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List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

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Liam Ryan seems like a strange one. I know he's been a very good player but he has kicked 30 goals in his career once and looks to be past his best. Definitely not the age demographic is expect us to be targetting.

What would his trade value be?


It's the age of the small forward and we have a really thin brigade. Ryan doesn't have to kick 50 goals, he needs to pressure and score against the flow. King deep, Sharman, Hall, Snags and Ryan and one of Butler/Hammer/Keeler/Collard/Henry, looks a really good potent line.

The back 6 is the most suspect line now.
 
It's the age of the small forward and we have a really thin brigade. Ryan doesn't have to kick 50 goals, he needs to pressure and score against the flow. King deep, Sharman, Hall, Snags and Ryan and one of Butler/Hammer/Keeler/Collard/Henry, looks a really good potent line.

The back 6 is the most suspect line now.
It'd look even better with Mitch Owens.
 

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It's the age of the small forward and we have a really thin brigade. Ryan doesn't have to kick 50 goals, he needs to pressure and score against the flow. King deep, Sharman, Hall, Snags and Ryan and one of Butler/Hammer/Keeler/Collard/Henry, looks a really good potent line.

The back 6 is the most suspect line now.
I just realised, you get to go full gringo next year and it’s going to be entirely justified - because the expectations are going to be equal to yours.

How exciting for you.
 
I just realised, you get to go full gringo next year and it’s going to be entirely justified - because the expectations are going to be equal to yours.

How exciting for you.


Nothing wrong with having high expectations. Amazing how pressure can elevate a side. Dogs after their captain walked out. Tigers after threats to spill the board and sack the coach etc.
 
Nothing wrong with having high expectations. Amazing how pressure can elevate a side. Dogs after their captain walked out. Tigers after threats to spill the board and sack the coach etc.
I’m on your side here.

Just pointing out you would be aligned.


Sidenote. Hopefully Liam Ryan is still “Flying” Ryan
 

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Actually I wouldn't mind sticking Owens into the defence. His kicking is iffy on goal but quite neat in the field. He'd replace Battle.
I wouldn't mind giving this a go at some point.

It would certainly improve our ground ball ability in defence, which has struggled this season with the inexperienced likes of Hammer, Tauru, Hastie etc.

Not sure it's his best position but could see it working out. He could even develop into a swingman like Blake Hardwick.
 
Next on St Kilda’s to-do list is secure the signature of midfield bull and valuable tagger, Marcus Windhager, who remains unsigned.

The midfielder told 7NEWS he’s just happy for Wanganeen-Milera and expects his deal to be done in good time.

“It’s great to have him stay, I’m moreso just happy for him, and hopefully all my stuff gets sorted out soon,” he said.


 
Honestly the biggest thing holding the club back isn’t even the list or gameplan but injuries.

We’ve put a decent amount of eggs in a glass cannon in Max King who could be the best player in the comp or never play again.

Genuinely get him right and I have no problems believing in the future even more than now.
 
Actually I wouldn't mind sticking Owens into the defence. His kicking is iffy on goal but quite neat in the field. He'd replace Battle.
He would be a walking free kick. Imagine that physicality on some of those softie forwards.
 

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If we get to the point that Steele and Macrae are depth players, we have arrived.
I can’t see how we play both with that potential list next year.



FWIW - if we do it, I’m kinda excited about adding Campigli and Voss 😳
 
Are we going to have to pay overs because Ryan is contracted at WC next season ? Same how Lyon said St.Kilda will hold firm on contracted players like Steele and Marshall ?
 
Wouldn’t you be better off getting his money off your books and getting time into a younger player. Not trying to be a smart ass but sos won’t give up anything good for him. Not a massive need so we would just walk away
We have more cap space than you can imagine and half our squad is under 22. Already have a ton of young small forwards.
 
Are we going to have to pay overs because Ryan is contracted at WC next season ? Same how Lyon said St.Kilda will hold firm on contracted players like Steele and Marshall ?
I think the context is misconstrued with this.

Ross was talking about contracted players who had no interest in leaving and clubs trying to turn their heads ala Geelong/Marshall because of TDKs pending arrival.

He wasn’t referring to players who might have the green light to explore options
 
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