List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[stavro#4]

Glad to mend bridges stavro#4

It’s very desperate

Imagine finding out your Mrs was with another bloke and then offering to buy her a brand new diamond ring for her to come back


Anyway. He stills ends up with you. Hurry up and get trac aswell so we can deal for Cmac

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Imagine finding out your Mrs was with another bloke and then offering to buy her a brand new diamond ring for her to come back


Anyway. He stills ends up with you. Hurry up and get trac aswell so we can deal for Cmac

Only if Trac comes

 

[Joffaboy]

Moving on both Marshall and Steele is a risky move, could be an absolute culture killer.

Rubbish. What culture? One of a final every five years?
They are both contracted. Can stay if they wish, can go if they wish. But not for peanuts.
Nobody is pushing them out.

 

[hangdog]

Might come to the Saints now Webster is retired

 

[Obss]

All these comments and I’m starting to think I’m in the minority that thinks losing Marshall would be a bad play, i don’t think the at most late teen pick would be worth it at all.

 

[stavro#4]

 

[John2010362340]

Moving on both Marshall and Steele is a risky move, could be an absolute culture killer.

Out of curiosity, what culture are you referring to? Without sounding rude, their tenure over last decade, take those 2 years out from Steele, have been average to good. It’s definitely not a winning culture they’ll be killing.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Can you imagine C Mac sending an absolute dart of a kick to JUH next year? Stuff of dreams

Stuff of nightmares.

 

[stavro#4]

Only if Trac comes

Essendon playing smart and protecting Merrets value tonight.

He just needs to nominate you and Cmac comes into play

 

[hangdog]

He actually looked alright at times this year. Don't want him but he showed some of his genuine talent this year.

Why on earth would you watch a North game, let alone several?

I'd rather watch pimple popping videos

 

[TheJackal]

Wont lie, Flanders nominating us would have me a hell of a lot more excited than I was when I heard TDK, JSOS, Leek or Ryan news.

I hope whoever said we have had him sewn up since June was on the money. Give me that dopamine hit NED!!

 

[Joffaboy]

Desperate

So their best player is on under 700k after year? Are they having a laugh?

 

[austinnn]

This is overrated to be honest. The club is now being driven by Nas & Co. they’ve created their own culture. The culture that Steele and Marshall drove had us in no man’s land. Mason Wood and Brad Hill are more integral to our culture

Absolutely agree, I've been banging this drum for years now. Remnants of the She'll Be Right Ratts era in my eyes.

For all their positives, they took us nowhere as cultural leaders.

 

[mighty_sainters]

Sam Mitchell uses his wife to recruit, Ross should be utilising Maki and that fried rice

 

[austinnn]

So their best player is on under 700k after year? Are they having a laugh?

Not many from that bag of shit that anyone ahould pay more for, but compare Zach's salary to McKay's

 

[austinnn]

Desperate

F Me this is some sad sorry shit.

I dont think I've stopped laughing since I saw it

EDIT: and how's Hirdy shoving in that Sam Mitchell 2011 story for literally NO reason except a flailing attempt to try and get his old club back a bit of dignity against Hawthorn

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

So their best player is on under 700k after year? Are they having a laugh?

Nah he’s on 850… this was an additional bribe spread over 2 years.

Bumps him up to something like 1.1

 

[sauce_head]

On SEN trade bell they were claiming that Wilkie's missus said that the money offered was too good to turn down from the Dogs on a group chat. At least they aren't running with that.

Lol. He can go get it in two years when he is out of contract then!

 

[hangdog]

All these comments and I’m starting to think I’m in the minority that thinks losing Marshall would be a bad play, i don’t think the at most late teen pick would be worth it at all.

There's more of us agreeing with you. But we're being drowned out by people enamoured by a shiny draft pick in a weak draft that will end up in the early 20's.

 

[hangdog]

Sam Mitchell uses his wife to recruit, Ross should be utilising Maki and that fried rice

頂きます!

 

[sauce_head]

They just have to be willing to force them to stay. As has happened before.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Out of curiosity, what culture are you referring to? Without sounding rude, their tenure over last decade, take those 2 years out from Steele, have been average to good. It’s definitely not a winning culture they’ll be killing.

It looks like captains of 3 other clubs are also looking to move, so the times they are a-changing - for better or worse. “Culture” and loyalty of players are a thing of the past. The only loyalty is that of members of clubs.

My feeling is that if contracted players want to move, clubs should be able to do the same thing - trade contracted players.

Contracts are not worth the paper they are written on, but it’s only fair it works both ways. And if players want “to go home”, all well and good, but that means to their home state, not their pick of club.

 

[Joffaboy]

Nah he’s on 850… this was an additional bribe spread over 2 years.

Bumps him up to something like 1.1

Yeah just watched it. They didn't learn from the Saints last year. Lowball someone and then up the amount when it is too late.

 

[austinnn]

There's more of us agreeing with you. But we're being drowned out by people enamoured by a shiny draft pick in a weak draft that will end up in the early 20's.

You dont get it. The pick isn’t the reason. Similar situation to Members last year, and I'd say if we can't find out a new home for Steele this year, he'll probably get moved out in the same in the same way the following year, and I'd imagine all list managers from the other clubs know it too.

 

[Gavinmitchell11]

I hope we don’t get Flanders to be honest. He’s not a damaging player, and we already have plenty of not damaging players. CMAC would be better but concerning he can’t break into a not too deep Hawthorn midfield after 3 seasons.

Finn Callaghan is the exact player our team needs, grew up bayside, perfect age and decided to stay with GWS. How could he do that? Why would he do that?