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List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

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This is different. We are getting free agents.


Taking a huge hit to the cap for it. Still very uncomfortable with the TDK length and cost.

I think we do need to go hard over the next three years so probably need to trade in but I think it's looking extremely high risk.

I'd feel a lot better if we had Windhager signed on.
 
You'd say that it's either JSOS or Aleer, not both. JSOS older, more exposed form, and free. Aleer younger, higher ceiling, and would probably cost a future second at least.

Maybe the late interest in JSOS coincides with our interest in Ryan, as the pick we'd use for Aleer we could use in Ryan instead?

TDK, JSOS, and Ryan for the low low price of salary cap and a future second isn't bad business.
 

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its not happening without the loss of Marshall and windhager


Windhager going looks a massive step backwards. I'll be pissed off if we do. Marshall makes sense because you can't really play both.
 
This is different. We are getting free agents.
Beginning to sound a bit like Oprah though…..

YOU get a fat contract and a new jumper,
And YOU get a fat contract and a new jumper…

Etc
Etc
Etc
 
"it's crazy, we could only see it when we asked him to do the exact thing that made it hurt, who'da thunk it?"
But that flew directly against the previous doctor's instructions!

The previous doctor asked Max "what is wrong" and Max told him "it hurts when I do this!"

So the previous Doctor said "then don't do that!"............
 

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Taking a huge hit to the cap for it. Still very uncomfortable with the TDK length and cost.

I think we do need to go hard over the next three years so probably need to trade in but I think it's looking extremely high risk.

I'd feel a lot better if we had Windhager signed on.

But is it really a hit to the salary cap? None of us in here have access to the books. I'm not saying you are wrong, but we have been banking cap and we publicly said we could land two Callaghan sized deals and still keep Nas.
 
If it comes to a choice between Jack Silvagni and Leek Aleer, I think JSOS should get the nod. He is a free agent and a much better performed player than Aleer.

It means we could use the draft pick touted for Aleer somewhere else.
I rate Jack as a player, smart player, gives 100%, very underrated.

It’s the usual stuff he’s not his old man so the Carlton faithful were very critical, ironically sentiment seems to have turned over the past year and now he might leave.
 
Windhager going looks a massive step backwards. I'll be pissed off if we do. Marshall makes sense because you can't really play both.
Agree 100% with this. Shattered if we lost windy, but absolutely fine letting Rowan go. He’s been a great servant, but if he wanted to go to the Cats, good luck to him. I’m also huge on TDK though - genuinely think he will be a superstar of the competition next year.
 
You'd say that it's either JSOS or Aleer, not both. JSOS older, more exposed form, and free. Aleer younger, higher ceiling, and would probably cost a future second at least.

Maybe the late interest in JSOS coincides with our interest in Ryan, as the pick we'd use for Aleer we could use in Ryan instead?

TDK, JSOS, and Ryan for the low low price of salary cap and a future second isn't bad business.


I'd take JSOS if we really are chasing finals in the next few seasons. Aleer looks a long way off.
 

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Windhager going looks a massive step backwards. I'll be pissed off if we do. Marshall makes sense because you can't really play both.
Agree.
Bad move if we let Windy go, on a couple of counts…

We need to keep an original core together, and it’s only just started to happen in the last few seasons and it breeds loyalty and a strong group ethic

We need to keep a kid who has shown so much versatility and can get his own ball while stopping stars getting theirs

We need to keep a kid who is showing so much leadership when we have a dearth of it coming up. Not sure I see that as NAS just yet - seems very quiet.

And we need to not piss NAS off by shipping off one of his mates who is in the prime age group we need. Remember, we’ve only got a 2 year breathing space.

Most of all, I think we’re going to regret it as one who got away.

Marshall and Steele I’m not so fussed about.
 
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