List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[Yawkey way]

The Bulldogs are not a serious club. Proven with the Wilkie debacle. A joke and amateur.

Reappointing Bevo wasn’t the smartest thing to do, looks to me like that premiership has guaranteed him a job for life.

 

[St Neil]

I think it might drag out with demons involvement

Don’t think so.

Gold Coast need to move Flanders on regardless of the Petracca thingy. For salary cap, list spots, and opportunities for their increasing number of nepo lads who need to play.

And Flanders wants Saints. He won’t play anywhere else.

Melbourne will just have to suck it up. They also need to move Petracca on now.

 

[St Neil]

7 and butler for Flanders and Ainsworth?

We are running out of list spots.

 

[Mindfury]

The Bulldogs are not a serious club. Proven with the Wilkie debacle. A joke and amateur.

I'm starting to think Ameet was not the strategic genius we previously believed him to be...

 

[ronnysnodgrass]

Heard Rowell

Would be a dream that feels a little too far away tbh, but OMG if even 5%......

 

[Hysteria]

With all of our expected Free agency and trade news coming in a flurry in the first week.
I look forward to the absolutely ridiculous and unhinged suggestions on here as to who else we can get as we become increasingly bored and greedy over the next two weeks.

 

[Joffaboy]

I'm starting to think Ameet was not the strategic genius we previously believed him to be...

Bains is weak and shafted Chris Grant because Grant disagreed withn Beveridge.
Beveridge is way more powerful at that club than Lyon will ever be at the Saints.
The Wilkie debacle was completely instigated by Beveridge who ran roughshod over Power.
When it wrnt belly up as Power said it would, don't be surprised if he gets blamed.

 

[SainterinSydney]

I'm at the AFLW game in Marrickville. Bumped into Jesse Hogan

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Jesse Hogan

Age

30

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.0

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

0.0

1star

G

0.0

1star

D

13.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

6.4

5star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.8

5star

--good bloke. I asked that he take it easy on us next year and he laughed in a humble way and said, "i think you guys are going to be pretty good!"

 

[Linton Street Saint]

Not sure who it is I’m hoping Humphrey lmao

If it's Humprey's and it happens, honestly my head will explode.

 

[Yawkey way]

I can see the club being stubborn.

EDIT: Also, Curnow trade to Cats looks to have some legs. They can't do both.

I can’t see how they get Curnow, Holmes ? they just don’t have the picks or players really.

What would you ask for Curnow ?

 

[Sainter88]

I'm at the AFLW game in Marrickville. Bumped into Jesse Hogan--good bloke. I asked that he take it easy on us next year and he laughed in a humble way and said, "i think you guys are going to be pretty good!"

Ask him if he wants to join too #imaginarystkildacap

 

[saintbill]

I can’t see how they get Curnow, Holmes ? they just don’t have the picks or players really.

What would you ask for Curnow ?

They would have to give up this years 1st, next years first and a player I reckon. Possibly Stengle?

Something tells me Blues are sick or Curnow. Doesn't sound invested. No spring chicken anymore.

 

[marcus1232]

I can’t see how they get Curnow, Holmes ? they just don’t have the picks or players really.

What would you ask for Curnow ?

i actually don't know his value.

He regressed this year for sure.
But he wasnt alone at carlton in that

 

[Sheepey]

Interesting tidbit in that photo shown earlier

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It's good to see that, at the very least, there's no bad blood between them. I'd say that helps us in our negotiations with Geelong.

 

[nikkig98]

The NMFC trade board is pretty much a spin-off of the st kilda board cause theyve got nothing to talk about over there
This particular point is something i found hilarious.

 

[Minga]

Going to be some serious vertical leaping prowess at the Saints next year.

Aleer, Sharman, Pou, Ryan, TDK, Tauru. High flyers on every line.

Even Hastie, NAS and Wilson have a big leap on them.

Wilson actually won the highest running lead at the draft combine, just haven't really seen him fly for his marks yet.

Agreed, plus:

• Owens
• King
• Collard
• Keeler

 

[Curunir]

Really hope we can keep Marshall, we will be far too reliant on King staying fit to make the top 8 if we lose him. We'll be too small up forward again if he can't get on the park.

Even if Marshall kicks say 25 goals, he would free up Sharman and Owens. Could see Sharman kicking 40+ and Owens 30+ if they had a bigger forward next to them.

 

[Saints TV]

 

[g_TRAIN]

Surely King has to have some luck with injuries next season.

 

[Speck]

The crows have nothing
No picks
And won't give up half decent players

F2 so easily gets Steele done. Macrae was pick 45 and it would be similar.

 

[SG34]

….

Part of modern footy is having a bunch of part timers who run through there - so one of your starting 3 is always a part timer. Every single one of those above has a second position. Then you add in Sinclair, Hall, Wilson, Trav.

The biggest problem with Steele is that he doesn't really have a second position……

I disagree with this, respectfully of course.
I don’t think top teams have only two mids and part-timers, and
I think you are saying we have two mids and the rest part-timers.
Steele was the bomb in 2020-2023 and no part-timer.

There are those that play both, Pretracca, Danger, Dusty, and the former are mids come forwards, the latter the reverse, where they add value to their primary role. they are not emergency fire fighter mids.

Sincs is an emergency mid. NAS - well that’s an evolving story. Hunter Clark did much better when he returned to a flank and Hunter was one of those ‘hopes’ we had for a mid.

I think modern top teams have more than two genuine top class mids and part-timers.

It looks to me like we, have (in no order) MacCrae, Garcia, Windy, Steele, Jones, Pou, The Box, Dow, Henry? Carrol?, and NAS (if we assume he is to be mainly a mid) I put the Pou in there as he is only a temporary forward (unless he becomes a Jack Billings)

 

[nikkig98]

I'm not sure if I'm overreacting or not, but I wouldn't think much of Ollie's reputation if he has been trolling with Dan about us getting Flanders.

We can never doubt Ollie ever again, the man is the real deal, hasnt been wrong yet. Old man media officially has no clue

 

[Tommy Wigs]

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The NMFC trade board is pretty much a spin-off of the st kilda board cause theyve got nothing to talk about over there
This particular point is something i found hilarious.

I don’t disagree particularly, but the getting younger while getting a bit better, plus all of the medium term benefits is big

 

[BrutThough]

The Bulldogs are not a serious club. Proven with the Wilkie debacle. A joke and amateur.

They give best and fairest votes in their practice matches. Wilkie barely scratches the surface in ways they are amateur.

 

[Hysteria]

Just popped over to the Essendon board to see the reaction to the band 2 compo for Draper.
Kind of sad really. They are so beaten down over there they can hardly muster the energy to get fired up over it.