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List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

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This is a hollow threat - "I would prefer to take nothing over two first round picks" is an attitude that can only exist on the internet and would make a terrible situation even worse for us
There is no threat. There is an unbelievably good contract in front of him. He has said he is happy. He can sign it.
 
I'm hoping if it does eventuate it will effect change and the AFL finally tells the players enough is enough and gives more control back to the clubs like allow trading of players if they don't have a no-trade clause.
If that’s the case, we’ll forever be the Canary in the coal mine. Grand Final Draw? No more rematch and instead introduced extra time. Elite talent leaves for a packet of Samboy BBQ chips? League brings in tougher rules for trading.
 

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If that’s the case, we’ll forever be the Canary in the coal mine. Grand Final Draw? No more rematch and extra time. Elite talent leaves for a packet of Samboy BBQ chips? League brings in tougher rules for trading.
I agree.
Unfortunately that's just been what we are for eternity.
It sucks and I hope to hell he stays.
I just think this will leave a sour taste in the mouths of ours for a long time and I think a lot of clubs will look at this with a bit of disgust to be honest
 
The club has done the smart thing this time by having the B&F before the trade period, so I think he won't say his intentions until after the B&F.
Would still be in real awkward for him to get up there unsigned and give the classic

“I love the club and want to be here to build something special”

And then requests a trade the next day
 
Lets be realistic he's probably won the thing by now.

Unlike Battle I don't think we can say "don't show up" if he wants out.
Windy is the more interesting inclusion given he's never won it and no one would expect to have him on the podium.

Hopefully it means something positive in terms of his contract.
 
I agree.
Unfortunately that's just been what we are for eternity.
It sucks and I hope to hell he stays.
I just think this will leave a sour taste in the mouths of ours for a long time and I think a lot of clubs will look at this with a bit of disgust to be honest
I agree with the people saying their interest in footy next year will dwindle if Nas leaves. This club has the most loyal and tortured supporters. We finally have an elite A-Grader on our hands and he’s gonna walk? F**k me, right?
 
I agree with the people saying their interest in footy next year will dwindle if Nas leaves. This club has the most loyal and tortured supporters. We finally have an elite A-Grader on our hands and he’s gonna walk? F**k me, right?
This isn't just elite though for us.
This is potentially a player if he stays on his current trajectory and stays with us long term could be arguably our greatest ever midfielder.
Is that hyperbolic yes do I care no
 

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You work your arses off to land a guy like Nas and walks literally as soon as he goes elite.
This is also on the back of losing 3rd place in our B&F the year prior, and our most promising young player in a long time, at least when he was drafted, the year before that.

Nas leaving now confirms our status as a feeder club. We start looking at who goes next year - I'll go early and say Darcy Wilson is the one....seeds already being sowed in the media last week.

Who is gonna keeping kicking in for merch, memberships, raffle tickets, every other thing the club puts their hand out for, if the best we can hope for is the first few years of a guns career, and B-graders looking for a fat retirement fund from our "warchest"?
 
This isn't just elite though for us.
This is potentially a player if he stays on his current trajectory and stays with us long term could be arguably our greatest ever midfielder.
Is that hyperbolic yes do I care no
It’s crazy to suggest our 2nd flag hopes are imbedded with this guy, but they’ll go a long way if he stays. I totally agree, if he sees out his career with us, he’ll be in the same conversation with Harvey/Riewoldt/Lockett
 
Nas is literally the future of this entire rebuild that’s taken us decades. It’s not like he’s only got a couple years left in him.

Him leaving would just make it so much more difficult. At 22 he’s basically carrying the team on his back already.
Yep, we've been saying "we can't trade in elite talent we have to draft it", if Nas leaves then that's not even true.
 

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I think it’s more likely Nas stays then goes. His form makes a lot more sense that he knows there’s more money to gain from the saints then trying to force a trade with a club that has no first round picks and limited talented players to trade. I still think his manager is holding out to get every dollar he can from the saints for the next two seasons!
 
I hundred percent think if Naz stays and the trade period goes the way we hope then we take it out next year.
Plus I’m a hundred percent sure Naz stays.
I like your optimism

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Reality is that if it gets to the 11th hour of the trade period and all Port have is their 2026 and 2027 firsts, that is what SOS will have to negotiate with, and that's what we'll get.

Is that reasonable compensation? Absolutely not. Can we do anything about it? Not really
for that to happen the afl have to break their own rule re first round picks 2 in 4 years or whatever it is,now they have done that before,but not to totally screw a club,if they sign off on port trading those picks to us when we consider that a bs trade,then we might as well totally pack it in,as much as i bag the afl i cant see them allowing port to break the rules to totally screw us,now if we said yeah give us that in reality pick 22 in 2026 and pick 26 in 2027,sounds like a bonza deal for naz,then sure give port the all clear,but WHEN we say get stuffed,there is no way the afl will force us to accept that trade proposal
 
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