List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion - part 2

[jwikked]

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Pretty sensible stuff. Would have given Stocker 2 years, but 1 is fine

 

[Sully111]

Howard, Keeler, Dow, Stocker and O’Connell all have signed a one year deal.

Excellent

 

[SainterinSydney]

More would need to go. Like potentially Webster retiring.

Incomings: TDK Aleer Ryan FRP Fincher

Paul Amy practically saying we are taking Campigli and looking at Voss.

+ Ted Wanganeen

Sorry, forgot to say Webster as well. Maybe Schoey and Moose will be up for trade? I assume both have value though Dees may wait for us to delist Moose

 

[jwikked]

Good to see the Secret Service dude there looking after our investment!

Does security often patrol training?

Seems pretty crazy

 

[Broski]

Does security often patrol training?

Seems pretty crazy

I would if I had a $2m per year asset running around

 

[SainterinSydney]

I would if I had a $2m per year asset running around

Young Guy #6 and Port Patriot could jump the fence

 

[austinnn]

When you see highlights of Nas so many of the deft touches that set him up are from Windhager like that one two pass. If Nas is a lead guitarist he's the bass player holding it together.

You just gave me another reason to love Windy!

 

[stavro#4]

Young Guy #6 and Port Patriot could jump the fence

Oh man I hope it gets announced that Academies and father sons are in the bin for the first round.

Would be delicious to see more melting of our new friends.

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Young Guy #6 and Port Patriot could jump the fence

Hard to do when you can't leave the house and are crying into your cornflakes. Be nice !

 

[Southeastsainter]

I’d hope Arie gets another year, I think he needs to not be a defender. Could be a weapon as a half forward if he builds his tank and his marking improves. Lot of ifs but hopefully gets another year

 

[XhazzafootyX]

And I don’t think we are that interested in Voss

 

[jwikked]

I’d hope Arie gets another year, I think he needs to not be a defender. Could be a weapon as a half forward if he builds his tank and his marking improves. Lot of ifs but hopefully gets another year

We've got plenty of athletes who can't kick, why would we want to remove the guy who isn't an athlete but can kick?

Give him a chance to improve, he hasn't had much of a run at it.

 

[SaintlyHymns]

More would need to go. Like potentially Webster retiring.

Incomings: TDK Aleer Ryan FRP Fincher

Paul Amy practically saying we are taking Campigli and looking at Voss.

+ Tex Wanganeen

If Webster retires Voss nearly needs to be a lock. Defends really strongly in back half, can lock down dangerous smalls but can also take a mark. Beautiful distributor by foot. Think he'd be an upgrade on Stocker.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Oh man I hope it gets announced that Academies and father sons are in the bin for the first round.

Would be delicious to see more melting of our new friends.

A few of them already appear anxious about access to this kid

 

[akaifu]

Good to see Dougal amongst the first wave of changes

Means the club is confident he'll be a contributor next year

Was worried we'd let him go due to age and injuries

 

[Broski]

A few of them already appear anxious about access to this kid

I work for South Adelaide on match days and I have never seen a more dominant kid at U16 level. Literally has had to play a few games at U18 level. Would love Port to have him stolen from his grasp lol.

 

[thekizzler]

Could Henry play half back? I feel like he could really do with having some easy ball and he's very clean.

Particularly with Ryan it's worth exploring.

Heard worse ideas.

He played some decent footy for Freo on the wing/half back.

Question marks would be over his ability to defend

 

[Ekomaira]

A few of them already appear anxious about access to this kid

 

[ronnysnodgrass]

When is the tv rights deal up? I suspect the next one will be worth much less money, given they (likely) wont have Foxtel coming to the table for the next one.

Can’t see Stan(channel 9) paying that sort of money either.

Can see the caps going backwards in the next 10 years

I think you can count Amazon, Paramount and Apple (maybe even Netflix) in as new bidders here and DAZN the new owners of Foxtel value sports very highly. I doubt the cost of the rights goes down, I would guess it's up by about 20% based on what's happening overseas.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Can someone open up the GWS v Saints thread? Remember we still have a game to play

 

[Bill Crouse]

Good news DougalHoward. I look forward to seeing your pirouettes again soon

 

[topbillings]

When is the tv rights deal up? I suspect the next one will be worth much less money, given they (likely) wont have Foxtel coming to the table for the next one.

Can’t see Stan(channel 9) paying that sort of money either.

Can see the caps going backwards in the next 10 years

The current rights deal expires in 2031. Considering how much has changed in the media landscape in the last 5 years, it's completely impossible to predict what the marketplace will look like in 2031. Foxtel coming to the table will greatly depend on DAZN, who bought the company for their sports properties (because the widely held belief, worldwide, is the only way to make money in streaming in 2025 is through live sports). The partnership between Foxtel and DAZN has only just begun, so we have no way of knowing what that will look like in 5 years time.

I'd be more worried about free-to-air television and whether it still has a place in the sports media landscape OR the money to compete in 2031. There is some hope that streaming advertising (on platforms like 7plus, 9Go) will offset the losses on free-to-air - but the major FTA channels are still facing an uphill battle. Channel 7 only posted $17 million in profits (on an over $1 billion dollar investment) the last financial year - which was a 63% drop from the year before. Traditional TV seems to be dying.

My guess is the next rights negotiations will be dominated by streamers (as we've seen with all international sports) and it's likely the entire AFL fixture will be paywalled from 2031 onwards.

 

[jwikked]

I think you can count Amazon, Paramount and Apple (maybe even Netflix) in as new bidders here and DAZN the new owners of Foxtel value sports very highly. I doubt the cost of the rights goes down, I would guess it's up by about 20% based on what's happening overseas.

DAZN are trying to get out of the current deal that is already signed, given they don't value it.

Can't see any of the others bidding as high as Foxtel used to, but maybe I'm wrong. It has little international appeal

 

[Lightsxo]

I would have given Stock a 2 year deal personally. Not sure what more he has to do.

I suppose there is minimal risk another team will poach him but still feel for the guy.

 

[tony74]

I would have given Stock a 2 year deal personally. Not sure what more he has to do.

I suppose there is minimal risk another team will poach him but still feel for the guy.

Liam only ever wants a 1 year contract. He feels very comfortable with that approach. 100% his choice.