Green shoots
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But newer players also in the team. It's not necessarily the same list.
Green shoots
Good for stretching out the suspect calf……..Are you suggesting his bike is too small or that it has only one wheel? Either way it’s unacceptable.

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Come on, you know full well this core has remained, particularly the millionaires club who continue to not deliver, even against the worst teams in the comp this season.
They don't set standards, they don't lead, they take their money and whatever happens, happens.
It was abundantly clear when they put in putrid performances when Buzz and Walls passed away.
They dgaf...
I stopped watching at HT but this is typical of Voss…he’s got no bloody idea what so everPossibly.
Durdin no disposals is the 2nd quarter and 1 disposal in the 3rd quarter.
Our midfield is getting beat so let’s sub off Lord and keep Durdin on the back of his 1 kick in two quarters of football. Master stroke.

Needs to review the footage to see how they kicked 8 unanswered.No learnings today……
Well 2 of them didn't play today.
I agree on Curnow. Lazy lazy lazy.
If we get rid of those 3 plus Cripps and Weitering, will things get better? Will the game plan work better?
It would seem so.We lost our soul as a club in 2002 and we’ve never been able to get it back. Soon after that we lost 40 consecutive years of Carlton premiership players when Kouta retired.
Culture is very difficult to build and very easy to lose. We’re the greatest example of that.
Our on field “leaders” have absolutely no idea what it takes to make a team successful. They’ve also been enabled by 20 years of administrative ineptitude. Essentially Carlton is a nice place to make some money, meet some good mates and live the life of an AFL player. Our guys are happy with that and don’t yearn for more.
Maybe not expected, but definitely not surprising if you've watched either team over the past 4-6 weeks and know anything about football.We beat them by 14 goals in round 6.
To suggest today’s result was expected is nonsense.
It’s started.The presser
- Not looking beyond Port game in relation to heat surrounding his job
All that face palming has clearly done some damage.I stopped watching at HT but this is typical of Voss…he’s got no bloody idea what so ever
He’s so far out of his depth it’s not funny
bit like what he did with Kennedy and Tdk in the finals
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Since Voss was coach? This has happened with Malthouse, Bolton and Teague in the last decade.First time I have felt the players don't want to play for the coach,
Keep your head in the sand all you likeAll that face palming has clearly done some damage.

If this is the case, then we blow up the list. If it's not, we get the right help around them.
Yep, we’ve actually gone backwards when you consider the list he inherited and the washed out bunch we have now. Mental health issues, leadership throwing in the towel, and today showed they’ve actually all given up on playing fir the jumper.Spot on. 1 year out of 4 you could consider a pass mark for the club.
Voss hasn't been able to develop a gameplan for what I think is a top 4 list.
The next major issue is now half the top tier players are passed their best anyway.
Cripps, Acres, Mcgovern, Doc all should be out the door with him. Weak leadership.
It wasn't even 1 year.Spot on. 1 year out of 4 you could consider a pass mark for the club.
Voss hasn't been able to develop a gameplan for what I think is a top 4 list.
The next major issue is now half the top tier players are passed their best anyway.
Cripps, Acres, Mcgovern, Doc all should be out the door with him. Weak leadership.