List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[SnapShotHiggins]

Don’t know about Higgins. Seen far too many times he’ll kick a goal and not a single player will get around him. It’s very weird

You’ve gotta be joking obviously you don’t watch footy close enough one of the most popular players within the team!

 

[jwikked]

You’ve gotta be joking obviously you don’t watch footy close enough one of the most popular players within the team!

Seen it happen plenty of times. It’s obvious once you’re looking for it.

I’ve seen him kick goals that get the crowd pumping and no one around him does anything. Like I said, very weird stuff

 

[austinnn]

yet dogs fans say that's big overs

Of course they do.

If he was out of contract and we were happy to move him on, maybe. Dogs fans think that because a player wants out, its the selling club's obligation to take a fair trade, or even one with a little sweetener for the buying club.

They are proposing to take the most dependable defender we've had in over a generation, AA last year and in the conversation for multiple years including this one, b&f winner, vc, never injured or benched. 2 years left on his contract and would never dream of leaving, were it not for a ridiculously inflated (TDK/JOS-level) contract. Leaving our defence this much short for next year, maybe many years.

And they expect a FAIR trade?

 

[Joffaboy]

I like Higgins as much as you do lol, just pointing out something weird I’ve seen on field over the last few years

No he is correct, you should leave

 

[kyrgios]

Don’t know about Higgins. Seen far too many times he’ll kick a goal and not a single player will get around him. It’s very weird

gone!

 

[Saints4ever]

The club have told Marshall that he is required for day one of preseason unless Geelong meets our asking price.

The stance is the same as it’s always been. Roma has asked for the move.

Wilkie & Steele similar

Are you saying Wilkie would happily leave if we was satisfied with the deal?

 

[Fehring]

Are you saying Wilkie would happily leave if we was satisfied with the deal?

Yes, that's how i read the comment too! Has Wilkie said he wants to go?!

 

[St Steady]

quite a few here need to "check themselves"

i think tonight will be a love fest of mamoth proportions

 

[Saints4ever]

Yes, that's how i read the comment too! Has Wilkie said he wants to go?!

I’m pretty sure there’s nothing the dogs are willing to give up that we would be happy with.

It does worry me that Wilkie would consider leaving though.

He’s heart and soul. You don’t trade heart and soul players.

 

[_Maximus_12]

No issue going into next year with Dodson and Keeler as back ups.

We’ve had a state level fall back plan the last few years and not only have the wasted a spot on the list but they’ve also limited the development of our young project players. Expose Dodson to the number 1 ruck role at VFL level and he’ll be ready when we need him.

 

[Joffaboy]

Are you saying Wilkie would happily leave if we was satisfied with the deal?

I read it as 'if Wilkie asks for a trade' he will be at day 1 of Saints preseason training if the Saints don't get the trade they want.

 

[austinnn]

If anybody with a ticket gets close enough tonight, please try to arrange an arm wrestle between the bulked up Trav and the wasted-away Ming. Time to end all the speculation. No broken bones, though, please.

He got all these shoulder injuries in the first place from his last arm wrestle with Jack Lonie a few years back, time to let him heal.

 

[kick it lace out]

Happy for Marshall to go to the cats but ONLY for SDK in return.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Are you saying Wilkie would happily leave if we was satisfied with the deal?

Yes, that's how i read the comment too! Has Wilkie said he wants to go?!

I read it as the club is expecting all three to be there Day 1 pre-season. They’re all contracted, afterall.

 

[Saints4ever]

I read it as 'if Wilkie asks for a trade' he will be at day 1 of Saints preseason training if the Saints don't get the trade they want.

Thanks i’m much happier with that.

I have a dogs mate and I’ve been saying for weeks he’s 100% a saint next year and I’m not even worried.

Misreading that post was my only slight worrying moment.

 

[Goddardwetrust]

Josh Gabelich on Sen.

Flanders wants all 4 contract offers with his manager before deciding a club.

Thinks Melbourne is the favourite to land him

But I thought we had popping champagne emoji.

 

[bakes10]

No issue going into next year with Dodson and Keeler as back ups.

We’ve had a state level fall back plan the last few years and not only have the wasted a spot on the list but they’ve also limited the development of our young project players. Expose Dodson to the number 1 ruck role at VFL level and he’ll be ready when we need him.

Keeler struggles in the ruck but if TDK and Dodson were injured he could give it a go but hopefully he gains strength in the offseason because he was too easily manhandled.

This may be a weird opinion, but I wouldn’t mind seeing if Liam O Connell can jump. He’s only 190cm but he could play a Blicavs (or James Blake) type role to relieve ruck in short bursts. I think he can be an old school utility and play anywhere.

 

[Mr_R0b0t]

Theo Drop said on Triple M that St Kildas public stance on Marshall is very different to their private stance and that if St Kilda publically say they want to keep Marshall that’s news to Marshall because of what’s going on behind closed doors.

The art of negotiations, to increase the value in something is to limit the availability of the same thing.

 

[saintbill]

He got all these shoulder injuries in the first place from his last arm wrestle with Jack Lonie a few years back, time to let him heal.

Lonie would rip King's arm out of his socket.

 

[hangdog]

wtf is this

Oh great. We sign up Nas to millions and suddenly he can't kick

 

[gringo2011]

Keeler struggles in the ruck but if TDK and Dodson were injured he could give it a go but hopefully he gains strength in the offseason because he was too easily manhandled.

This may be a weird opinion, but I wouldn’t mind seeing if Liam O Connell can jump. He’s only 190cm but he could play a Blicavs (or James Blake) type role to relieve ruck in short bursts. I think he can be an old school utility and play anywhere.

Aleer can't defend but he can jump like a kangaroo. Maybe he could chop out.

 

[austinnn]

wtf is this

Simply riveting content yeah

 

[Joffaboy]

Just saw Max being wheeled into the B&F. No injury, just too weak to walk.

 

[austinnn]

I'm flying there next year on flight 2027

Hope its better than the road to 2018

 

[hangdog]

I’m starting to think if any of these Roma stories are true (had NO idea TDK was coming, now this) he might actually be dumber than he looks, and the big fella has a single digit IQ lid on him.