List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 3

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[kyrgios]

Everyone is talking about Butts now. It's 2025

I like big butts and I can not lie

 

[nikkig98]

Anyone with half a brain can see he will be a dog in about a months time.

Look we're all mates here, but I will find a way to bring charges if he doesn't nominate the dogs

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

I like big butts and I can not lie

Yep its definitely 2025, as in you can share this stuff openly.
Keep it in the bedroom, or the not so well lit public dunny.
Thanks

 

[Mr Clunk]

Anyone with half a brain can see he will be a dog in about a months time.

mate. legit. are you ok?

 

[Armoooo]

mate. legit. are you ok?

I've made peace with everything

 

[ronnysnodgrass]

Let me just start this with, I love Wilkie and I think he's one of the best additions we have ever had.... so please understand my preference is to keep him as he is clear captain material and has been an absolute general for us in the back line over the last few years....

BUT......

the likely addition of JSOS and Aleer (different experiences, skills sets all that) feels a lot like we are overly strong in that specific role / skill set / position.

So I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some legs to this rumour (looking at the whole chess board)

And at a personal level at his age (he's only f-ing 30ish) that kind of money does set you up for life (and this is their job don't forget) so lets see.

Heart wants to keep him, head says if there are any legs to the kind of deals on offer, this might be the "painful choice" we have been warned about......

 

[Jade Buddha]

It’s the annual 2010 saints old boys catch up day today. Lyon will be there. I have a man on the inside. If there is any good goss il let you

Sounds good. Perhaps mic him up.

 

[kernelT]

How do I become a moderator on this forum, I will do a better job at cleaning out the trash

Give the keys to geez plz Chief

 

[Mindfury]

Why are we still talking about Wilkie when literally every source worth a damn under the sun has said there's zero chance he leavees?

because two dudes in the main board thread won't shut the fuque up about it

 

[Mindfury]

anyone even mentioning steven may

1

Steven May

Age

33

Ht

193cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

307.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

378.4

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

in relation to st kilda needs to report to kumon immediately

 

[austinnn]

I thought it was 'happy Clappers' versus 'Nappy Crappers'

Whereas most of the Bulldogs fans here are Nappy Clappers

 

[gringo2011]

You are the one claiming people were 'happy', my man, not me and you might be able to find one or two 'happy' but that's not an accurate reflection and there is 0% chance you will find many.

I saw plenty of posters that were willing to let him go if there was a huge gap in what the club valued him and what he wanted. Including myself. That doesn't mean they were happy for him to go. I would have been extremely disappointed if he left. But if he had left for big money, it wouldn't have been the end of the world, like if Nas or Wilkie left.

That was literally the most common argument other than 'he must stay or the club will implode'. Claiming otherwise is a lack of comprehension.

Come on man. You nutters were on one thread talking up the genius of paying $millions to TDK and Aleer then sooking it up and wanting him frog marched for wanting an extra couple of years and a couple of hundred thousand. To cope you all bagged his output and wrote off any future growth.

All opinions are valid but at least own your shit. Maybe you're actually the negative one after all and you just can't admit it to yourself.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Let me just start this with, I love Wilkie and I think he's one of the best additions we have ever had.... so please understand my preference is to keep him as he is clear captain material and has been an absolute general for us in the back line over the last few years....

BUT......

the likely addition of JSOS and Aleer (different experiences, skills sets all that) feels a lot like we are overly strong in that specific role / skill set / position.

So I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some legs to this rumour (looking at the whole chess board)

And at a personal level at his age (he's only f-ing 30ish) that kind of money does set you up for life (and this is their job don't forget) so lets see.

Heart wants to keep him, head says if there are any legs to the kind of deals on offer, this might be the "painful choice" we have been warned about......

Bulldogs definately want Wilkie
Yes, you would think the money & security offer is inticing for Wilkes
But
Wilkie has allegedly said to RTB that he doesnt want to leave & he's under contract till the end of 2027 anyway.
And the biggest hurdle for the Bulldogs is to give us anything of benefit, as they are almost certainly not going to give us any of their stars,
E.g. bont, darcy, richards.
But,
if they do?

 

[gringo2011]

I dont reckon its far off TBH, i think the personel is all there we just need them to continue to develop and define their roles.

Its all really well balanced with good defensive pressure players and spread, ball winners and run and carry. Weve even got an out and out boneafide Star in NAS (and potentially another with Pou).

Realistically Garcia, Phillipou, Wilson and Boxshall types need to get up around 100 games to be really solid reliable 25 game a year players. At their age and level of experience it's a lot to expect them to perform at absolute top level every week and carry the bulk of the midfield load.

Macrae, Steele, Dow, Clark, Windhager, Jones etc are the mature guys still on the list now. Nas and Hall can and will play plenty of midfield minutes but to pull them permanently up loses us player at either end of the ground and a fair few listed can't play a secondary position.

It looks like we really need one more good mid to push through but the future is also looking better than it has since it looked like Stuv, Dunny and Seb were going to be an elite set up.

 

[austinnn]

Everyone is talking about Butts now. It's 2025

How long before people are posting links to the vid of Sirmixalot's seminal nineties hit and making out that its Bevo saying the words?

I've got to admit I'd have done it if I could be bothered

 

[thekizzler]

Come on man. You nutters were on one thread talking up the genius of paying $millions to TDK and Aleer then sooking it up and wanting him frog marched for wanting an extra couple of years and a couple of hundred thousand. To cope you all bagged his output and wrote off any future growth.

All opinions are valid but at least own your shit. Maybe you're actually the negative one after all and you just can't admit it to yourself.

This is untrue and you simply can't prove it otherwise

At no stage did I ever say anything even close to what you are talking about it

Get off the 'delusion glitter', big boy

 

[bergholt]

Everyone is talking about Butts now. It's 2025

 

[gringo2011]

No way would you be banking on Flanders & Mackenzie to be A grade mids
Freijah is a Lipinski type, handy but not A grade material.
Richards is the A grader with explosive run
He would have to be involved or forget it.

Freijah looks like a very promising kid but promise can turn sour quickly.If our plan is to attack finals this coming season we really need Wilkie. Another project kid to add to our huge pile isn't going to make a lot of sense. Probably just holds out a kid like Boxshall. I think I'd rather push games into Box to be honest.

 

[gringo2011]

This is untrue and you simply can't prove it otherwise

At no stage did I ever say anything even close to what you are talking about it

Get off the 'delusion glitter', big boy

You are a hater. Number one Windy hater on the entire internet I believe. I'd ban you from this thread to be honest. Negative people are a downer.

 

[thekizzler]

Realistically Garcia, Phillipou, Wilson and Boxshall types need to get up around 100 games to be really solid reliable 25 game a year players. At their age and level of experience it's a lot to expect them to perform at absolute top level every week and carry the bulk of the midfield load.

Macrae, Steele, Dow, Clark, Windhager, Jones etc are the mature guys still on the list now. Nas and Hall can and will play plenty of midfield minutes but to pull them permanently up loses us player at either end of the ground and a fair few listed can't play a secondary position.

It looks like we really need one more good mid to push through but the future is also looking better than it has since it looked like Stuv, Dunny and Seb were going to be an elite set up.

This is a decent take, IMO.

Plenty of options going around, plenty of improvement to be had, plenty of way to go until it's a gun midfield capable of success.

 

[thekizzler]

You are a hater. Number one Windy hater on the entire internet I believe. I'd ban you from this thread to be honest. Negative people are a downer.

I would never ban you, if I was boss.

I love interacting with you too much

 

[SaintersUnite]

Hearing Sincs is perplexed with how the club is handling its list management and will ask to be traded to Port.

If he doesn’t get his wish he’s going to go nuclear and claim the kit man routinely groped him after games.

Heard it from his postie on a Discord chat.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

whats happening with marshall and steele anybody know

Allegedly,
Marshall gone to Geelong
Steele to any club that wants him.
Same ol, same ol
Oct. 3rd to 12th
Will tell all

 

[austinnn]

I like big butts and I can not lie

There it is.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Time to check out the Wilkie thread .... wish me luck