Analysis 2025 Draft watch

[Aphrodite]

 

[Stamos]

North?

If they traded us their first 3 picks for 11 it would be a slight upgrade in points for us, and they’d left with 57, although it would come in a bit.

So maybe. Can’t see anyone else doing it.

 

[BlackGoanna]

Robey looks perfect for the modern game … Powerhouse mid/forward.
Slot him in amongst Walsh Smith Walker Cerra and Lord/Camporeale and our midfield looks so potent going forward.
He/they will also have the protection and guidance of Cripps and Hewett for a few more seasons yet.
I’d take luck out of the equation and offer WC picks 9,11 and Sydney F27 first pick for pick 2 with hopefully a little something coming back.
Take Robey Dean Ison this year.
Take Walker next year and Amartey for nothing as a FA and we’re ready to rock n roll in 2027 !!

Florent Weitering Dean
Cowan O’Farrell Chesser
Walsh Cripps Hollands
Hayward Amartey Robey
Moir McKay Ainsworth

O’Keefe Cerra Smith

Walker Ison Kemp Motlop Lord Wilson

Give away 3 first rounders for a potential draft Bolter who may be in 5-10 range anyway ?

And Amarty next year? Winning on those deals

 

[swuzzlebubble]

If they traded us their first 3 picks for 11 it would be a slight upgrade in points for us, and they’d left with 57, although it would come in a bit.

So maybe. Can’t see anyone else doing it.

Does 13 & 41 from wce work?

 

[Stamos]

Does 13 & 41 from wce work?

Yeah, slightly

 

[Pablito]

I wouldn't be trading back into multiple picks.

We have the points for Dean with 9 and if there is bleed over into pick 11 it should only move down a few spots.

I'd only be trading 11 into 2026 and adding a second this year. Next years draft is better and it gives us points to cover off and early bid with Dean and Ison points.

One of these i'd consider and I think those clubs would also.

11 > GWS F1 2026 and pick 35
11 > Coll F1 2026 and pick 39
11 > WBD F1 2026 and pick 33

Being armed with 3 firsts in an elite 2026 draft would be huge. Walker and another top pick.

 

[AT97]

For those on the know does Oscar Taylor shown anything to suggest he could be a midfielder?

 

[Stamos]

I wouldn't be trading back into multiple picks.

We have the point for Dean with 9 and if there is bleed over into pick 11 it should only move down a few spots.

I'd only be trading 11 into 2026 and adding a second this year. Next years draft is better and it gives us points to cover off and early bid with Dean and Ison points.

One of these i'd consider and I think those clubs would also.

11 > GWS F1 2026 and pick 35
11 > Coll F1 2026 and pick 39
11 > WBD F1 2026 and pick 33

Being armed with 3 firsts in an elite 2026 draft would be huge. Walker and another top pick.

I’d be happy with any of those deals, but I’m not sure they would be offered.

 

[GoBlues!]

If they traded us their first 3 picks for 11 it would be a slight upgrade in points for us, and they’d left with 57, although it would come in a bit.

So maybe. Can’t see anyone else doing it.

Stamos, if we wanted to move up in this year’s draft to get a top 3 three pick would the following be feasible:

Carlton trade a 27R1 and 27R2 pick to Essendon for #5. It’s early days but it means Essendon has 2 R1 picks for Bewick which might appeal to them.

We could then trade 9 and 11 to WCE for #2, or to Richmond for #3 and F2.

We would have #5 for Dean which is around the pick Dean would have been budded on and we would have to matched anyway?

 

[Pablito]

I’d be happy with any of those deals, but I’m not sure they would be offered.

Neither, just depends on if anyone wants to reach for a player.

 

[Faz 2000]

Moving up in the draft may well be what we end up doing given the anomaly of having two good picks and a strong F/S prospect. However, we need only look 12 months back for how that can backfire, too. We used a TON of capital to get Jagga - and he may well prove to be worth it - and the he went and hurt himself so we got nothing for 2025.

Distilling picks up to get top shelf stuff can get access to the best talents, but also thins out the list. Clearly the Blues need more quality everywhere, more depth.

It’s a bit sexy and exciting to trade up to get some future superstar, but it is putting a lot of chips on just one guy. I hope if we do it we also maintain some balance to keep multiple good talents flowing in for now and the future. Same applies to any potential pursuit of Butters (or similar). It gives us the high of “getting” the superstar, but the opportunity cost is just massive and we might be better to use our cache of draft picks differently.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

If they traded us their first 3 picks for 11 it would be a slight upgrade in points for us, and they’d left with 57, although it would come in a bit.

So maybe. Can’t see anyone else doing it.

11 + 27F3 -> NORTH for #25 + #26 + #46

After bid matching, gives us approx:

~#24 + ~#25 + ~#43 = ~1395

1395 - 1205 (pick 11 points) = means we have +190 points.

Then there's our own pick 43 and 54 which will probably come down to ~#40 & ~#49...

1395 + 238 + 86 = 1719

If Dean is bid on at pick 8 (imo the worst case scenario) then we need 1299.

1719 - 1299 = 420

plus the 84 for discount, means we'd effectively have 504 points and can match an Ison bid at pick 29 (1 point off 28 so that deficit is insignificant) which is probably around his range anyway.

If he's bid on at pick 10, then no issues at all.

Send our pick 9 to Pies/Freo/Giants for their F1.

I reckon something like that. Another thing to remember, our pick 11 will end up being pick 14 or 15 anyway.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Does 13 & 41 from wce work?

Pick 11 = 1205
Pick 13 + 41 = 1080 + 220 = 1300, so +95...

These top 20 or so picks are going to get pushed back though...

Our pick 11 will be pick 14 or 15... by the time the picks get to mid 20's they'll start coming back in. That's why it would be more beneficial to trade down as well...

 

[Stamos]

11 + 27F3 -> NORTH for #25 + #26 + #46

After bid matching, gives us approx:

~#24 + ~#25 + ~#43 = ~1395

1395 - 1205 (pick 11 points) = means we have +190 points.

Then there's our own pick 43 and 54 which will probably come down to ~#40 & ~#49...

1395 + 238 + 86 = 1719

If Dean is bid on at pick 8 (imo the worst case scenario) then we need 1299.

1719 - 1299 = 420

plus the 84 for discount, means we'd effectively have 504 points and can match an Ison bid at pick 29 (1 point off 28 so that deficit is insignificant) which is probably around his range anyway.

If he's bid on at pick 10, then no issues at all.

Send our pick 9 to Pies/Freo/Giants for their F1.

I reckon something like that. Another thing to remember, our pick 11 will end up being pick 14 or 15 anyway.

I wouldn’t be throwing in 27R3.
If North wanted to trade up for 11, then it’s not necessary, and it’s not going to be the carrot that convinces them if they don’t.

 

[Gointocarlton]

Is it just me or does Ison resemble Pendlebury the way he moves and kicks. Lots of stopping and propping, not overly quick but seems to have time.

 

[Stamos]

Is it just me or does Ison resemble Pendlebury the way he moves and kicks. Lots of stopping and propping, not overly quick but seems to have time.

It’s just you.
He reminds me of a player that definitely should not be bid on before pick 37.

 

[marcmurphy3]

To be honest im pleasantly surprised Ison hasnt shot up the rankings more.

Big powerful athlete, strong finish to the year, clearances + goals.

Has all the characteristics of a bolter, particularly in a weak draft.

Only thing missing is a strong combine (sat out thankfully).

Can't think of many beyond pick 10-12 that Id rather then him.

 

[StanleyBeren]

To be honest im pleasantly surprised Ison hasnt shot up the rankings more.

Big powerful athlete, strong finish to the year, clearances + goals.

Has all the characteristics of a bolter, particularly in a weak draft.

Only thing missing is a strong combine (sat out thankfully).

Can't think of many beyond pick 10-12 that Id rather then him.

Agreed I won't be shocked come draft night if Ison's name gets called in the first 15. Came home like a train and has some special qualities. People make the Pendlebury comparisons, I see more Nat Fyfe with his ability to go forward. Obviously I’m not saying he'll be a Brownlow medalist but I have faith that he will have a very good AFL career.

 

[Chemical]

Ison looks not up to AFL standard. Dean is also in that category. Late 5th rounder at best please. Or a rookie spot

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Agreed I won't be shocked come draft night if Ison's name gets called in the first 15. Came home like a train and has some special qualities. People make the Pendlebury comparisons, I see more Nat Fyfe with his ability to go forward. Obviously I’m not saying he'll be a Brownlow medalist but I have faith that he will have a very good AFL career.

He's a lot more of a thinker than Fyfe. Fyfe just ran through blokes as a specimen of pure strength. Ison likes to get physical on occasion but isn't the type to barrel through a contest like Fyfe used to. I think the Pendlebury comparison is more accurate as he generally looks to slow things down and draw opponents towards him to release a teammate in space.

Either way, if he ends up anywhere as good as either we'll be very very lucky.

 

[StanleyBeren]

He's a lot more of a thinker than Fyfe. Fyfe just ran through blokes as a specimen of pure strength. Ison likes to get physical but isn't the type to barrel through a contest like Fyfe.

Not as a Junior. He was stick thin. Watching Fyfe as a junior I couldn't have imagined he would turn into the brute he did. He looked like a guy who would float through HF and Wing and was strong above his head.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

I reckon we'd only trade up if we are targetting a particular player and are pretty sure we can get him.

If there isn't anyone we specifically want to trade up for or aren't sure we could get them, then I'd suggest we'd just trade out and try to get extra picks for next year and make sure get Dean and Ison.

What I'm saying is, if we do all that on the day and the player we were after we are still opening up a list spot. If we had surplus points, say, you wouldn't think we'd just pass on pick high enough to draft someone worth taking.

 

[The Return of the Paf]

Agreed I won't be shocked come draft night if Ison's name gets called in the first 15. Came home like a train and has some special qualities. People make the Pendlebury comparisons, I see more Nat Fyfe with his ability to go forward. Obviously I’m not saying he'll be a Brownlow medalist but I have faith that he will have a very good AFL career.

Some of you people seem to have a 'death wish' (so to speak) as far a bids are concerned. It's not osmosis, you know. They don't play any better once they've received a higher bid than expected.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Not as a Junior. He was stick thin. Watching Fyfe as a junior I couldn't have imagined he would turn into the brute he did. He looked like a guy who would float through HF and Wing and was strong above his head.

Yeah I guess that's true. Ison does have the wide shoulders already, has a magnificent frame for an 18 year old to fill into.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Would be very interested in Cooper Duff-Tytler if we were to trade up. Seems to polarise many but if he was to turn into the ruck/key forward unicorn that many think he will then that would tick so many boxes for us. He's clearly athletically gifted. Would probably be a slow burn. We would have to hope that a few clubs didn't rate his promise though.

 

[StanleyBeren]

Some of you people seem to have a 'death wish' (so to speak) as far a bids are concerned. It's not osmosis, you know. They don't play any better once they've received a higher bid than expected.

Yeah not that sure where you're coming from there. Just giving an opinion based on observation.