you draft a highly rated, non-academy player and then don't play them, they'll ask for a trade pretty quick. GC could do what Oklahoma City did in the NBA, and just keep pushing back and improving future picks, so that they've always got currency and always got internal growth. It definitely worked for the Thunder.

Also just as an aside, and I apologise in advance for the rant, if GC did trade with WC and took 4 first rounders to this draft, and we took 1, they'd have taken as many first rounders in 2025 (a year they finished in the finals) as we have taken in the last 3 years (23, 24 25), with the majority of those picks (let's say 2, 3, 9 and 18) being higher than the majority of our picks (let's say 18, 8, 10 & 9). Furthermore, points value wise, there is a difference of roughly pick 5 between our picks, and those that GC would take just this year alone, so they've effectively taken more picks in one year than we've taken in 3. That's messed up.
 
There is some interesting draft ratings in that edition, I think it will change quite a bit to the actual draft positioning.

I'd be wrapped with either Sam Cummings or Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves if we were lucky enough for either to make it through to us.
Cummings would be a good get, as would Lindsay if they went that way, as would Pou2.

To me it looks like the top 3-5 are comparatively poor but the 5-15 range is line-ball with most years. We'll get a good player so there's no stress, but of course the academy selections mean we're still going backwards compared to those clubs.
 
Cummings would be a good get, as would Lindsay if they went that way, as would Pou2.

To me it looks like the top 3-5 are comparatively poor but the 5-15 range is line-ball with most years. We'll get a good player so there's no stress, but of course the academy selections mean we're still going backwards compared to those clubs.
I think between the 5-12ish range this year, the more further back we are the more value we'll get from our pick - its super even. Which is why the junk wins won't matter as much imo
 
It’s such a joke if the can get pick two and still Match three first rounders. The afl will have serious egg on their face if they do that
What do you mean , the AFl don’t give a flying F##?ck. They’re so incompetent that after all the complaining rotting etc they are once again going to double down because they’re are so stuck up their own arses.
 
Reading a report on the U16s champs and I have a couple of concerns.

Firstly, did Tobie father a child when he was 2 years of age?

Secondly, how the hell do we get Tobie to 100 games in time to draft Riley as a Father/Son?


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Reading a report on the U16s champs and I have a couple of concerns.

Firstly, did Tobie father a child when he was 2 years of age?

Secondly, how the hell do we get Tobie to 100 games in time to draft Riley as a Father/Son?


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We’ve really accelerated our father sons program in a short space of time 🤣
 
It's interesting (and disappointing) to hear that his year's crop of mids are underwhelming. With that said, it's not a bad time for us to be looking at a tall forward. King is half way through the typical AFL career span and he has only managed 83 games. I think we'd be lucky to get another 60 out of him at this point and he is probably going to be diminished from all of the injuries when/if he does get on the field.

I was extremely disappointed that we missed out on the top mids last year (though was happy with Tauru who seemed like a slider in terms of talent) but maybe we should grab a forward with our first pick, then grab Jevan with a second rounder (from Nas/Marshall trades) and take Fincher with junk picks.
 
It's interesting (and disappointing) to hear that his year's crop of mids are underwhelming. With that said, it's not a bad time for us to be looking at a tall forward. King is half way through the typical AFL career span and he has only managed 83 games. I think we'd be lucky to get another 60 out of him at this point and he is probably going to be diminished from all of the injuries when/if he does get on the field.

I was extremely disappointed that we missed out on the top mids last year (though was happy with Tauru who seemed like a slider in terms of talent) but maybe we should grab a forward with our first pick, then grab Jevan with a second rounder (from Nas/Marshall trades) and take Fincher with junk picks.
Can guarantee our first pick will be best available - and it doesnt seem like theres a genuine key forward around our current range. Dalrymple is strong on BPA not only for the early picks but the entire draft. Pretty sure he said somewhere that you fill needs via trade
 
It's interesting (and disappointing) to hear that his year's crop of mids are underwhelming. With that said, it's not a bad time for us to be looking at a tall forward. King is half way through the typical AFL career span and he has only managed 83 games. I think we'd be lucky to get another 60 out of him at this point and he is probably going to be diminished from all of the injuries when/if he does get on the field.

I was extremely disappointed that we missed out on the top mids last year (though was happy with Tauru who seemed like a slider in terms of talent) but maybe we should grab a forward with our first pick, then grab Jevan with a second rounder (from Nas/Marshall trades) and take Fincher with junk picks.
For the mids around our pick it'll be roughly same quality as last year. It's a very average top 5, but since we won't have access anyway then WGAF.
 
It's interesting (and disappointing) to hear that his year's crop of mids are underwhelming. With that said, it's not a bad time for us to be looking at a tall forward. King is half way through the typical AFL career span and he has only managed 83 games. I think we'd be lucky to get another 60 out of him at this point and he is probably going to be diminished from all of the injuries when/if he does get on the field.

I was extremely disappointed that we missed out on the top mids last year (though was happy with Tauru who seemed like a slider in terms of talent) but maybe we should grab a forward with our first pick, then grab Jevan with a second rounder (from Nas/Marshall trades) and take Fincher with junk picks.
Boxman and Hugo will be better than most higher picked mids . Mark my words.
 
For the mids around our pick it'll be roughly same quality as last year. It's a very average top 5, but since we won't have access anyway then WGAF.
Hopefully one of Sharp, Duursma, Cumming or Greeves is available. Any one of them would be a welcome addition to our growing young core of mids. I still think we need two more high quality full timers to go with what is looking like a really well-rounded group of outsider runners and flankers
 

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Final champs game done

Fincher with another 20 disposals off half back. Looked more damaging today with his kicking which was nice - bit off a couple of corridor kicks

Greeves with 24 disposals, 4 clearances
Grlj with 17 disposals and some nice Butters-like moments with his dash
 
Kye Fincher had a very good game against Vic Country - 20 disposals incl 17 kicks, 8 marks and he also got some some midfield time with 2 clearances. His metres gained most in game and were well in front of Durrsma, at 562 metres definitely one of Vic Metro's better players.

A small forward who really impressed in the game was Talor Byrne, he has a bit of Dylan Moore/Jamie Elliott/Jack Higgins about him. Nuggety little goer basically.
 
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Kye Fincher had a very good game against Vic Country - 20 disposals incl 17 kicks, 8 marks and he also got some some midfield time with 2 clearances. His metres gained most in game and were well in front of Durrsma, at 562 metres definitely one of Vic Metro's better players.

A small forward who really impressed in the game was Talor Byrne, he has a bit of Dylan Moore/Jamie Elliott/Jack Higgins about him. Nuggety little goer basically.
He didn't play midfield - he just played as high half back off the back of stoppages

Most of his metres gained came from kick-ins

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He didn't play midfield - he just played as high half back off the back of stoppages

Most of his metres gained came from kick-ins

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Fair enough I havent watched the game Ive only seen the highlights as the full replay is not up yet. If you have watched it why not add some content?

I will say Ollie Greeves lack of pace worries me, he is a man child in size compared to the other kids and I dont know how his game will translate to the AFL.
 
One of Ollie Greeves best qualities is his consistency; there's very little difference between his best and worst performance. This was not one of his best, but he still found plenty of the footy and was influential at stoppage, winning a high % of contested footy and a number of clearances. The main issue was his kicking, which had been very good over recent weeks but regressed a little here, with Ollie biting off overly difficult options at times and getting a little lazy with his technique.

Still, overall a strong Champs campaign for Greeves who was named a deserving winner of the Vic Metro MVP award for the carnival.

 
Fair enough I havent watched the game Ive only seen the highlights as the full replay is not up yet. If you have watched it why not add some content?

I will say Ollie Greeves lack of pace worries me, he is a man child in size compared to the other kids and I dont know how his game will translate to the AFL.
I think Greeves has a decent transition game which helps him in the modern game - he's more a Tom Green than a Patrick Cripps. But I am also not his biggest fan even tho a lot of Saints fans have been singing his praises for a while now. Lots seem to say his kicking is very good but I don't see it, a lot of his 20m kicks tend to fall short rather than hitting the chest which is worrying. Might just end up a Will Setterfield-type - fans of him would say Green which is fair enough

I'd honestly prefer Jevan over him - he's the perfect prototype modern-day midfielder. Grlj, Rodriguez, Cumming also. They all have good skills and are prominent in offensive transition. They're the types of players that can join the likes of Richards/Daicos/Anderson/Miller/Butters/Brayshaw at the top of the game

Midfields like Carlton's; Cripps/Hewett/Cerra are being left behind. Midfields like Dunkley, Neale, McCluggage, Ashcroft, Bailey, Rayner remain at the top
 

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