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We went on for years about Stocker having no tank and yet he continues to get games at AFL level.

Moir is said to be putting in the work and has a good attitude. If we can't build his tank to a level that he can play in an AFL forward line, then that is a failure of the club.

All he lacks is a tank ... Moir has everything else.

Lacking a tank is not a death knell, a lack of skills is. We have plenty of blokes who fit the latter category - Moir is not one of those. In fact, he is the opposite.

And this continual comparing him to Menzel is disrespectful of the kid. Behave yourselves!
 
We went on for years about Stocker having no tank and yet he continues to get games at AFL level.

Moir is said to be putting in the work and has a good attitude. If we can't build his tank to a level that he can play in an AFL forward line, then that is a failure of the club.

All he lacks is a tank ... Moir has everything else.

Lacking a tank is not a death knell, a lack of skills is. We have plenty of blokes who fit the latter category - Moir is not one of those. In fact, he is the opposite.

And this continual comparing him to Menzel is disrespectful of the kid. Behave yourselves!
Started seriously training after getting dumped.
 
We went on for years about Stocker having no tank and yet he continues to get games at AFL level.

Moir is said to be putting in the work and has a good attitude. If we can't build his tank to a level that he can play in an AFL forward line, then that is a failure of the club.

All he lacks is a tank ... Moir has everything else.

Lacking a tank is not a death knell, a lack of skills is. We have plenty of blokes who fit the latter category - Moir is not one of those. In fact, he is the opposite.

And this continual comparing him to Menzel is disrespectful of the kid. Behave yourselves!
Unfortunately in this day and age, a tank is pretty important. Back pockets and HBF type players run hard towards wing and half forward and if Moir can't stay with his direct opponent for an entire match, then the issue is with him
 
Dean seems to be gaining popularity draft wise which poses some issues, im still predicting TDK to leave, if we were to get a pick around 8-10 and target Bergman for example, what pick would you expect back? Port will ask for overs like last year but considering what they started at last year with Houston, they didn’t really get a great deal.

I dont think Bergman is worth a top 10 pick at all but Port might want to get in the top 10 by offering Bergman and 22 for 8 and 35.

That would allow us to get Bergman and still have a possibility of getting a pick before Dean or having a good pick to match with.
 
Dean seems to be gaining popularity draft wise which poses some issues, im still predicting TDK to leave, if we were to get a pick around 8-10 and target Bergman for example, what pick would you expect back? Port will ask for overs like last year but considering what they started at last year with Houston, they didn’t really get a great deal.

I dont think Bergman is worth a top 10 pick at all but Port might want to get in the top 10 by offering Bergman and 22 for 8 and 35.

That would allow us to get Bergman and still have a possibility of getting a pick before Dean or having a good pick to match with.
Shocking deal. We shouldn't be trading a first round pick for Bergman of any kind.

If we did do that deal pick 35 definately shouldn't be coming back from us.
 
Shocking deal. We shouldn't be trading a first round pick for Bergman of any kind.

If we did do that deal pick 35 definately shouldn't be coming back from us.
Firstly, have you watched this year's draft class play?

Secondly, have you watched Bergman play this year?

Id be astonished if Port asked for anything less than a pick under 15 for him this year. The most compromised and one of the weakest drafts in years.

15 could very well blow out to close to pick 25 or 30.
 

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Firstly, have you watched this year's draft class play?

Secondly, have you watched Bergman play this year?

Id be astonished if Port asked for anything less than a pick under 15 for him this year. The most compromised and one of the weakest drafts in years.

15 could very well blow out to close to pick 25 or 30.
There's always trading it into next year. There's a lot of 'begging the question' regarding the way things are done on this forum. The ones who 'rock the boat' are drowned out by mid-season.
 
Dean seems to be gaining popularity draft wise which poses some issues, im still predicting TDK to leave, if we were to get a pick around 8-10 and target Bergman for example, what pick would you expect back? Port will ask for overs like last year but considering what they started at last year with Houston, they didn’t really get a great deal.

I dont think Bergman is worth a top 10 pick at all but Port might want to get in the top 10 by offering Bergman and 22 for 8 and 35.

That would allow us to get Bergman and still have a possibility of getting a pick before Dean or having a good pick to match with.
Bergman is absolutely worth a top 10 pick this year. 8-10 this year will be 14ish after the drafts had the eyes picked out of it
 
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