So who is out starc replacement then?
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IF Starce leaves we won't be getting anyone in that will be as good as him at the role. We already have guy/s on the list who can do as good of a job as anyone we will be able to get.
FWIW Budarick has requested a trade to the Dogs.
If Starce does leave I believe we need to bring someone in to fill that role, even if it’s as a mature ager through the draft. Lot of attacking players down back but without Starce and Noah for at least half the year, those dangerous small forwards could get hold of us.
Unless they think Brain / Beecken is ready for this role perhaps?
If Starce does leave I believe we need to bring someone in to fill that role, even if it’s as a mature ager through the draft. Lot of attacking players down back but without Starce and Noah for at least half the year, those dangerous small forwards could get hold of us.
Unless they think Brain / Beecken is ready for this role perhaps?
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Or McKenna goes back again. Even give Kiddy a role as he works his way back
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It’s a lions issue that we can’t match the financial terms of either player. Cal would have preferred to stay here.
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Exactly this. If we offered Cal the same money he is staying.
When players weren't getting paid or were getting paid peanuts, I can understand why it was a big deal when players left the team. I had a teammate as a junior that left our team and it did feel like he betrayed us. We were the best side in the comp, so the only thing that came into his thought process was wanting to not play with our team anymore. We took that personal because it was personal.
But it being players livelihoods and a chance to significantly make their and their families life better changes things. An understanding that if Cal wasn't good enough we would have cut him without a second thought. It's all good to say that it isn't like they aren't getting really well paid regardless but when you're talking differences of 1 or multiple times an average salary it has to come into your decision making. The guys that are role players like Cal aren't going to go into the media and earn lots of money because of their reputations as players or end up as high paid brand ambassadors etc. He needs to make the money while he can.
Well yeah exactly. My point.
I kinda agree BUT Tasmania has $3 million in the first year and $2 million in the second year, outside the salary cap, for a sign on bonus. We are going to loose 1 for sure. Let's say Aschroft/Morris have 3 premierships then gets offered a $1 million sign on bonus with a second $1 million the next year - thats outside the salary cap. Then at the same time they are getting $2 million a year in the salary cap. We need to minimise what they can take like Gary Ablett to the Gold Coast. Even if we have a 2 level list ourselves, let's call it the Pro's and the Draftees and are not carrying mid level players on long contracts not playing regular seniors.
If I was Tassie, it's the Lions I'm coming after, great culture, continued success, great habits etc and players already achieved continued success that will move for a big, once in a life time, offer.
A few clubs and definitely ours will be losing a star to the Devil.
No player is knocking back a $1,000,000 bonus.
Offer a Million dollar bonus to each of Will Ashcroft, Nick Daicos, Finn Callaghan and Harley Reid and see who bites.
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Someone from within the club I'd imagine. Answerth is out for part of the season but he'll assume the role on the oppositions best small once he's back. One of Bruce, Lester, Doedee, Brain Beecken etc will replace him in the interim you would think. They're all pretty handy options.
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I think Ah-Chee and Starcevich leaving could/will be good for the Clubs success in the long term.
The cap usually does not allow clubs to keep a good team together for too long.
The draw makes it harder for top 6 teams to stay top 6 the following year
We are lucky in 2026 that we will be able to bring in another youngster being noted as a top 10 pick
Just need to find another Morris, Gallop diamond in the draft or pick up another experienced role player in trade period.
Depends a little on what we end up with after delisting, trading and the draft.
At present the likely ins and outs
Out: Ah-Chee, Starcevich & Dev
IN Allen, Draper and Annable
Rehab group: Payne, Hipwood, McCarthy, Answerth, Berry (shoulder), Dunkley (shoulder and ankle)
???? on McInerney, Coleman, Doedee
Possibly some others getting minor fixes that we don't know about yet.
These are apparently our present draft picks. Taken from BF main board. Total Points at present 1522
Pick 5 points needed for 2026 are 1795
The cap usually does not allow clubs to keep a good team together for too long.
The draw makes it harder for top 6 teams to stay top 6 the following year
We are lucky in 2026 that we will be able to bring in another youngster being noted as a top 10 pick
Just need to find another Morris, Gallop diamond in the draft or pick up another experienced role player in trade period.
Depends a little on what we end up with after delisting, trading and the draft.
At present the likely ins and outs
Out: Ah-Chee, Starcevich & Dev
IN Allen, Draper and Annable
Rehab group: Payne, Hipwood, McCarthy, Answerth, Berry (shoulder), Dunkley (shoulder and ankle)
???? on McInerney, Coleman, Doedee
Possibly some others getting minor fixes that we don't know about yet.
These are apparently our present draft picks. Taken from BF main board. Total Points at present 1522
Pick 5 points needed for 2026 are 1795
From those in the rehab group McCarthy, Berry, Dunkley, Coleman and Doedee should get in a decent chunk of pre season training and be available early in the season... albeit you would think after such a long time out Linc, Kiddy and Tom will need a few games in the VFL to get up to speed.
Bruce would be a decent shout, though I'd imagine he could be better suited to replace Ah Chee. Lester already in the defensive set up and won't play Starc role. Doedee, Brain and Beecken have shown nothing to me to suggest they can adapt to Starc shutdown role when given the chance.
Let's hope they can develop as the Lions will be struggling to hold the prime small forward/resting mid once Starc leaves if those are the names you can provide.
Out of that list Bruce is the only one I would consider capable albeit needs a lot more time to hone his defensive craft. Unless Doedee can find his prior form when he was at the Crows but im not holding my breath.
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When have they been given the Starce shutdown role?
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Met Matho after the QF. Seems like a really down to earth bloke. Basically saying how he's just one of us now, just a massive fan.
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Not a big fan of Gerard Healy but he makes a lot of common sense here >
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dr...s/news-story/417b1f890d4ced2cbf12fea0e9cdb1c6
The NGAs in theory were designed to bring new players from diverse backgrounds to the system, but in the 12 years of its existence not one has been added. Not one!
And yet in that time players like Isaac Quaynor, who played for Victoria throughout his junior years, through to Isaac Kako last year, who also has been in the system ever since his early years, have been plucked by clubs simply because they’re in their zones.
Add the names of Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Marcus Windhager, Mitch Owens, Mac Andrew, Buku Khamis and many more and you can see how distorted the draft has become - because they should all be in it, and not just a bonus pick for the lucky club.
None of these players were added to the system; they were already in it.
I’ll spell it out loud and clear.
If you’ve been in the system through your development years, you are ineligible for NGA status, no matter your cultural heritage. No more rorts that kill the draft.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/dr...s/news-story/417b1f890d4ced2cbf12fea0e9cdb1c6
The NGAs in theory were designed to bring new players from diverse backgrounds to the system, but in the 12 years of its existence not one has been added. Not one!
And yet in that time players like Isaac Quaynor, who played for Victoria throughout his junior years, through to Isaac Kako last year, who also has been in the system ever since his early years, have been plucked by clubs simply because they’re in their zones.
Add the names of Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, Marcus Windhager, Mitch Owens, Mac Andrew, Buku Khamis and many more and you can see how distorted the draft has become - because they should all be in it, and not just a bonus pick for the lucky club.
None of these players were added to the system; they were already in it.
I’ll spell it out loud and clear.
If you’ve been in the system through your development years, you are ineligible for NGA status, no matter your cultural heritage. No more rorts that kill the draft.
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Did you at least get some trade value on the deal?
Pretty sure he railed against them on SEN a few months ago, and specifically called out how they were set up to appease the Vic clubs.
This might have been it - I was listening live, and it was gold (yay, finally someone "got it"!):
If only others held the same view
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