2025 Ladder Predictions

[Strapping Young Lad]

Did a double take when saw Hawks second fave for the flag.

May be a little premature

The window is open, Gav.

 

[hawkman]

Did a double take when saw Hawks second fave for the flag.

May be a little premature

I sense your fear

 

[JPetro83]

The window is open, Gav.

No it's not. that so called "hakball" crap whatever it is won't hold up in 2025. reality check for the hawks in 2025. bookmark it.

 

[TheFourPillars]

No it's not. that so called "hakball" crap whatever it is won't hold up in 2025. reality check for the hawks in 2025. bookmark it.

Based on what exactly?

 

[bungalow_bill]

Hawks remind me of the Lions circa 09/10. A false dawn.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Hawks remind me of the Lions circa 09/10. A false dawn.

Yeah they don't have enough talent - too many average players who played above themselves in 2024

 

[I got the outside word]

1. Hawthorn
2. There is no competition to add.

 

[hawkman]

Yeah they don't have enough talent - too many average players who played above themselves in 2024

Which players in particular?

Not sure you can play above yourself

 

[TheFourPillars]

Which players in particular?

Not sure you can play above yourself

I don't think they realise what's coming

 

[bungalow_bill]

Now that reminds me of the Blues circa 09/10 and we know how that ended

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Hawks remind me of the Lions circa 09/10. A false dawn.

Melbourne 2018

 

[hawkman]

I don't think they realise what's coming

Possibly. I am not discounting a dip next year.

I just don't get the whole players played above themselves thing. Players can drop back next year but that doesn't mean they played above themselves this year

 

[hawkman]

Melbourne 2018

We are getting a flag in 3 years? I'll take that

 

[Lsta062]

1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. Brisbane
4. Fremantle
5. Adelaide
6. Collingwood
7. Port Adelaide
8. Gold Coast
———————————————
9. St Kilda
10. Carlton
11. Greater Western Sydney
12. Western Bulldogs
13. Melbourne
14. Sydney
15. North Melbourne
16. Essendon
17. West Coast
18. Richmond

EDIT: left Melbourne out

 

[Lsta062]

Yeah they don't have enough talent - too many average players who played above themselves in 2024

They have talent - it’s just not pooled in a couple of players. Their talent is spread fairly evenly across the ground. Also, Sam Mitchell has them playing a great gamestyle that is hard to coach against.

The one thing that stands out about Hawthorn is that they have many avenues to goal. Just look at what their spread of goalkickers looks like in some games. Not a single one of their players kicked above 5 goals in a match last year. Yet, they still ranked 6th in points for at the end of the H&A rounds.

Instead of having 2 people kick 10 goals between them and a bunch of single goals and 0 goals after that, they have 5+ multiple goalkickers. When they scored 170 points against North Melbourne for example, the highest any individual scored was 4 goals (Moore). They got to that score because they had 9 players score 2 or more goals. Overall, they had 12 goalkickers that match.
Against Adelaide, they had 8 players kick 2 goals to get to a score of 124. All up, they had 11 goalkickers.

I anticipate that their style of play (courtesy of Sam Mitchell) and their list demographic will still stand up next year

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

We are getting a flag in 3 years? I'll take that

I means it’s not a 1 to 1

 

[Donflicted]

1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. Brisbane
4. Fremantle
5. Adelaide
6. Collingwood
7. Port Adelaide
8. Gold Coast
———————————————
9. St Kilda
10. Carlton
11. Greater Western Sydney
12. Western Bulldogs
13. Port Adelaide
14. Sydney
15. North Melbourne
16. Essendon
17. West Coast
18. Richmond

Sorry assuming 13 or 7 to be Dees or Port looks like you doubled up

 

[Lsta062]

Sorry assuming 13 or 7 to be Dees or Port looks like you doubled up

Well, that’s true. Thanks for pointing that out!

Hmmmm. I intended to put Port in at 13th, but let’s just leave them in the top 8 and put Melbourne at 13th

 

[Big Blood]

GWS
Geelong
Brisbane
Hawks

North to make the top 12

 

[Coach_Required]

 

[Frank Grimes]

1. Fremantle
2. Brisbane
3. Carlton
4. GWS

5. Hawthorn
6. Sydney
7. Geelong
8. Gold Coast

9. Bulldogs
10. Port Adelaide
11. Adelaide
12. Collingwood
13. Essendon
14. West Coast
15. North Melbourne
16. Melbourne
17. Saints
18. Richmond

 

[MCG-Unit]

Wishlist...

Saints
Geelong
G Coast
GWS Giants

Brisbane Lions, Swans
Dockers, WC Eagles

9-18 - Rest of the world

 

[Mags98]

top 4:
freo
hawks
bris
dogs

top 8:
gws
cats
crows
saints

pies
swans
blues
port
gcs
dons

melb
north
eagles
tiges

 

[Reservoir tiger]

1. Brisbane
2. Fremantle
3. Hawthorn
4. Sydney

5. GWS
6. Power
7. Carlton
8. Bulldogs

9. Collingwood
10 Gold Coast
11 Adelaide
12 Geelong
13 Melbourne
14 St Kilda
15 West Coast
16 Essendon

17 Richmond
18 North

 

[Seattle Mariners]

Richmond 1-2 wins
West coast 3 to 5 wins
North 5 to 7 wins

Dont see as much improvement in Collingwood as expected. I still have them missing.

Gold Coast and Fremantle into the 8, Hawthorn and Port Adelaide out

new coaches for Essendon and Adelaide throughout the season.

Why?