List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[sammm]

Doesn’t mean he's stays. Could be the opposite.

 

[aidansbonor]

A lot of people know, they are just very very good keeping it in house.

do u accept paypal or beers for more info

love ur work tony

 

[Mystifly]

They were always gambling and the same nuffies said Hill and Howard were going to propel us to glory.

Well, we did win a final that year (Geary masterclass on Daniel).. My classic Saints copium is that we lost because Long was suspended for "potential to cause injury" and Ryder doing his hammy in the last 3 minutes of the elimination final. Otherwise, we were a definite chance against the Tigers in week 2, and who knows?

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

Are we?
After watching Richo and Ratten fck it up I’m ok the club is taking a swing
IF (yep it’s IF) TDK plays anywhere near his first 6 games this year it’s a masterpiece and makes us better
IF Aleer comes in can hold down a back position and free up Wilkie ….
You gotta have a go to get a go and give current FA market I’d rather pay TDK than lose the $ OR have to spread it across a list who don’t deserve it
Been there done that

TDK was dominant last year too.

People are either willfully ignoring that or don't watch much footy.

He's a gun when fully fit & firing.

 

[gringo2011]

The only difference with Membrey this year vs last year is he's playing for a team with better press and visibility.

He's more structured this year in that he's anchored more inside 50, he roamed up to the wing a little more last year to be the link man, but that also gave him more goals running back towards goals.

Lining up his stats they are better in the 19 games last year than in his 19 games this year.

He struggled last couple of years as both a high HF and as a KPF.

 

[The Punter]

Doubt it. Sounds like our list management don’t rate Windhager. Probably just steak knives. SOS and Ross don’t seem like fans. Reckon he’ll end up embarrassing us. When TDK and Aleer don’t impact they are going to come under massive pressure.

Windy has been selected at every opportunity in the last 2 and a half years.

Ross is sure showing some visible signs that he likes Windhager...

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

He struggled last couple of years as both a high HF and as a KPF.

His knee was fkd & he couldn't jump. Which is a worry when your one wood is a double footed vertical leap.

 

[CursingFijian]

I think it’s time to bring back some old school slurs. That’ll straighten everyone out

Sit back down you palooka.

 

[gringo2011]

TDK was dominant last year too.

People are either willfully ignoring that or don't watch much footy.

He's a gun when fully fit & firing.

He has had 5 or 6 outstanding games a year and about the same amount of horrible games. His best looks amazing but he can be quite ordinary. He’s very similar to Marshall in his ability to win his own clearance. If ruck rules allow a run up he probably has a huge advantage but he’s no messiah either.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Oh please, this place is a better place when you are a regular and our draft stuff is

Get a room you two

 

[gringo2011]

Well, we did win a final that year (Geary masterclass on Daniel).. My classic Saints copium is that we lost because Long was suspended for "potential to cause injury" and Ryder doing his hammy in the last 3 minutes of the elimination final. Otherwise, we were a definite chance against the Tigers in week 2, and who knows?

We had a very simple game plan with lots of Joe the goose goals, we got worked out later in the year too.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Sammm it means that sooner or later a player on $2 mill by 7 years is gonna have a massive injury in their first year and never play again and the afl want to protect the clubs against the repercussions of that.

 

[gringo2011]

Windy has been selected at every opportunity in the last 2 and a half years.

Ross is sure showing some visible signs that he likes Windhager...

If it’s true that he isn’t in the future best 22 shown to Nas you’d think that that would have been done with Ross there.

 

[StCicatriz]

If butters decides to leave and nas doesn't go to Port. Thats a huge loss for them before trade week even begins

 

[akaifu]

Josh Daicos was pretty ordinary for years and must be close to 28. Windy is just getting started and would be ahead at the same age.

Given Josh signed his contract after winning a premiership, winning the B&F, and being selected AA, I wouldn't think his past would've affected his contract negotation

The facts are that he established himself as an A-grader of the competition at 24 years old and signed a lucrative contract

Windy is 22 and hasn't achieved anything as a similar versatile/wing type player - if he's demanding 850k then Daicos better be on well over 1m/year imo - which I'm not sure he is

Yes he's younger, but he can sign for 2 years on the money he deserves now (around 700k imo) then re-assess whether he's worth 850k or not when he's also 24

 

[St Neil]

I think people are starting to get cold feet because he hasn't been playing great the second half of the season.

But I'll just back Ross to get him back to the form we saw earlier in the season, which was utterly dominant.

A lot has changed since the first half of the season - Carlton are a rabble, TDK had/has a knee and larynx injury, he has been played out of position, motivation levels must be down.

I mean he got battered in that North Melbourne game on the boundary and not one team-mate stood up for him.

I'm honestly excited to add him to a positive environment and our midfield mix.

People forget how electrifying TDK was earlier in the season.

He will be amazing for us.

 

[gringo2011]

Given Josh signed his contract after winning a premiership, winning the B&F, and being selected AA, I wouldn't think his past would've affected his contract negotation

The facts are that he established himself as an A-grader of the competition at 24 years old and signed a lucrative contract

Windy is 22 and hasn't achieved anything as a similar versatile/wing type player - if he's demanding 850k then Daicos better be on well over 1m/year imo - which I'm not sure he is

Yes he's younger, but he can sign for 2 years on the money he deserves then re-assess whether he's worth 850k or not

It’s a lot easier to sign for unders in that position and as a name synonymous with the club. He’ll get benefits from Collingwood fans for life. Aren’t you the same guy who was saying that giving money to TDK doesn’t matter because we lose it if we don’t use it?

 

[billings2paddy]

Itvitvhim or the list manager ? Because shouldn't half our players that there contracts finish this year be already signed up? What's waiting till end of year?

simple it's called money

 

[The Punter]

If it’s true that he isn’t in the future best 22 shown to Nas you’d think that that would have been done with Ross there.

What is the original source for the "Nas was shown a best 22 without Windhager in it" assertion?

Ross shows us a best 22 every week with Windhager in it.

 

[beside the seaside]

Doesn’t mean he's stays. Could be the opposite.

Who knows... I just love a Tony74 bomb. Keeps the forum interesting.

 

[Linton Street Saint]

People forget how electrifying TDK was earlier in the season.

He will be amazing for us.

Especially when they remove the bounce.

 

[St Neil]

If butters decides to leave and nas doesn't go to Port. Thats a huge loss for them before trade week even begins

Port’s list is at a tipping point.

 

[True Believer]

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Circle jerk?

 

[AFaiL]

Love that i have come back to 5 pages of.... SFA lol

So, if he signs, when do we open the thread discussing his free agency decision to stay or go?

 

[sammm]

Sammm it means that sooner or later a player on $2 mill by 7 years is gonna have a massive injury in their first year and never play again and the afl want to protect the clubs against the repercussions of that.

Thanks