List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part V

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 5

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[True Believer]

A Carlton supporting coworker bet me $50 that Carlton would finish higher next year. I couldn’t shake his hand quick enough. Bring on 2026!

Could you please put me in touch with him?!

 

[Minga]

Kinda crazy the live draft order top 11 as it stands is:

1. WCE
2. WCE

3. RICH
4. RICH

5. ESS
6. ESS

7. MELB
8. MELB

9. CARL
10. HAW
11. CARL

Obvs bidding and stuff will mess up the patterning

Anyway, here’s hoping this years draft is truly a dud.

 

[tony74]

If we were willing to do it for an acceptable price, then why not hold out for a better deal or walk him to the PSD ? How did it take us until halfway through the trade period to realise a) we don't have the picks for him and b) he was surplus to requirements? That's what I mean by amateur.

If we have reneged when we signed Silvagni I don't think anyone would blame us. Again right end result but we've come out of it looking poorly.

Theres always a little bit of information that the media and supporters are not privy to. It may come out eventually but probably better left unsaid

 

[Remboy]

My eyes are moist

Class.

 

[True Believer]

Theres always a little bit of information that the media and supporters are not privy to. It may come out eventually but probably better left unsaid

That reeks of a late season RTB appraisal setting a revised price cap !!

 

[Remboy]

A Carlton supporting coworker bet me $50 that Carlton would finish higher next year. I couldn’t shake his hand quick enough. Bring on 2026!

You should be able to collect on that by the end of June.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Looking very serious there, where's the trademark smile?

 

[Remboy]

Looking very serious there, where's the trademark smile?

He’s still pissed off for not being traded.

 

[SaintSteele9]

Chipping in on recent discussion points:

- Byrnes over Jones and Ari for me. If Byrnes is our 23rd selected man, our side is in good shape I think. Don’t see Ari making it and I’ve seen enough Jones for one lifetime.

- Aleer remained at GWS despite plenty of time after we pulled out for others to swoop. No lost sleep on this one. Lots of possible moves fell through too. S*** happens but as the dust has settled I don’t think it’s as bad PR as it seemed initially re: future reputation/dealings.

- Happy for Steele despite losing him. Very happy Marshall stays.

- Go you f****** Saints in 2026

 

[dougiemac]

They should, but for Geelong as they shouldn't have been going for breaches of contract so there has to be something shifty there, what with their financials...

If I were Roma I would be pissed off at Geelong's weak offer and crap tactics. Forget 'em mate, you're too good for them.

 

[Remboy]

Is that true everyone else is gone from then?

To be fair, most teams that have been in the bottom half for most of the last six years would be similar.
I remember crossing out players on my 2010 GF poster when they left. It didn’t take long for half of them to be crossed off. My co-working Collingwood supporter did the same and it was virtually the same for them. Teams can’t stand still. Turnover is an essential part of growth.

 

[ESPN8 The Ocho]

My eyes are moist

All class.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

If I were Roma I would be pissed off at Geelong's weak offer and crap tactics. Forget 'em mate, you're too good for them.

He's still recieving 50 lashes for being a bad boy & wanting to leave

 

[gubby88]

He's still recieving 50 lashes for being a bad boy & wanting to leave

no wonder he wanted to leave, the salary cap at saints is so stuffed, they are paying him in beer! thanks to the good sponsors at Thirsty Camel i guess...and who says 3rd party payments dont work!

 

[The_Steadier]

I'm so bullish on what Marshall and De Koning can do together. Plonking Marshall at full forward is going to be a luxury. If the mids can get on top then Marshall, King and Sharman with Ryan, Higgins and whoever else gets in at their feet can be a really dangerous forward line.

Liam Henry should be the ideal third guy buzzing around with ryan and higgo at their feet.

 

[PostmanBish]

If I were Roma I would be pissed off at Geelong's weak offer and crap tactics. Forget 'em mate, you're too good for them.

If I’m Rhys Stanley I pray to be injured when RoMa and TDK are next up … reckon RoMa will be ready to show them EXACTLY what they let slip …

 

[saintbill]

I'm so bullish on what Marshall and De Koning can do together. Plonking Marshall at full forward is going to be a luxury. If the mids can get on top then Marshall, King and Sharman with Ryan, Higgins and whoever else gets in at their feet can be a really dangerous forward line.

We seem to have depth on every line now. Caminiti and Howard fighting it out. A bunch of kids like Box and Hugo that want to get in the team. Trav and Hastie should get better. Tauru. Pou.

So excited for 2026.

The following is absolutely possible:

40+ goals - King, Higgins, Sharman
30+ goals - Owens, Ryan, Marshall
20+ goals - Hall, Pou

This won't be an easy forward line to match up on.

 

[saintbill]

My favourite was the nuffy who said that the AFL needs to look into why we refused to trade.

They are wildly overrating picks over there. Couldn't grasp it's a poor draft either.

 

[Minga]

Liam Henry should be the ideal third guy buzzing around with ryan and higgo at their feet.

If there’s one position I’m interest to see how we develop it’s our small-mid fwds:

Higgins
Butler
Ryan
Collard
Said
Henry
Owens
Hall (/mid)
Pou (/mid)

Butler and Ryan at the tail end of their careers as premiership winners.

Higgins a top 3 small forward of the comp.

Hall & Pou will probably rotate mid and forward, could even throw a player like Wilson in here also he’s absolutely a scoring threat.

Owens a lock as a true mid sized forward.

Henry a big question mark but if he comes on then he could be best of the lot.

And then that just leaves the development of Collard and Said who have a lot to work with.

All King/Sharman and Marshall/TDK will have to do is bring it to ground.

 

[The_Steadier]

That reeks of a late season RTB appraisal setting a revised price cap !!

Cuddly Ross is dead and buried.

Dictator ross took one look at aleer in the final and declared:

Not overly upset about this turn of events, full dictator mode ross got us to grand finals.

 

[nikkig98]

The following is absolutely possible:

40+ goals - King, Higgins, Sharman
30+ goals - Owens, Ryan, Marshall
20+ goals - Hall, Pou

This won't be an easy forward line to match up on.

We need to average 13.5+ goals to have any chance of making the 8, probably simple as that. Seeing as we averaged 11.7 with the poor line we had this year, this could be huge. Even Adelaide with their so called "3 headed monster" only averaged 14.3, so this could be massive for us if they all stay fit.

 

[gubby88]

 

[The_Steadier]

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It's pretty clever the way they sell merch with charlies real life injuries.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

My favourite was the nuffy who said that the AFL needs to look into why we refused to trade.

Whilst they’re at it they should also look at why the Saints didn’t trade Hastie to the Cats, even though neither club, nor the player in question, sought such a trade.

 

[gringo2011]

He a uniball operator??

I reckon. One giant nad type configuration. Bunches it up and stuffs it down the front of his Y-fronts.