List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[Geary Is GOAT]

I can't remember giving less of a **** about a first round pick tbh.

If it's a straight swap for our 7(12ish) then whatever.

We've hit the draft hard the past few years and come away with some good kids + we're bringing in mostly guys in their early or mid 20's this trade period. Missing out on the top end of a weak and compromised draft isn't the end of the world.

 

[bird_man]

He had a delayed start to this year & they played him forward...he's a mid/ half back

As I said in my post, there are reasons for it...

But it doesn't change the fact that he is a 24 year old that has had one really good season and half a really good season in the midfield.

His best is very good but it's such a small sample size it's impossible to know whether that's how he can perform long term

 

[phantom13]

Yeah completely agree, the swap of thirds or whatever always just seems like dick measuring from the list managers. May as well just get the deal done and move on to the rest of our business.

100% weve got a bit to get done, get em moving

We'll get something back if Butler goes there

Sure, not against it but think getting the deal done is the most important thing.

 

[True Believer]

Pick 7 is worth more to the Gold Coast than it is to us.

They're using it on Zeke Uwland and his mates at the nepo factory, regardless.

Which annoys me slightly - we're making things a lot easier for GC, we could have pushed a bit harder.

Yes, but they've also agreed to let go of the "Nepo Babies" thing and our draft night tweet to Ben King.......

 

[SainterinSydney]

Imagine you campaigners at the start of the season if you were told by year's end that we would have TDK, JSOS and Flanders and all we gave up was pick 7 (to be downgraded). The cream would have flowed!

And we aren't even done yet!

 

[saintmike65]

Like wise would love him at Saints

GC don't need him...Lombard in the same boat, very similar players

 

[projectv]

Given we're paying what appears to be overs for Flanders, we better not cave and take a shit deal for Marshall. Take them to the cleaners Gubby.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

I can't remember giving less of a **** about a first round pick tbh.

If it's a straight swap for our 7(12ish) then whatever.

We've hit the draft hard the past few years and come away with some good kids + we're bringing in mostly guys in their early or mid 20's this trade period. Missing out on the top end of a weak and compromised draft isn't the end of the world.

How do we bid on Fincher now should be the question
If we can get a pick/points back from GCS to help with that, then that's what could happen still.

 

[saintmike65]

Imagine you campaigners at the start of the season if you were told by year's end that we would have TDK, JSOS and Flanders and all we gave up was pick 7 (to be downgraded). The cream would have flowed!

And we aren't even done yet!

I've always liked Flyin Ryan too!

 

[Klaatu]

West Coast are just posturing with Ryan. He will get done.

Ryan was even given permission to do a physical at Moorabbin weeks ago.

Their list manager is a goose. Talking up a big game.

I agree but we can't give them a bag of peanuts either, can we

 

[SainterinSydney]

The first question to Leek Aleer lol:

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[Saintscomemarchingin]

I agree but we can't give them a bag of peanuts either, can we

F2

 

[Flandersss]

I agree but we can't give them a bag of peanuts either, can we

 

[gubby88]

I agree but we can't give them a bag of peanuts either, can we

Pretty sure thats frowned up these days

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

As I said in my post, there are reasons for it...

But it doesn't change the fact that he is a 24 year old that has had one really good season and half a really good season in the midfield.

His best is very good but it's such a small sample size it's impossible to know whether that's how he can perform long term

Swap the name Flanders for Max King and same said yet he is on 1.3m

 

[bird_man]

Swap the name Flanders for Max King and same said yet he is on 1.3m

First I heard of that one

 

[Armoooo]

It's highly likely Stocker is a VFL footballer for the most part in 2026.

Stocker is probably our 35th best player going into next year, but he's probably still starting 18

 

[Mstr Strokesman]

For the millionth time, there wasn't a way we could make room for the mid-season draft lol.

Literally none without the benefit of hindsight - which you know...doesn't exist at the crucial time.

A player like Max King could have been placed in long term injury list to make room
Yes I understand then the problems that brings too

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Stocker is probably our 35th best player going into next year, but he's probably still starting 18

Bring on 'The Voss'
Booming accurate kicks out of the backline, aka B.Goddard

 

[TheJackal]

Does it really matter if 7 ends up 12? You’d more than likely pick the player you wanted at 7

Whilst true, its still the 12th best player in the country in an average draft.

 

[TheJackal]

Bring on 'The Voss'
Booming accurate kicks out of the backline, aka B.Goddard

I'd love to see him picked up, his Dad was a very underrated player - late developer too.

 

[St Neil]

I agree but we can't give them a bag of peanuts either, can we

No. We won’t. But he’s not worth a heap either, even though he is contracted.

 

[Speck]

Get the feeling we're doing Gold Coast a bit of a favour here to move their Petracca deal along. Not common to see a deal like this agreed so early without the usual posturing.

Would not surprise me if there's some later pick swaps with them once they've sorted the rest out.

 

[bird_man]

Stocker is probably our 35th best player going into next year, but he's probably still starting 18

Think you clearly under rate the guy. He's a very good footballer in his role.

 

[St Neil]

Get the feeling we're doing Gold Coast a bit of a favour here to move their Petracca deal along. Not common to see a deal like this agreed so early without the usual posturing.

Would not surprise me if there's some later pick swaps with them once they've sorted the rest out.

I agree.

Or there is another deal to be done where they look after us.