List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[akaifu]

I meant more do you think we will still take him in the PSD?

GWS still want to keep him and have offered him a deal albeit on less money. I think he stays but that's just a guess

 

[stavro#4]

 

[SainterinSydney]

Really hope this doesn't turn into Xerri 2.0.

I agree, though, definitely not worth a future second.

 

[TheJackal]

Wait, I have an idea.

Marshall, F3 for F1 & F2

Geelongs F2 for Leek & F2.

That way GWS get their F2 that they were after. Happy days.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Good call Saints

 

[bird_man]

I did say it made no sense chasing Aleer once we had Silvagni. Good move.

 

[puppy_dog7]

Feel sorry for Aleer though.

Not a good look on the club either. Once you get a player to nominate you you should get the deal done unless it's unrealistic. Obviously if Giants weren't going to budge on a future 2nd then thats fair enough. But if were just pulling out cos we now don't need him then thats not a good look.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Dare say there’s something else cooking

 

[Armoooo]

Really hope this doesn't turn into Xerri 2.0

My thoughts exactly.

 

[heynow85]

I have a bad feeling now about Steven May

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Steven May

Age

33

Ht

193cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

10.5

4star

HB

4.2

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

307.3

4star

D

15.5

4star

K

12.1

5star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.4

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

378.4

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

, just as I have had the whole time about Mason Cox

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Mason Cox

Age

34

Ht

211cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.7

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

3.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

.

 

[sauce_head]

Fellas, they can get all this done in 1 week.

Aleer, Marshall, Steele etc.

It’s like bold and the beautiful up until the last 48 hours.

Totally agree with that. I just quite like that there is a bit of hard ball negotiation being played out in public!

But, yeah, a three day trade period would be much better.

 

[SainterinSydney]

Dare say there’s something else cooking

I agree. Maybe there is a big fish.

 

[sauce_head]

Feel sorry for Aleer though.

Not a good look on the club either. Once you get a player to nominate you you should get the deal done unless it's unrealistic. Obviously if Giants weren't going to budge on a future 2nd then thats fair enough. But if were just pulling out cos we now don't need him then thats not a good look.

I think this is part of the process, but had similar thoughts. Walk him to PSD as somebody else pointed out.

 

[The Jack]

Pretty poor tbh if we had made the commitment to him.

Our name will be mud with his management group.

Feel a bit sorry for the long onion.

 

[_Maximus_12]

of the players we’ve been tied to this offseason, Aleer is/was the most speculative.

 

[projectv]

Pretty poor tbh if we had made the commitment to him.

Our name will be mud with his management group.

Feel a bit sorry for the long onion.

We should never have offered him that much money in the first place.

Better to rip the bandaid off now instead of 2-3 years into his deal.

 

[ThomasR]

No...we've commited to those 2 so that has to be honored

I would have thought so... but apparently not. not a great look. I wasn't keen on Aleer but I do feel sorry for him. fingers crossed he finds a nice landing spot or we have made GWS improve their offer at the very least

on the previous list spot discussion, that's effectively one more spot available - so maybe we are actually serious about retaining Marshall and not just posturing. no real need to move him on now provided we can shift one of Butler or Steele. ball is back in Geelong's court. can always revisit Aleer if the Cats pay up

 

[The_Steadier]

They want a future 2nd

That's ridiculous

**** off

We're offering to pay him circa 700k x4.
That's not chump change (despite the recent 25% salary cap increase)... so clearly we don't think he's steaknives.

F2 isn't all that far off the mark if we are ok with spending an F3.

But I don't think the trade pricetag is the issue at all.

I think we have been looking for a way to worm out of signing him since the day we landed jsos.
We've been into aleer for ages- and jsos landed in our lap late.

We've got the cap space for both, but with jsos in- aleer has gone from 'essential' to 'nice to have'.

We don't need to spend 700k a year on 'nice to have'.
Especially when we have the flying viking to play in his exact same spot on 100k.

Us baulking at gws asking for F2 is just us trying to make them the scapegoat.

FYI- Aleer will be fine, he's had plenty of other clubs interested.
Sure, he probably wont get the 700k x 4 we promised him, but he'll be fine.

 

[bird_man]

Pretty poor tbh if we had made the commitment to him.

Our name will be mud with his management group.

Feel a bit sorry for the long onion.

Depends what the back story is.

If Giants were pushing for anything more that a third rounder then in makes sense to walk away.

If the decision was because we realise he's not a need after signing Silvagni then it should have been dealt with weeks ago.

In the end, the right decision was made, but could end up looking pretty bad if it was the latter.

 

[NAS THE GOAT]

Who’s gonna do the honours of going to the Pugs board and tell them they are welcome to our unwanted scraps

 

[Hayes4PM]

Pretty poor tbh if we had made the commitment to him.

Our name will be mud with his management group.

Feel a bit sorry for the long onion.

Cuts both ways though, the guy couldn't get a game until this year when he decided to leave, they then pump some games into him with other players injured and ask for too much come end of season. Bit cheeky. Paid 7 for a contracted Flanders, we're not averse to paying when required.

 

[projectv]

Who’s gonna do the honours of going to the Pugs board and tell them they are welcome to our unwanted scraps

I already suggested it over on the trade board. The usual suspects are 50/50 on it between laugh emojis and offering to trade with the Giants for him.

 

[projectv]

Ngl very ****ing happy not to get Ryan or Aleer lmao.

TDK and Flanders and one of Jsos/Aleer is priority.

Ryan never made sense to me and Leek now feels superfluous.

afaik we're still in for Ryan?

 

[HeavenlySources]

Marshall + F3rd (that was going to be for Aleer) for SDK

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

It’s ok GWS we’ve plugged the leek.

So we've plugged a vegetable