Analysis 2025 Draft watch

[Aphrodite]

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Poor Callum Twomey must be shattered tonight that Ison wasn’t bid on in the first round

And sweide was

 

[carlton_99]

I just remembered we traded with North (feels like it happened 3 months ago). Maybe they won't bid... Would still leave Dogs regardless but it could be something

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Hope we don’t take Murray, rather the best available kid.

I'd take Murray if it means getting another F2 as well

 

[Blue Ratts]

I was only banking in Dean and Ison, could be another in play now, purely depends on if others bid on Ison beforehand.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I just remembered we traded with North (feels like it happened 3 months ago). Maybe they won't bid... Would still leave Dogs regardless but it could be something

The deal for Pick 11 would have included a wink/nudge no bidding on our boys clause.

 

[Jimmae]

I’d rather a Ludowyke than a Greeves. But what would I know.

Me too. Purely from a list point of view. We would have gotten a KPD, a KPF and big bodied mid with our three picks.

Greeves would be a good pick up as well

I think Archie Ludowyke is worth a punt. We lost two key forwards, so adding one should be a priority if he is there. One genuine key forward on a list is crazy stuff.

Completely respect the logic behind this, and like the way he plays, but you need to go back and watch what Greeves does as a footballer, the answer being: everything but tear down the wing like an Olympic sprinter, and he's still got acceleration in his game, especially if he's got someone to push off from. Sort of resembles TDK's stoppage capability with more agility but 10 cms and 10 kgs conceded, which is part of why he is sliding.

He's in all phases of play, and he always knows exactly what to do. You can drop him at full forward, you can put him in at the centre bounce, you can have him take a kick out, and he manages and controls the game while having great hands, a great read in the air, in the contest, and on the ground, and near elite disposal. I think at worst he plays like Darcy Fogarty, and sooner.

You could drop him into our forward group next year and he could help hold down the key forward rotation if Kemp isn't right, or Moir isn't firing, or we want to go a different direction with the ruck unit. Then he can step in and relieve Cripps for a few minutes, especially with the 5-player bench.

And in an elite program, he could advance into becoming Cripps' replacement, or something even greater due to his ability at either end. I'm stunned Geelong overlooked him, and I think we have the right high performance staff and depth chart to give him the right kind of opportunity.

If the character and psychology of the guy is all good, he's well worth the punt. There's still such a run of talls if we want to dabble after that and securing Ison (perhaps even before).

After Ludowyke - and outside of academy prospects - there's Emmett, Heatherton, Curtin, Murray, Onley (if you want to get creative and turn him into a KPD). Away from that you've got mids and small forwards Rodriguez, Hibbens-Hargreaves, Kickett, Nairn, Walley, Oudshoorn-Bennier, Byrne, and Scott.

If we got to make a pick at 28..
..38 and 44 cover a bid at 29.

Even without 28 we can cover pick 27 with the other picks.

 

[carlton_99]

The deal for Pick 11 would have included a wink/nudge no bidding on our boys clause.

I wonder if those expire at the end of Night 1

 

[teddy-hopkins]

He said he should be the #1 pick this year.

fwiw, I don't mind that!

I think Smiley nominated himself as #1 last year too.

Obviously most kids - in the back of their mind - would be backing themselves to be the best player in the draft. These are super confident kids. But to actually say it openly is pretty dumb as, rightly or wrongly, it attracts a lot of negativity.

The goal is to get yourself drafted as high as possible so this at least indicates a level of stupidity in my view.

 

[ctwenty1]

After what WC did? Not even SOS would have bid on Dean at #3.

SOS is the least of our worries.

WC bid on Dean at 3 as that’s where they rated him.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Aside from the wink wink, I don't see norf bidding with the first pick of the second night,, they'll be falling for an option right now

 

[Blue Ratts]

The deal for Pick 11 would have included a wink/nudge no bidding on our boys clause.

You'd like to think so, but there are some heroes in the pack.

 

[carlton_99]

Aside from the wink wink, I don't see norf bidding with the first pick of the second night,, they'll be falling for an option right now

Yeh Dogs still the main worry imo. Maybe Power can sweet talk Power for us

 

[JK61]

I'd take Murray if it means getting another F2 as well

If we could trade 28 for a F2 and a pick at say 50, we would have the points to match Ison and get at worst a pick in the mid 50’s. The later Ison goes the better the next pick. This is something I hope they consider.

 

[Michael Jezz]

When asked who should go no. 1 he said himself

I will bet Jevan Phillipou does not pass Graham Wright's Figjam Filter

 

[AlecDuncan]

So what did WC achieve by bidding on Dean?

No, I don’t believe they thought he was the third best player in the draft. This was supposed to be a tactic of some kind.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

So what did WC achieve by bidding on Dean?

No, I don’t believe they thought he was the third best player in the draft. This was supposed to be a tactic of some kind.

Long term it may help us more than hinder us if the AFL see it as the system working

 

[ctwenty1]

Aside from the wink wink, I don't see norf bidding with the first pick of the second night,, they'll be falling for an option right now

The only way there is a bid there (or at dogs) is if they trade the pick to someone else

 

[ctwenty1]

Long term it may help us more than hinder us if the AFL see it as the system working

Yeah agree

We gave up two first rounders for a pick 3. That’s a significant price

 

[ctwenty1]

If we could trade 28 for a F2 and a pick at say 50, we would have the points to match Ison and get at worst a pick in the mid 50’s. The later Ison goes the better the next pick. This is something I hope they consider.

Depends who they have at that pick and whose f2 they may get.

 

[gandaal]

Taking all the emotion out if it, I still don't understand what West Coast did today with their bidding. If their aim was to get Beau Addinsall off the Gold Coast why didn't they bid on Dylan Patterson? Thats around 400-500 points that GC didn't have to find. Why did they bid on Dean? It resulted in our first two picks getting used by North and Essendon instead of being absorbed into a bid, which in turn meant their third pick lost about 100 points in value. With back to back bids that around 200 points in value that Gold Coast didn't have to match

They must be really stupid. It would explain their list management decisions lately.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Taking all the emotion out if it, I still don't understand what West Coast did today with their bidding. If their aim was to get Beau Addinsall off the Gold Coast why didn't they bin on Dylan Patterson? Thats around 400-500 points that GC didn't have to find. Why did they bid on Dean? It resulted in our first two picks getting used by North and Essendon instead of being absorbed into a bid, which in turn meant their third pick lost about 100 points in value. With back to back bids that around 200 points in value that Gold Coast didn't have to match

They must be really stupid. It would explain their list management decisions lately.

Simple answer is they're incompetent idiots.

 

[teddy-hopkins]

Completely respect the logic behind this, and like the way he plays, but you need to go back and watch what Greeves does as a footballer, the answer being: everything but tear down the wing like an Olympic sprinter, and he's still got acceleration in his game, especially if he's got someone to push off from. Sort of resembles TDK's stoppage capability with more agility but 10 cms and 10 kgs conceded, which is part of why he is sliding.

He's in all phases of play, and he always knows exactly what to do. You can drop him at full forward, you can put him in at the centre bounce, you can have him take a kick out, and he manages and controls the game while having great hands, a great read in the air, in the contest, and on the ground, and near elite disposal. I think at worst he plays like Darcy Fogarty, and sooner.

You could drop him into our forward group next year and he could help hold down the key forward rotation if Kemp isn't right, or Moir isn't firing, or we want to go a different direction with the ruck unit. Then he can step in and relieve Cripps for a few minutes, especially with the 5-player bench.

And in an elite program, he could advance into becoming Cripps' replacement, or something even greater due to his ability at either end. I'm stunned Geelong overlooked him, and I think we have the right high performance staff and depth chart to give him the right kind of opportunity.

If the character and psychology of the guy is all good, he's well worth the punt. There's still such a run of talls if we want to dabble after that and securing Ison (perhaps even before).

After Ludowyke - and outside of academy prospects - there's Emmett, Heatherton, Curtin, Murray, Onley (if you want to get creative and turn him into a KPD). Away from that you've got mids and small forwards Rodriguez, Hibbens-Hargreaves, Kickett, Nairn, Walley, Oudshoorn-Bennier, Byrne, and Scott.


Even without 28 we can cover pick 27 with the other picks.

Greeves just doesn't have the acceleration. Nothing like Darcy Fogarty.

Good solid footballer though. Certainly body-wise looks ready to play AFL.

I suspect we take a taller guy though.

 

[gandaal]

So what did WC achieve by bidding on Dean?

No, I don’t believe they thought he was the third best player in the draft. This was supposed to be a tactic of some kind.

I think they legitimately did it just to get us back for Chesser. Otherwise it makes no sense because it actually hurt their draft hand.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Don’t see Ison getting past the Dogs. (He glides across the ground like the Bont after all)

Phillipou or Ludowyke would be an awesome outcome.

 

[Premiership Quarter]

You'd think so with the 10% discount?

Not quite unfortunately