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I’m a hawks man but I can’t believe the eagles looked at both lists and decided to take Hawthorns picks not the blues. You can all respond now or wait 6 months but the blues are so one paced. I laughed at the time when I heard the eagles chose the hawks picks not the blues. Blues lost depth last year in Kennedy, Martin and Owies and literally brought in Jagga. He’s a gun and will be a great point of difference for them as he’s fast by foot and brain. Just can’t see how they are better this year than last and despite their easy draw think they might go 2-6 of double ups against to Hawks, Pies, Bombers, Power.


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Carlton are having some injury issues but their best 22 has more bonafide guns than Hawthorn do.

Carlton have Cripps, Curnow, Walsh, McKay (to a lesser extent)

Hawthorn don’t have players of that calibre. Sicily is probably the only out and out ‘superstar’ on your list.

Don’t get me wrong, you have players who could well be that good one day, maybe they even get to that level this season. But Cripps is a dual Brownlow medalist (rightly or wrongly - that’s a debate for another thread) and Curnow is a dual Coleman medalist. Hawthorn haven’t got anyone with those credentials.
 
Carlton are having some injury issues but their best 22 has more bonafide guns than Hawthorn do.

Carlton have Cripps, Curnow, Walsh, McKay (to a lesser extent)

Hawthorn don’t have players of that calibre. Sicily is probably the only out and out ‘superstar’ on your list.

Don’t get me wrong, you have players who could well be that good one day, maybe they even get to that level this season. But Cripps is a dual Brownlow medalist (rightly or wrongly - that’s a debate for another thread) and Curnow is a dual Coleman medalist. Hawthorn haven’t got anyone with those credentials.
Makes you wonder how the Hawks destroyed them by 11 goals last outing between the two.

Makes you wonder how the Hawks have owned them the entire time Cripps, Curnow, Walsh, McKay have been playing.
 

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Curnow and McKay played in the game we destroyed them in.

No mention of the reasons why we have owned them the entire careers of the players I mentioned?

Not to mention in that list there are 6 players who would not even get a game for your mob.
 
Curnow and McKay played in the game we destroyed them in.

No mention of the reasons why we have owned them the entire careers of the players I mentioned?

Not to mention in that list there are 6 players who would not even get a game for your mob.
Umpires were very biased to Hawthorn, Carlton would have won otherwise
 
Curnow and McKay played in the game we destroyed them in.
Yes. This injury list is from the week after the game you’re referring to. A game in which Carlton lost 5 players to injury and had one player on the bench in the late stages of the game. No wonder you ‘destroyed them’. You had 4 extra players.

McKay played the game out on one leg, Curnow couldn’t continue.

No mention of the reasons why we have owned them the entire careers of the players I mentioned?
I really don’t see how that’s relevant to this thread so there’s no point in discussing it.

Thanks for stopping by with your insight and wisdom.
 
Yes. This injury list is from the week after the game you’re referring to. A game in which Carlton lost 5 players to injury and had one player on the bench in the late stages of the game. No wonder you ‘destroyed them’. You had 4 extra players.


I really don’t see how that’s relevant to this thread so there’s no point in discussing it.

Thanks for stopping by with your insight and wisdom.
Thanks for showing me an injury list from the VFL. 👍
 
Thanks for showing me an injury list from the VFL. 👍


I think you’re being disingenuous

Not all the names on that list are best 22 but many are. It’s clear that the respective injury lists were a factor in the result last time you played Carlton. Not the only factor, but one of them

Now, if you have something useful to add you’re welcome to do so. If not, share your lack of wisdom elsewhere
 
Sorry if I have missed it but is it confirmed that WC were given the option of choosing between the Blues' or Hawks' picks??

Hawks would have been reluctant to give away Carlton's because they have to back themselves to be better than them in 2025?
 
I’m a hawks man but I can’t believe the eagles looked at both lists and decided to take Hawthorns picks not the blues. You can all respond now or wait 6 months but the blues are so one paced. I laughed at the time when I heard the eagles chose the hawks picks not the blues. Blues lost depth last year in Kennedy, Martin and Owies and literally brought in Jagga. He’s a gun and will be a great point of difference for them as he’s fast by foot and brain. Just can’t see how they are better this year than last and despite their easy draw think they might go 2-6 of double ups against to Hawks, Pies, Bombers, Power.


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I'm predicting Hawks for bottom 4, so am very happy we have your selections.
 
Sorry if I have missed it but is it confirmed that WC were given the option of choosing between the Blues' or Hawks' picks??

Hawks would have been reluctant to give away Carlton's because they have to back themselves to be better than them in 2025?

From afl.com.au

In negotiations, the Hawks had given the Eagles the choice of future first- and future second-round picks tied to the Blues or tied to the Hawks. West Coast opted for the latter, essentially betting that Hawthorn will finish below Carlton on the ladder in 2025.
 

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I can understand the club justifying taking the Hawks picks:
  • Came out of nowhere in 2024, won't be able to surprise teams like that again.
  • great run with injuries, will be hard to replicate
  • young list, higher chances of inconsistency
Etc

Harder to make a case for the Carlton picks. If anything, it's easier to make a case for Carlton rising up the ladder than having a down year.

Definitely made the right call, even if it ends up being the wrong one.
 

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