Analysis 2025 Draft watch

[Aphrodite]

 

[HereComesJuddy]

After watching the champs I've come to the following conclusions:

• Harry Dean is a top 10 talent (I'm hoping for the usual F/S slide).
• Josh Lindsay is the best player in the open pool that fills a list need. I have him in my top 5 overall.
• Cody has cemented himself as one of the top 2 prospects for next years draft.
• Ison is the only NGA product that belongs on the list.

If I were Austin, I'd be packaging the TDK compo pick (likely around pick 9 to 11, after matched bids and FA compensation) and the 2026 1st for Lindsay + change for draft points.

I like Lindsay but trading say pick 10 this year than putting forward our F1 to move up 3 or 4 places is madness sorry to say.

If we were a top 8 side on the up, yeah I could get behind this type of move, but we are currently 12th and have been beaten by both the Roos and Tigers this year that we know are going to start to move up the ladder shortly.

We need a multitude of talented youth coming through the door and removing a F1 screams desperation to me. Especially with the likelihood of CW looking to be a top 3 pick next year.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I like Lindsay but trading say pick 10 this year than putting forward our F1 to move up 3 or 4 places is madness sorry to say.

If we were a top 8 side on the up, yeah I could get behind this type of move, but we are currently 12th and have been beaten by both the Roos and Tigers this year that we know are going to start to move up the ladder shortly.

We need a multitude of talented youth coming through the door and removing a F1 screams desperation to me. Especially with the likelihood of CW looking to be a top 3 pick next year.

Guess it just depends on where you believe the list is. Some including myself see this year as more of an aberration than a showing of where we're really at, others see this season as a true reflection of where the list is at.

That's obviously going to change how some people view our off season strategy.

Lindsay, Dean, Ison and a couple of cheap trades and i'd be extremely bullish on our list. The small forward issue remaining the final piece of the puzzle for me. Just can't see us filling that void with our current assets.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Guess it just depends on where you believe the list is. Some including myself see this year as more of an aberration than a showing of where we're really at, others see this season as a true reflection of where the list is at.

That's obviously going to change how some people view our off season strategy.

Lindsay, Dean, Ison and a couple of cheap trades and i'd be extremely bullish on our list. The small forward issue remaining the final piece of the puzzle for me. Just can't see us filling that void with our current assets.

You’re right indeed.

If we keep 90% of our list after this off season, I don’t see us as a premiership threat.

Until we make our midfield more dynamic and fix our forward line (which I know you’ve had issues with) the problems still remain. Yes we have had injuries like all clubs do and we will again next year.

Lindsay is a great kick and no doubt a very good player but I’d be pretty pissed off if we traded some of our picks to move up to take a HBF (yes I know he may transition to a midfield role in time, but not anytime soon).

If we are contemplating moving up in the draft, it really needs to be for a player similar to Jagga to come in and change up our midfield or a dynamic forward type. Our backline is the least of our concern and I’d expect Jagga to spend some time back next year. Lindsay for sure if he is at our pick, but putting up a F1 to move up a few spots seems crazy imo

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

On today's effort Dean could very well be top 10 material I suspect. We're probably going to struggle to pay for him let alone add someone like Lindsay unfortunately.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

On today's effort Dean could very well be top 10 material I suspect. We're probably going to struggle to pay for him let alone add someone like Lindsay unfortunately.

Agree. Using a F1 to move up to grab Lindsay and then what? Dean will wipe plenty of this year’s picks and then some. Can’t trade away all our future picks.

Only way something like that works is to trade a top tier player or 2 and most wouldn’t consider it.

Can’t get Lindsay, Dean, Ison, Gresham without losing a quality player imo

 

[Stamos]

lt is quite possible we do something similar to last year letting Kennedy & Owies go, think there are number of players on our list we may do the same to continue to bring in young talent.

Yeah, but we’re going to need more for Dean (say another 2nd), and maybe ISON. Don’t think we’re going to be able to spend that capital on moving up at the top.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Our only hope for Lindsay is that he's played half back most of this year and that might lower his draft stocks a touch.

Think Richmond would be absolutely idiotic to pass on him though.

 

[JJBagger]

I know this doesn’t really affect us, but what has gone on with Tom McGuane? Was being touted as a mid-first round pick at the end of last year. His national champs were awful

 

[Juice030103]

I know this doesn’t really affect us, but what has gone on with Tom McGuane? Was being touted as a mid-first round pick at the end of last year. His national champs were awful

Just gets a lot of it but does nothing with

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I know this doesn’t really affect us, but what has gone on with Tom McGuane? Was being touted as a mid-first round pick at the end of last year. His national champs were awful

Nothing happened this year. Was never going mid first round to anyone with half a brain unless he had a rapid growth spurt or discovered explosive pace out of the blue this year. Got a lot of hype by Pies fans because he racks up touches but he lacks the damage in his disposal and strength in the contest you need to be an AFL level mid imo.

This was my take on him last year. Aside from the Pies impending list collapse

 

[Coona Blues]

Can we get Byrne with a later pick

Think would be in the mix as a legitimate candidate.

 

[Flaggers22]

I like Lindsay but trading say pick 10 this year than putting forward our F1 to move up 3 or 4 places is madness sorry to say.

If we were a top 8 side on the up, yeah I could get behind this type of move, but we are currently 12th and have been beaten by both the Roos and Tigers this year that we know are going to start to move up the ladder shortly.

We need a multitude of talented youth coming through the door and removing a F1 screams desperation to me. Especially with the likelihood of CW looking to be a top 3 pick next year.

The TDK compo pick is likely to be around the 10 or 11 mark, after matched bids and FA compensation picks. I can't see Lindsay falling past pick 3 tbh (his skillset is in vogue right now). Our 2026 1st has to be moved, otherwise it'll be swallowed by a bid next year. It's just a question of whether we move it on this year, or next year. As it stands we have about 500 points on the AFL draft index, which means we'd be 700 points short if a bid were to come at 10 for Dean, so if we got Lindsay and some points for Dean and Ison, maybe even Cody then I think it's a win.

I rate the list, so I don't see it as a huge risk. I still believe that we can contend with the right list moves and personnel changes, so I'd rather they target high quality kids that can contribute from day 1.

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

if we get to make the pick names that interest me, assuming lindsay is gone: grjl, dovaston, Hibbons-Hargraves and Cumming.

 

[bigdog43]

WCE- Sharp

WCE- CDT

Rich- Duursma

Rich- Lindsay

Saints- Cumming

Bombers- Hibbins- Hargraeves

Bombers- Schubert

Hawks- Marsh

Blues- Grlj, Dovaston, Rodriguez, Farrow

Excluding academy picks it could play out a bit like this. I don’t think a Dean bid will come before our first pick. With Dean up our sleeve maybe we reach a touch with our first pick for a need? If so Dovaston as a small or Farrow as a Newman/ Saad replacement

 

[Ninja Worrier]

Think I'm hitching my bandwagon to a new colt, think cumming is a good fit to add to our young stocks

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Talor Byrne.
Goals, marking, agility, long left foot kick, tackling, pressure… be still my beating heart.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Can we get Byrne with a later pick

Left footed Tom Papley for mine. I’m 100% on board this train. No doubt he’ll rise up the rankings after that last performance but I would have no hesitation taking him with our first pick.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I remember when Ben Ronke

25

Ben Ronke

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.7

2star

K

6.3

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.7

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.2

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

5.2

5star

G

2.4

5star

kicked 7 in a game and he was the second coming for a few weeks.

Need a bigger sample from Bryne before making an accurate judgement. But he did look good.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

I remember when Ben Ronke kicked 7 in a game and he was the second coming for a few weeks.

Need a bigger sample from Bryne before making an accurate judgement. But he did look good.

That's why he would be a later pick for me right now, plus I haven't seen any CTL games yet... might be bit of an ask but a return of Cumming, Dean, Ison and Byrne would be a nice haul

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

That's why he would be a later pick for me right now, plus I haven't seen any CTL games yet... might be bit of an ask but a return of Cumming, Dean, Ison and Byrne would be a nice haul

We'll need a lot of luck to end up with Cumming imo.

Very very good player in a fairly weak draft.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

That's why he would be a later pick for me right now, plus I haven't seen any CTL games yet... might be bit of an ask but a return of Cumming, Dean, Ison and Byrne would be a nice haul

He’s played midfield mostly and consistently racked up 20+ touches and big tackle numbers. Often takes the inside 50 kick and is a great decision maker and beautiful kick of the footy.

I like that he consistently wins his own footy, has clean hands and makes quick decisions. All traits that will serve him well playing forward of the footy.

This last game showed off his marking skills which if he can continue to display for the remainder of the season, makes him a top 20 pick in this draft for mine.

 

[Old navy]

I’d love Grlj, the kid barracks for Carlton too which always helps

Born in 2007 and has still stuck with us, he must be a tough kid.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I’d love Grlj, the kid barracks for Carlton too which always helps

Born in 2007 and has still stuck with us, he must be a tough kid.

Apparently the hardest worker Oakleigh has had through the doors recently outside of Jagga. Also quite good friends from reports.

 

[carlton_99]

Have heard a weird swap of key forwards with Gold Coast.

Involving Royalty on both sides.

Is this a Charlie for King rumour because surely we wouldn't go there? Personally not a fan at all of Ben King. Very little impact outside of the 25m zone from the goalsquare for a supposed elite forward.

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

Ben king

34

Ben King

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

doesn’t really offer much other than kicking goals out the back. Something we would not be able to take advantage of given we are a bottom 3 ball movement team in the comp