Position 2025 Fantasy Rucks

[Nunez]

Playing with no xerri too. I was always on marshall over xerri because of the fixture and only marshal injury made me change.

Got English currently and seeing what I can do with the cash elsewhere.

Coukd be tempted by a Briggs TDK combo and really free some cash though

Reidy R2 baby. Embrace it!

 

[Corkintheocean]

My morning thought of the day and back what i was considering a while back, leaning going against the grain and not starting Xerri.

He just has such high ownership now as an uber premo that if he starts below that average, it could give such a boost.

Gawn should average within a few points of him if he does fire so nothing lost but is there more to gain on the gamble he has a slower start (105)?

Then TDK to Xerri in rnd 4/5 if Pitto makes his way back.

I'm thinking the same way. Been Gawn and TDK and unlikely to switch all things being equal.

 

[Tex Danger]

Reidy R2 baby. Embrace it!

Interesting that’s what Selby is advocating for

 

[Shaunn]

Interesting that’s what Selby is advocating for

In SC he is, Fantasy he isn't.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Feel the risk of starting Reidy is just to high.

If Darcy is back round 3/4, that’s not enough cash gen to move Reidy on without having to lose a premo elsewhere.

Works if he plays the first 8 weeks but otherwise, finding the cash to upgrade in the early part of the season will be hard.

 

[amazingjoshy]

My morning thought of the day and back what i was considering a while back, leaning going against the grain and not starting Xerri.

He just has such high ownership now as an uber premo that if he starts below that average, it could give such a boost.

Gawn should average within a few points of him if he does fire so nothing lost but is there more to gain on the gamble he has a slower start (105)?

Then TDK to Xerri in rnd 4/5 if Pitto makes his way back.

I've been solid set and forget all PS. Xerri and Marshall turned into Xerri and Gawn with the Marshall injury.

I briefly toyed with the idea of Xerri and Briggs.

Now Ive just looked at my team now and I have English and TDK and I don't know how they got there

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

I've been solid set and forget all PS. Xerri and Marshall turned into Xerri and Gawn with the Marshall injury.

I beiefly toyed with the idea of Xerri and Briggs.

Now Ive just looked at my team now and I have English and TDK and I don't know how they got there

I’ve been in a similar boat.

Marshall / English
English / Xerri
Xerri / English
Xerri / Gawn
Xerri / TDK

Now onto Gawn / TDK and think I’m settled. For now until Xerri pumps out a 120 this weekend.

 

[stallon]

Feel the risk of starting Reidy is just to high.

If Darcy is back round 3/4, that’s not enough cash gen to move Reidy on without having to lose a premo elsewhere.

Works if he plays the first 8 weeks but otherwise, finding the cash to upgrade in the early part of the season will be hard.

Reidy r3 is the play if Boyd isn't named, imo way too risky otherwise unless we hear more about Darcy

 

[Nunez]

Feel the risk of starting Reidy is just to high.

If Darcy is back round 3/4, that’s not enough cash gen to move Reidy on without having to lose a premo elsewhere.

Works if he plays the first 8 weeks but otherwise, finding the cash to upgrade in the early part of the season will be hard.

I see it as 4-5 weeks of a rookie going 70+ who I will then upgrade to someone along the lines of Briggs, Roma or English. No different to a rookie in a different line.

It is a risk, absolutely - and wouldn't work for most teams who have more rookies in other positions, but it's a gamble that is worth a shot imo.

 

[JDWCE]

I see it as 4-5 weeks of a rookie going 70+ who I will then upgrade to someone along the lines of Briggs, Roma or English. No different to a rookie in a different line.

It is a risk, absolutely - and wouldn't work for most teams who have more rookies in other positions, but it's a gamble that is worth a shot imo.

I’m not against it but you say 70+ - have you seen what Reidy scored last year? A 50 and 59. Looked atrocious in the all stars match too. Definitely merit in going Reidy R2 but damn it’s risky

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

I see it as 4-5 weeks of a rookie going 70+ who I will then upgrade to someone along the lines of Briggs, Roma or English. No different to a rookie in a different line.

It is a risk, absolutely - and wouldn't work for most teams who have more rookies in other positions, but it's a gamble that is worth a shot imo.

But in 4-5 weeks you’re not going to make the 4-500k required to make those upgrades?

Compared to other lines where yes you still have a rookie on field, it’s more likely you’ll have bench cover for those positions if they need to be replaced or have greater options to continue that cash gen until it is enough to make those kind of upgrades.

Otherwise if Darcy comes back round 4 and your otherwise left with a red dot, you likely only have ~200k worth of cash gen and you’re looking at upgrading to the likes of Draper and not Roma, English etc.

Absolutely pays off if he gets 8+ weeks to cap out his price and otherwise rookies but I don’t think the risk is worth it if Darcy is tipped to take back that position early.

 

[Nunez]

I’m not against it but you say 70+ - have you seen what Reidy scored last year? A 50 and 59. Looked atrocious in the all stars match too. Definitely merit in going Reidy R2 but damn it’s risky

He's at a good age for a ruck and looks much more suited to big ruck minutes this year. Got a 79 in the all stars game and that was on managed minutes. Good run of opponents for a ruck too.

 

[Nunez]

But in 4-5 weeks you’re not going to make the 4-500k required to make those upgrades?

Compared to other lines where yes you still have a rookie on field, it’s more likely you’ll have bench cover for those positions if they need to be replaced or have greater options to continue that cash gen until it is enough to make those kind of upgrades.

Otherwise if Darcy comes back round 4 and your otherwise left with a red dot, you likely only have ~200k worth of cash gen and you’re looking at upgrading to the likes of Draper and not Roma, English etc.

Absolutely pays off if he gets 8+ weeks to cap out his price and otherwise rookies but I don’t think the risk is worth it if Darcy is tipped to take back that position early.

If I make 200k off him in 4 weeks I am certain it won't be hard to find the additional cash to turn him into a decent ruck.

Would not be surprised if Darcy took longer too, tbh.

All in all, I think it is a valid strategy if your team focus is cash gen. I'll be going in with one player at the 1m mark and lots of value for money guys who will gen cash. I think there'll be some rock solid rookie downgrades that pop up in the first month too.

 

[stallon]

I see it as 4-5 weeks of a rookie going 70+ who I will then upgrade to someone along the lines of Briggs, Roma or English. No different to a rookie in a different line.

It is a risk, absolutely - and wouldn't work for most teams who have more rookies in other positions, but it's a gamble that is worth a shot imo.

If reidy is rubbish he could easily be subbed at 3qtr time with 40 points with Jackson to finish the game off, or Reidy could even be dropped.
If Reidy still costs 500k when dropped what's your plan?

 

[stallon]

He's at a good age for a ruck and looks much more suited to big ruck minutes this year. Got a 79 in the all stars game and that was on managed minutes. Good run of opponents for a ruck too.

He was rucking against a 19 year old kid who has never played a game and tbh is more of a KPF than a ruckman.
Reidy also had 5cm of height on Livingstone.

Considering who he was against, Reidy played AWFUL

 

[doubleparked]

But in 4-5 weeks you’re not going to make the 4-500k required to make those upgrades?

Compared to other lines where yes you still have a rookie on field, it’s more likely you’ll have bench cover for those positions if they need to be replaced or have greater options to continue that cash gen until it is enough to make those kind of upgrades.

Otherwise if Darcy comes back round 4 and your otherwise left with a red dot, you likely only have ~200k worth of cash gen and you’re looking at upgrading to the likes of Draper and not Roma, English etc.

Absolutely pays off if he gets 8+ weeks to cap out his price and otherwise rookies but I don’t think the risk is worth it if Darcy is tipped to take back that position early.

Who says you need to make $500k? If you have a ruck/fwd at R3 you can always up/down reidy and another midpricer into a fresh rookie and an uber ruck

 

[JDWCE]

He's at a good age for a ruck and looks much more suited to big ruck minutes this year. Got a 79 in the all stars game and that was on managed minutes. Good run of opponents for a ruck too.

Yeah but he played against a 5th rate ruck. 79 is pure dogshit if that’s what we’re going off

 

[Nunez]

Yeah but he played against a 5th rate ruck. 79 is pure dogshit if that’s what we’re going off

79 in a nothing game playing 3 quarters is absolutely fine.

 

[stallon]

79 in a nothing game playing 3 quarters is absolutely fine.

Not when hes against a 19 year old rookie listed KPF 5cm shorter than him

 

[Nunez]

Not when hes against a 19 year old rookie listed KPF 5cm shorter than him

Agree to disagree.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Who says you need to make $500k? If you have a ruck/fwd at R3 you can always up/down reidy and another midpricer into a fresh rookie and an uber ruck

Unless you’re going to drop a decent mid priced to a basement price rookie, I don’t think you’ll have the cash to get Reidy to a premo ruck by round 4 though.

Using Peatling as an example as I’ve got him.

Let’s say Reidy is up to 550k by round 4. Peatling is 700k by round 4. To get him up to a premo ruck, you still need that 500k+ so have to drop your mid priced to a basement rookie (230k) who may not continue to play or have strong cash gen. Then there’s always the risk that there actually isn’t any new 230k basement rookies that week available to make the trade. Then you’re stuck in another whole mess.

Which ever way it’s approached, if he’s dropped at round 4 you need to find that 500k for a decent ruck upgrade.

Just a much higher risk to start the year IMO and good chances your left with holes and scrambling to fill them.

As a starting squad, just feels much safer to start with that ~400k player on another line as if they are dropped, you’re much more likely to have a bench option to cover it/downgrade, which we likely won’t have the luxury of in the R3 position like usual.

 

[Cm Perfect]

A play with Reidy could be to stick him at R3 with the E. Freo play first game Saturday Round 1 with a very friendly ruck match up vs SDK/Blicavs.

If Reidy goes big (say 80+) you can stick a red dot at R2 and restructure on the fly, on the premise that Reidy can hold down your R2 spot for 5-6 weeks and has baked in cash gen.

If he flops then just carry on as normal with him at R3 and trade him out once he's maxed out in price.

I may do this, but it'll be a hell of a lot simpler if we just get Harry Boyd as our playing R3 instead and can spend the $170K elsewhere.

 

[doubleparked]

Unless you’re going to drop a decent mid priced to a basement price rookie, I don’t think you’ll have the cash to get Reidy to a premo ruck by round 4 though.

Using Peatling as an example as I’ve got him.

Let’s say Reidy is up to 550k by round 4. Peatling is 700k by round 4. To get him up to a premo ruck, you still need that 500k+ so have to drop your mid priced to a basement rookie (230k) who may not continue to play or have strong cash gen. Then there’s always the risk that there actually isn’t any new 230k basement rookies that week available to make the trade. Then you’re stuck in another whole mess.

Which ever way it’s approached, if he’s dropped at round 4 you need to find that 500k for a decent ruck upgrade.

Just a much higher risk to start the year IMO and good chances your left with holes and scrambling to fill them.

As a starting squad, just feels much safer to start with that ~400k player on another line as if they are dropped, you’re much more likely to have a bench option to cover it/downgrade, which we likely won’t have the luxury of in the R3 position like usual

Unless you’re going to drop a decent mid priced to a basement price rookie, I don’t think you’ll have the cash to get Reidy to a premo ruck by round 4 though.

Using Peatling as an example as I’ve got him.

Let’s say Reidy is up to 550k by round 4. Peatling is 700k by round 4. To get him up to a premo ruck, you still need that 500k+ so have to drop your mid priced to a basement rookie (230k) who may not continue to play or have strong cash gen. Then there’s always the risk that there actually isn’t any new 230k basement rookies that week available to make the trade. Then you’re stuck in another whole mess.

Which ever way it’s approached, if he’s dropped at round 4 you need to find that 500k for a decent ruck upgrade.

Just a much higher risk to start the year IMO and good chances your left with holes and scrambling to fill them.

As a starting squad, just feels much safer to start with that ~400k player on another line as if they are dropped, you’re much more likely to have a bench option to cover it/downgrade, which we likely won’t have the luxury of in the R3 position like usual.

I get that it’s riskier but I don’t really see the appeal in picking the top end rucks as they’re not exactly screaming value and X has a shocking opening run.

If you go cheap in the rucks you can go insanely deep across the rest of the field and I feel like the risk is mitigated by it being best 18 for rd2-4.

There’s just so much value across the mids and fwds to the point where I don’t want to field a rookie in either line. Then in the backline the rookies are so shit that you wouldn’t really want to field a rookie there either

 

[freo_leo29]

Noone should be fielding Reidy, he is awful

The only reason he is getting a game is because Jackson is a shocking ruckman and we want to keep our structure

 

[freo_leo29]

79 in a nothing game playing 3 quarters is absolutely fine.

He will be scoring 50-60 in the normal season, he isn't an AFL quality ruck