List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[stavro#4]

I think we’ll ask for a player. Last thing we need is midrange draft picks.

You ain’t getting anyone unless it’s Collard or Steele and you would still be giving us more than Ryan.

Any young gun is off the table. This likely gets done for a second or third rounder.

 

[nikkig98]

You ain’t getting anyone unless it’s Collard or Steele and you would still be giving us more than Ryan.

Any young gun is off the table. This likely gets done for a second or third rounder.

i dont think theres a deal to be done here, just seems like random rumour. his agent has straight up called it no true

 

[SaintJunior]

Injured last two games

No wanted to qualify for Old Brighton VAFA finals so asked Sandy not to select him .

 

[joydivision22]

If Ryan plays 3 more seasons we could probably hope to get 40-50 games out of him as he ages off into the sunset. If anyone tries to tell me that those last few games from an injury prone player are worth anything more than a throw away pick - pls. A player!? Who an extremely promising 19yo Boxshall with 200+ games in front of him? Noooope 1st round pick Collard? Also 20yo.

If you want a player, it would be a Ryan Byrnes

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Ryan Byrnes

Age

24

Ht

181cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.0

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

2.0

4star

MG

1.0

1star

D

5.0

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

0.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

1.0

1star

D

5.0

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

3.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

2.0

4star

MG

1.0

1star

type player who would be a great pick up age wise for WC, best 22 for the forseeable future and would likely really benefit from wide spaces of optus (see Blacres, who was similarly limted). The gap in ability accounts for gap in games to be played.

Otherwise F3

 

[BrutThough]

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Lol people just making stuff up, Liam Ryans agency has denied this rumour

It's actually 5.

 

[stavro#4]

i dont think theres a deal to be done here, just seems like random rumour. his agent has straight up called it no true

It’s been spoken about for a few weeks.

And now concrete reports to an offer

 

[BrutThough]

I think we’ll ask for a player. Last thing we need is midrange draft picks.

We could send you guys our Ryan in a Ryan for Ryan trade.

 

[stavro#4]

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Lol people just making stuff up, Liam Ryans agency has denied this rumour

That doesn’t deny the interest.

It’s a very nuanced wording.

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Best 22 with the rumoured players and 5 man bench looks great:

FB Stocker Wilkie Tauru

HBF Sinclair Aleer Clark

C Windhager Steele Wilson

HFF Ryan Sharman Hall

FF Higgins King Marshall

Foll TDK, Nas, Phillipou

Int Macrae, Hill, Wood, Garcia, Owens

I personally would prefer Howard in Aleer's place, but will back the club

 

[nikkig98]

That doesn’t deny the interest.

It’s a very nuanced wording.

fair enough

 

[gubby88]

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Lol people just making stuff up, Liam Ryans agency has denied this rumour

of course its not true...

its actually 6 years

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Understandable but seems unlikely, we picked him at 45 and he's shown enough to be bumped up a fair way from that.

A looooong way from that

 

[stavro#4]

fair enough

To my point Nikki.

Timid Watson said it was a done deal.

The agency doesn’t deny the interest or a deal at play.

It specifically says a 4 year deal isn’t true.

 

[Broski]

Don't know about anyone else, but the Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

rumour doesn't tickle the pickle at all. Just can't see the Eagles letting go of a contracted player for unders, or why we would pay plenty for a 29yo who doesn't move the needle that much.

Maybe that's why I don't work in list management. I can see the potential benefits. But like any trade, my thoughts and opinions would be based around the price.

However, I am pleased that the club will look to be proactive in the player movement space over the next two seasons at least. Our foundations are fairly strong, so a few shrewd additions in key areas would hopefully improve us immediately.

Personally, even just having additional height across all lines would make a significant difference to the side and would remove the stranglehold that teams have had on us this season through intercepts around the ground.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Nas derangement syndrome.

Port Patriot was such a massive tosser.

 

[SinCitySainter]

The only way I see the Ryan deal making any sense is if Collard has requested a return to WA. We would want a late first or early 2nd for him and the Eagles would be unwilling to pay that as they need all the young talent they can bring in as that is now where their list sits. Collard for Ryan and a third might make sense for both parties.

 

[nikkig98]

To my point Nikki.

Timid Watson said it was a done deal.

The agency doesn’t deny the interest or a deal at play.

It specifically says a 4 year deal isn’t true.

Tim Watson also said we offered 25million for Harley though

 

[Aces High]

Hindsight is everything but it makes sense why Hill has been more up and down with his form this year if he's been dealing with all this extra stuff off field.

But what a great person he is.

Hilly, his impact on the club goes far beyond on field… seriously what a legend… so important in bringing the next generation through.

 

[stavro#4]

Tim Watson also said we offered 25million for Harley though

Agreed.

But per my first post he isn’t the only nor was he the first to report the interest.

It’s been around for a few weeks now

 

[SainterinSydney]

Agreed.

But per my first post he isn’t the only nor was he the first to report the interest.

It’s been around for a few weeks now

The old saying, where there is smoke, there is fire. The Reid and Ryan rumours have definitely not manifested from nothing.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Best 22 with the rumoured players and 5 man bench looks great:

FB Stocker Wilkie Tauru

HBF Sinclair Aleer Clark

C Windhager Steele Wilson

HFF Ryan Sharman Hall

FF Higgins King Marshall

Foll TDK, Nas, Phillipou

Int Macrae, Hill, Wood, Garcia, Owens

I personally would prefer Howard in Aleer's place, but will back the club

 

[nikkig98]

Agreed.

But per my first post he isn’t the only nor was he the first to report the interest.

It’s been around for a few weeks now

Yeah you're right there i spose

Just feel like this whole Nas saga has left me completely unbelieving of anything reported by journos aha

 

[thekizzler]

Yeah you're right there i spose

Just feel like this whole Nas saga has left me completely unbelieving of anything reported by journos aha

This is completely a fair enough opinion.

Nearly all of them masqueraded with news or informed opinion that wasn't correct on Nas.

 

[NAS THE GOAT]

The only way I see the Ryan deal making any sense is if Collard has requested a return to WA. We would want a late first or early 2nd for him and the Eagles would be unwilling to pay that as they need all the young talent they can bring in as that is now where their list sits. Collard for Ryan and a third might make sense for both parties.

There is no way Lance is worth a late first or early Second pick, he’s been a fringe player for us at best

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Tim Watson also said we offered 25million for Harley though

That stavro#4 .... is a fair point