Analysis 2025 Draft watch

[Aphrodite]

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

He’s played midfield mostly and consistently racked up 20+ touches and big tackle numbers. Often takes the inside 50 kick and is a great decision maker and beautiful kick of the footy.

I like that he consistently wins his own footy, has clean hands and makes quick decisions. All traits that will serve him well playing forward of the footy.

This last game showed off his marking skills which if he can continue to display for the remainder of the season, makes him a top 20 pick in this draft for mine.

How would you describe his speed & run C2K, is he that quick ball carrier/movement type?

 

[ray8182]

How would you describe his speed & run C2K, is he that quick ball carrier/movement type?

My impression is that Cumming looks more like the inside midfielder with a good burst of speed.
I don’t really see him as a ball carrier. I like him, has a lot going for him, and if l was say stkilda would be having a close look at him at there pick. If Carlton wants run and carry probably not quite the right type.

 

[djfly]

What about Jack Dalton, he goes to school with my son at Xavier, top kid, Xavier Captain, constantly named in the best players for Vic Metro, a little small but super smooth skills.

 

[Coona Blues]

What about Jack Dalton, he goes to school with my son at Xavier, top kid, Xavier Captain, constantly named in the best players for Vic Metro, a little small but super smooth skills.

His disposal was questioned by Rookie Me. More an accumulator, than modern burst type, but did look good last game. Doubt he suits us.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

How would you describe his speed & run C2K, is he that quick ball carrier/movement type?

No real evidence that he's the type to take a few bounces with the footy necessarily. But he does make a habit of hitting stoppages on the move, reacts quickly to the bounce of the ball and good acceleration, which enables him to burst out of a stoppage.

He uses his lack of height (174cm) to his advantage, being able to change direction quickly, pick up ground balls at speed and draw free kicks for high contact. His stocky frame makes him hard to tackle, while his strength and intensity ensure he consistently sticks his tackles on bigger opponents.

I love that defensive actions are not an afterthought for him; tackles, shepherds and smothers are in his DNA. Check out this moment when he takes the ball cleanly off a smother and immediately is ready to baulk an opponent before giving off the handball.

I think he plays similarly to Fogarty for us, except he has a much more penetrating kick and looks a stronger contested and overhead mark, the two main criticisms of Fog. This makes him viable as a 80% forward, 20% midfield option at the next level IMO.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Would like to see Byrne on our list, as you say the non negotiable defensive stuff is there, as is the creativity too, if he's not kicking goals he is impacting with score involvements

 

[FitzroyBlueBagger]

No real evidence that he's the type to take a few bounces with the footy necessarily. But he does make a habit of hitting stoppages on the move, reacts quickly to the bounce of the ball and good acceleration, which enables him to burst out of a stoppage.

He uses his lack of height (174cm) to his advantage, being able to change direction quickly, pick up ground balls at speed and draw free kicks for high contact. His stocky frame makes him hard to tackle, while his strength and intensity ensure he consistently sticks his tackles on bigger opponents.

I love that defensive actions are not an afterthought for him; tackles, shepherds and smothers are in his DNA. Check out this moment when he takes the ball cleanly off a smother and immediately is ready to baulk an opponent before giving off the handball.

I think he plays similarly to Fogarty for us, except he has a much more penetrating kick and looks a stronger contested and overhead mark, the two main criticisms of Fog. This makes him viable as a 80% forward, 20% midfield option at the next level IMO.

Thanks for the feedback C2K, sounds like he possesses many of the quality but basic skills and traits you’d like in a player…
I’ve got to see very little of him, but watching you’re clip he reminds me of Kieren Jack form Sydney in the way he plays, a great little fwd/mid player in his playing days…

 

[Wickzki]

Harry Dean moving up into 7th place on the Fox Footy draft rankings.

What's the lowest pick we'd need to cover that one with the new system?

 

[BlackGoanna]

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Harry Dean moving up into 7th place on the Fox Footy draft rankings.

What's the lowest pick we'd need to cover that one with the new system?

 

[BlackGoanna]

Looks like we might have to downgrade the TDK pick for additional points to make sure we cover off Dean and potentially Ison. We would likely have change in this scenario. If we leave the TDK pick on the table and it gets swallowed up by a Dean bid we will have a very lean draft. Not ideal given our needs across multiple positions.

The situation will change of course if we secure additional picks through trades, but we would be better serviced to use that collateral on established players.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

So is it possibility we can use the pick for TDK to get a Lindsay or Grlj and also get Dean and Ison or will that pick be used on just getting Dean?

 

[Accidental genius]

Ison a 190 cm mid/forward will be drafted this year.

Cody in 2026.

Along with jagga our near future mid mix looks good.

 

[dangertroy]

So is it possibility we can use the pick for TDK to get a Lindsay or Grlj and also get Dean and Ison or will that pick be used on just getting Dean?

If our compo pick is around 9, then it’ll get pushed out by at least 3 picks due to the Brisbane/gc academy bids. If Dean is in the top 10, then the pick will get swallowed up.

We could try and get ahead of it, but we would need extra points to move up, and then even more points to pay for Dean and Ison. If we move it back, we can probably get enough points to cover them, but Brisbane and GC will be trying to do that too, so there will be competition for pick trades. Will be interesting to see how clubs value picks in a weaker draft with the new point system.

We could use the pick to trade for player and a later pick. We could look to move out our first next year as well, bearing in mind we will need points for Cody. We could move more players on to bring in more draft capital.

Lots of scenarios - we will have to be pretty busy during the trade period.

 

[Stamos]

Harry Dean moving up into 7th place on the Fox Footy draft rankings.

What's the lowest pick we'd need to cover that one with the new system?

Do you mean in addition to the 2 picks we already hold?

We would need 1389 points to match a bid at 7.
We're currently holding 522 points (picks 35 & 43). Assuming those picks stay the same (they won't) we would need pick 17 to match.

 

[Wickzki]

Do you mean in addition to the 2 picks we already hold?

We would need 1389 points to match a bid at 7.
We're currently holding 522 points (picks 35 & 43). Assuming those picks stay the same (they won't) we would need pick 17 to match.

Yeah. So BlackGoanna is pretty much on the money which is what I was asking. We need to effectively trade down for points with the TDK compo or find another way to end up with additional picks elsewhere.

The question then becomes: would a deficit impact our ability to add Cody Walker next year?

 

[Stamos]

Yeah. So BlackGoanna is pretty much on the money which is what I was asking. We need to effectively trade down for points with the TDK compo or find another way to end up with additional picks elsewhere.

The question then becomes: would a deficit impact our ability to add Cody Walker next year?

Yes.
A deficit will impact our matching Cody, but probably not much.

My guess is our preferred option would be to trade the TDK compo for a player/players with picks coming back.
Say a targeted player to shift #8ish down to a mid to late teens pick. Or down to a 2nd rounder.
And then trade some other player/s out for later picks (Gov for a 3rd?)

 

[Yubby]

Can't we trade 2027 first now that we can trade 2 years in advance?

 

[Blue__Balls]

Can't we trade 2027 first now that we can trade 2 years in advance?

Yes, but how the market values those picks so far in advance is a big unknown.

A lot can change in two years, so it's harder for clubs to forecast where the pick might actually fall. And there's less clarity on the draft cohort so early as well, so you're less likely to see clubs eyeballing a certain pick range for a particular player or type of player.

 

[Wickzki]

Can't we trade 2027 first now that we can trade 2 years in advance?

Yes but it's supposed to be Tassies first draft and that's still up in the air and awaiting clarifaction. Once that's sorted and the AFL announce their official draft regulations for that draft clubs will be able to understand the pick values. If Tassie get every other pick in the first round a pick 10 could be pick 19/20 (plus whatever academy and father-son bids come in)

Hence why I'm trying to work out the best way to get Harry Dean and Cody Walker without considering that draft into it

 

[Bluebag13]

Yes but it's supposed to be Tassies first draft and that's still up in the air and awaiting clarifaction. Once that's sorted and the AFL announce their official draft regulations for that draft clubs will be able to understand the pick values. If Tassie get every other pick in the first round a pick 10 could be pick 19/20 (plus whatever academy and father-son bids come in)

Hence why I'm trying to work out the best way to get Harry Dean and Cody Walker without considering that draft into it

Side note - It's pretty bloody ridiculous that we have entered into an overlap now of future trading and Tasmania's first draft with no guidance from the AFL. Honestly run by amateurs the AFL, the constant shifting right at the death with so many examples must drive the clubs insane

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Side note - It's pretty bloody ridiculous that we have entered into an overlap now of future trading and Tasmania's first draft with no guidance from the AFL. Honestly run by amateurs the AFL, the constant shifting right at the death with so many examples must drive the clubs insane

I can't find any confirmation that Tassie is even playing a full VFL season in 2026.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Wonder if something like this would be something we'd look at

TDK pick + 2026 Carlton 1st

For

Essendon 2025 1st + 2025 2nd + 2026 2nd

Josh Lindsay - Ess 1st
Harry Dean - Ess 2nd + Blues 2nd
Jack Ison - Blues 3rd
Mingara Clarke - Rookie
Jade Gresham

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Jade Gresham

Age

28

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

- Rookie

Go into 2026 with two 2nds for Cody bid (will need more but it's a start)

Doesn't leave much for us to use on trades unless we trade out some other names to clear space and get more picks.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

 

[Bluebag13]

Wonder if something like this would be something we'd look at

TDK pick + 2026 Carlton 1st

For

Essendon 2025 1st + 2025 2nd + 2026 2nd

Josh Lindsay - Ess 1st
Harry Dean - Ess 2nd + Blues 2nd
Jack Ison - Blues 3rd
Mingara Clarke - Rookie
Jade Gresham - Rookie

Go into 2026 with two 2nds for Cody bid (will need more but it's a start)

Doesn't leave much for us to use on trades unless we trade out some other names to clear space and get more picks.

I don't mind this.
I would guess we are going to trade 1 or 2 players that have 2nd round 3rd round value this year.
To then use for trades with other clubs

 

[DangerousD]

Yes.
A deficit will impact our matching Cody, but probably not much.

My guess is our preferred option would be to trade the TDK compo for a player/players with picks coming back.
Say a targeted player to shift #8ish down to a mid to late teens pick. Or down to a 2nd rounder.
And then trade some other player/s out for later picks (Gov for a 3rd?)

Makes sense, any names on ooc lists you like or would you expect something to come up at trade time?