List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[phantom13]

Yeah he can just nominate for the PSD. Just like Ball did. He was pick 31 coz everybody understood he wouldn’t go anywhere but Collingwood.

Not remotely the same situation at all.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Absolutely, no brainer there. Bassdog where you at mate

Youve got his number dont you? Go take him out to dinner and put a few wines in him to get him talking.

 

[littlecreatures]

I'm finding it excruciating. Finally getting one of the best players in footy but fretting about him leaving constantly. It's like cosmic punishment following St Kilda. Just when anything looks positive we manage to end up back on our arses.

Let go off all expectations Gringo. You’ll feel much better

 

[MC_Gusto]

Staying

 

[Joffaboy]

I'm finding it excruciating. Finally getting one of the best players in footy but fretting about him leaving constantly. It's like cosmic punishment following St Kilda. Just when anything looks positive we manage to end up back on our arses.

Just shows what I have been saying for months, we are not allowed to get good top 10 players.
They say, you need to pick better at the draft, so we get a match winner at pick 11 and we are about to get shafted.
The NGA and FS have destroyed any chance we have of accumulating matchwinners.
Say we get pick 5 ad one of the picks for NAZ, that turns into pick 9 or ten as all the excellent draftees are given to the fake northern clubs for nothing.
The AFL just has tied a hand behind our back and even if we are good, it gets taken from us with shit compo.
Just about done with the corruption of this league.

 

[StCicatriz]

StC, look at everything that the club has done for young Nas. Save from offering him a deal to be the highest paid player in existence before he broke out (which still might not have been enough based on the lack of activity now). Revisionist history and hindsight is great, but none of us, not even SOS could see the impact he would have over the last 6 weeks and the media beat up that would ensue.

Thats part of being a list manager. To understand when you offer big money on potential growth to keep them out of their last year of their contract or when you need to offer more to be a point of difference to clubs who reside in his home state.

We offered big money to king to keep him wasn't an issue then.

But suddenly were playing it conservative with NAS. Cmon.

 

[StCicatriz]

So according to some, we should renege on our offer to TDK of $1.7m. And do the same for Aleer and his $700,000.

And then add that $2.4m to the $1.4m or so we’ve already offered Nas.

He can then tell his mummy he’s staying at the Saints on $3.8m p.a. as he hands her the keys to her new Lamborghini.

Then we sack SOS and head to the mystical land of everlasting flags.

Did anyone actually suggest any of this

 

[Parkysp]

True, but when we picked up Collard, and not Logan, we had as Third Tall Marking Options, Membrey, Sharman, Owens and Pou. Plus also Caminiti and Keeler.

Lions have picked very well, but you can full understand why we went for Collard, and not another Third Tall Forward.

We are screaming out for a roving small forward. We need to keep trying.

 

[StCicatriz]

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Tend to agree with ross

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

Did anyone actually suggest any of this

 

[BigPowerForward]

Me be like

 

[stfan]

We are screaming out for a roving small forward. We need to keep trying.

Just as well we are chasing Tex now

But yes we need all bases covered.

 

[Ads734]

Right now battle.

But guess what we could have had both! Which is an important point given they're playing opposite ends of the ground at times which should be our plan

Tauru has potential and loads of it but we are miles off him playing anywhere near the consistent level battle did and is.

Now we are spending roughly the same money on aleer. Plus hoping we can turn potential into the actual. Taking on all the development risk. How do we know the Viking won't go to another club like battle did?

I hope he can get there.

Honestly I don’t think he’s mikes off. Tbh I think he’s 20 games and a solid pre season.

His closing speed and ability to spoil is rediculous. Countless times I’ve been shocked at how he’s managed to get a gist in. His marking within 4 games is already improving.

As I’ve said multiple times I’d just play him forward.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Let's just make sure we sign up the right Tex considering Nas' issues with one Tex

 

[_Maximus_12]

I would love us to go after Joe Berry at the same time as keeping Nas.

 

[Captain Paddy]

I would love us to go after Joe Berry at the same time as keeping Nas.

Raiding Port and keeping Nas is peak shithousery

 

[SainterinSydney]

I don't blame RTB being prickly to the press, to be honest (just watched today's presser). The press treat our team with disrespect, negativity and love to punch down on us. They would love for Nas to leave. They can all get $%^&ed.

 

[littlecreatures]

I don't blame RTB being prickly to the press, to be honest (just watched today's presser). The press treat our team with disrespect, negativity and love to punch down on us. They would love for Nas to leave. They can all get $%^&ed.

Agree, I thought it was a tad disrespectful IMO. Steele playing his 200th who’s been captain of the club for however many games, and all they want to talk about is how he was sub last week (to manage his load).

 

[_Maximus_12]

Raiding Port and keeping Nas is peak shithousery

Even a late 4th for Whitlock and then delist him in 12 months just for a laugh

 

[StCicatriz]

Honestly I don’t think he’s mikes off. Tbh I think he’s 20 games and a solid pre season.

His closing speed and ability to spoil is rediculous. Countless times I’ve been shocked at how he’s managed to get a gist in. His marking within 4 games is already improving.

As I’ve said multiple times I’d just play him forward.

You think he's 20 games off being the third best defend in the comp. Right.

He looks a good 3 seasons away from being consistent

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Watching the presser over the last couple of weeks Ross is so f**king done with the ****ing smooth brain AFL media.

 

[littlecreatures]

You think he's 20 games off being the third best defend in the comp. Right.

He looks a good 3 seasons away from being consistent

Josh Battle is the 27th rated key defender in the AFL (he’s nine places in front of Caminiti) according to official AFL player ratings - https://www.wheeloratings.com/afl_stats.html?comp=afl&season=2025

 

[topbillings]

Well at least Higgo’s trying his best

It's bad enough he's going to upset over 64,000 members. But upsetting Higgo is unforgiveable. Have you no shame!

 

[MightySaint]

Tried to do an objective exercise of which 20 players, in order, I'd want the club to keep for next year. Mostly gut feel but I tried to take into account potential, injury history, age, etc.
Harder than it looks. Definitely not what i would have thought the order would be before I wrote it down.
1. Nas
2. Pou
3. Viking
4. Hall
5. Owens
6. Garcia
7. Wilkie
8. King
9. Sinclair
10. Wilson
11. Higgins
12. Boxshall
13. Trav
14. Sharman
15. Windy
16. Dodson
17. Hammer
18. Marshall
19. Henry
20. Hastie

King ended up higher than i would have thought. Trav and Windy lower than i would have predicted.

 

[Ads734]

You think he's 20 games off being the third best defend in the comp. Right.

He looks a good 3 seasons away from being consistent

If anyone thinks Battle is the third best defender in the comp then spare me.

Weitering
Taylor
Wilkie
Andrews
Stewart
SDK

But yes I don’t think Taru is that for off.