List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[BrutThough]

He has one of the best defenders in the League next to him in Wilkie.
Still feel we need to retain Howard. Him fit with Aleer makes our backline look, at least on paper, much better.

Agreed, or we need trade to someone else in. Leek replaces Cordy's list spot.

A fit Howard is still best 22. And if he's overtaken next year, we are in a fantastic spot.

 

[Pardon me]

Not sure if its been mentioned previously, but if NAS heads across to SA he'd want to quickly learn to love the limelight. For an introverted, shy kid being a 2 million dollar man in a 2 horse town is going to come with all kinds of extra media commitments and scrutiny.
Good luck with your mental health NAS, whatever your decision look after yourself.

 

[Joffaboy]

Not sure if its been mentioned previously, but if NAS heads across to SA he'd want to quickly learn to love the limelight. For an introverted, shy kid being a 2 million dollar man in a 2 horse town is going to come with all kinds of extra media commitments and scrutiny.
Good luck with your mental health NAS, whatever your decision look after yourself.

Yes even an extrovert in Harley Reid has struggled in Western Australia.
We talk of the expectations on TDK if he comes to the Saints.
Imagine the pressure on him when Ports season goes pear shape again next year?

 

[The Jack]

Nothing new. Just that he has had multiple posts over last two months which had no room for doubt.

Sounds like Tony knows more than Carl Delena.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Not sure if its been mentioned previously, but if NAS heads across to SA he'd want to quickly learn to love the limelight. For an introverted, shy kid being a 2 million dollar man in a 2 horse town is going to come with all kinds of extra media commitments and scrutiny.
Good luck with your mental health NAS, whatever your decision look after yourself.

You're kidding aren't you , Christ not everyone melts at the slightest bit of drama

 

[SainterinSydney]

Sounds like Tony knows more tha Carl Delena.

Maybe he is Carl

 

[botts]

Sounds like Tony knows more than Carl Delena.

Maybe tony is Carl

 

[StFly]

Maybe he is Carl

Carl appears in face, smacks of Lethers until he gets outed in public for diddling in the shadows.

 

[Pardon me]

You're kidding aren't you , Christ not everyone melts at the slightest bit of drama

No I'm not kidding.
Granted he's shown amazing resilience during these contract negotiations by playing unarguably his greatest footy of his career but being out on the field focused solely on his job/role and surrounded by team mates is light years from being dogged day and night by media scum prying into every movement and choice hes making off the field.

 

[stavro#4]

Man I love this thread.

Even a day after our CEO says he is optimistic and confident and even says 7.5/10 he will stay.

Posters are wetting themselves because Terry wants Nas closer to home. Which is no doubt accurate - it’s also 0 new information. We know his family wants him home. When know nas has a pull to them.

A day after what is currently our biggest need on our list - genuine AFL level talls, gets highlighted - again. People want to do another round of binning Aleer (I am sure we will circle back to TDK again soon aswell)

Darling had an impact against us too, a week ago for those that forgot. 1 goal and 2 direct goal assists. Maybe Wilks isn’t worth the money or Caminiti isn’t the potential key back we all thought or maybe Tauru is a dud.

That doom mongering. Some of you lap it right up.

 

[Sully111]

Man I love this thread.

Even a day after our CEO says he is optimistic and confident and even says 7.5/10 he will stay.

Posters are wetting themselves because Terry wants Nas closer to home. Which is no doubt accurate - it’s also 0 new information. We know his family wants him home. When know nas has a pull to them.

A day after what is currently our biggest need on our list - genuine AFL level talls, gets highlighted - again. People want to do another round of binning Aleer (I am sure we will circle back to TDK again soon aswell)

Darling had an impact against us too, a week ago for those that forgot. 1 goal and 2 direct goal assists. Maybe Wilks isn’t worth the money or Caminiti isn’t the potential key back we all thought or maybe Tauru is a dud.

That doom mongering. Some of you lap it right up.

Thank you wise one.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Have to address this. Is Matthew Lloyd actually brain-dead or is it an act?

He was on the Footy Show saying we were praying no bid before 40 for Windy and we really got a beauty.
Then he went on to call us whingers and say we got Windy for nothing. The absolute fool contradicted his own statement.
We whinge you f-wit because we had to wait to after pick 20 ( Lloyd was wrong on that as well) before we could pick him up, unlike the Northern States that could pick him up anywhere for free.
And where did Cam McKenzie go? Top ten, our NGA, but we couldn't touch him.

So sick of these brainless so called experts.

Whilst I appreciate your (spot on) rant, unfortunately I’m going to spoil it by saying that I was actually talking about Dodson!

Although, now I look back at MY post, I see it didn’t quote the post I was responding to

Was this, by gringo2011 …
“He looks like he'll be a gun and we have a couple of back ups on top of him. Dodson could probably play round one next year. Looks like Jackson.”

 

[stavro#4]

Thank you wise one.

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[dudeintheswamp]

I do love a good old fashioned meme-off

 

[saintbill]

More ridiculous comments through the season that Ben King only kicks goals but offers not much else.

Would love to be in for him next season.


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2 Kings in the same forward line would result in the least defensive forward pressure in the AFL.

Haven't seen today's stats but prior to today Ben King had laid 8 tackles for the season. No other player in the AFL has had less then 10, who has played more than 10+ games.

His second efforts are are so poor he makes Max King look like prime Lenny Hayes.

He is a very straight kick for goal in a team that gives great supply. However, less than 8 possessions and 3 marks a game, tells u that he is actually the definition of a bloke who offers little outside of goal kicking.

You think he would have any hope of kicking 40+ goals in out team? I don't, he is a horrible contested player. I reckon with our delivery he would be a 35-40 goal a year player at best.

Sharman has had an off year kicking wise, but we are basically getting 35-40 goals from him and he actually has a defensive side to his game, and actuall works hard. Will be a 50+ goal kicker in coming years without being insanely soft.

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Thank you wise one.

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It's a Stavro world, we're just posting in it

 

[littlecreatures]

It's a Stavro world, we're just posting in it

 

[SainterinSydney]

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Not a single person on here:

• Knows what our offer to Nas is
• Knows what our offer to TDK is
• Knows what our offer to Aleer is
• Knows what our offer to Windhager is

Some of the melts seem a little premature to say the least

 

[tomjoad]

I do love a good old fashioned meme-off

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[tim_saints]

Not a single person on here:

• Knows what our offer to Nas is
• Knows what our offer to TDK is
• Knows what our offer to Aleer is
• Knows what our offer to Windhager is

Some of the melts seem a little premature to say the least

The disrespect shown to Tony here is off the charts

 

[SainterinSydney]

Not a single person on here:

• Knows what our offer to Nas is
• Knows what our offer to TDK is
• Knows what our offer to Aleer is
• Knows what our offer to Windhager is

Some of the melts seem a little premature to say the least

The Misses is on the money--circle jerks and screaming into the void.

 

[Sol Goodman]

I would not be surprised if there was a value adding documentary being produced in the background of all of this. The manager is dragging it out in order to delay the decision and create the drama.
Soon on Prime - The Decision!

Line up for The Nas DVD. It can go on the bookshelf next to The Streak 2009.

 

[Joffaboy]

Whilst I appreciate your (spot on) rant, unfortunately I’m going to spoil it by saying that I was actually talking about Dodson!

Although, now I look back at MY post, I see it didn’t quote the post I was responding to

Was this, by gringo2011 …
“He looks like he'll be a gun and we have a couple of back ups on top of him. Dodson could probably play round one next year. Looks like Jackson.”

So to answer your original post, Dodson was seen as a possible flight risk as he had an offer from an NBL team but opted for football, also footy clubs, while rating ruckman ( look what we are willing to pay for TDK) don't value drafting and developing a ruckman.
Someone on the telecast of the Freo v Port game that Murphy Ried is 'a footballer', meaning he has footy IQ, and is just a natural.
I feel the same with Dodson, from the moment I saw him preseason, I thought, 'this kid is a footballer'.
Goes back to my post about overpaying just a few of our best kids. In years to come Tauru and Dodson will probably demand decent money and others will come for them.
What is the point of drafting and developing these kids to not be able to retain them.
I know as punters we want immediate success, but list managers and the club needs to look, three, four, five years ahead and plan accordingly.

 

[Joffaboy]

I do love a good old fashioned meme-off

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I hate it