List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion

[knaf]

Does Joe Danihers backyard count as a bush league?

Fingers crossed

 

[irel]

Not participating in the MSD.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1331220/final-draft-order-your-clubs-picks-for-mid-season-rookie-draft

 

[Jivlain]

Does Joe Danihers backyard count as a bush league?

This bloke does not miss! honks horn

 

[wantok]

Linc was an essential and integral component of our club getting to current status. It was cruel that he missed out on a premiership. Shutting his door to even a remote chance would be un-Fagan like. What position are we in desperate need to fill with a MS pick? Is there a player out there that could come in and make us better?

I'd like to think that we would choose culture over a speculative pick this year. Pass.

Linc certainly is an important part of our Club. Not suggesting delisting rather placing him on the long term injury list to use the spot then relisting in the end of season draft.

 

[Nickimus Rex]

Linc certainly is an important part of our Club. Not suggesting delisting rather placing him on the long term injury list to use the spot then relisting in the end of season draft.

The issue with this is that Linc has taken specific experimental surgery designed to get him back on the park before September. Would be awful if he was fine then was inactive.

 

[StevoJenkins]

Read on Fox Footy's mid-season update that McCarthy is likely to get a year extension into next year.

Wouldn't be against it. Others might be a better source for this one, but don't we have a Charlie/McCarthy successor in the academy in the 2026 draft? Makes sense to keep McCarthy on for at least next year if this is the case.

 

[M Malice]

Read on Fox Footy's mid-season update that McCarthy is likely to get a year extension into next year.

Wouldn't be against it. Others might be a better source for this one, but don't we have a Charlie/McCarthy successor in the academy in the 2026 draft? Makes sense to keep McCarthy on for at least next year if this is the case.

2025 draft, Raphael Geesu.

 

[dlanod]

Read on Fox Footy's mid-season update that McCarthy is likely to get a year extension into next year.

Wouldn't be against it. Others might be a better source for this one, but don't we have a Charlie/McCarthy successor in the academy in the 2026 draft? Makes sense to keep McCarthy on for at least next year if this is the case.

Fair enough. He's probably a candidate to drop to the rookie list too, to free up a spot and possibly continue to rehab depending on how his surgery went.

 

[Berrygood]

Looks like the southern clubs, especially St Kilda are coming for the northern clubs academy's. If in the future we have further restrictive or limiting access to the kids we put time, effort and money into, is it possible the academy set up is disbanded?

I'd hate to see that happen. Without these academies the kids don't get the quality of football that the Afl states get in school and local club football. Qld, NSW, kids will not get the development they need to progress. Short sighted and very petty in my opinion.

 

[Perrip]

Twomey connected us to Jamie Elliott on Gettable today....

"I'm keeping a really really close watch on if the Lions can get into that discussion."

 

[Nuggo]

St Kilda are the new Bulldogs, serial complainers. It is only that the doggies have had all of these father sons that they have gone quiet. NRL are on a push to be a global organisation/competition and if that happens they may be offered more in broadcast rights and hence pay players a lot more than AFL. This will turn a lot of the best young athletes to NRL - better money. Academies are encouraging young talent into AFL - if Melbourne clubs shut down academies then in my opinion it will send the competition backwards. In saying that I thought the package deal Gold Coast got was way too hot.

 

[Tom14]

Twomey connected us to Jamie Elliott on Gettable today....

"I'm keeping a really really close watch on if the Lions can get into that discussion."

Translation - Elliot's manager is looking to squeeze an extra $50k out of collingwood.

 

[Perrip]

Translation - Elliot's manager is looking to squeeze an extra $50k out of collingwood.

Exactly, I'd be surprised if he ends up here. Though Cal's reasoning does make sense

 

[StevoJenkins]

Looks like the southern clubs, especially St Kilda are coming for the northern clubs academy's. If in the future we have further restrictive or limiting access to the kids we put time, effort and money into, is it possible the academy set up is disbanded?

I'd hate to see that happen. Without these academies the kids don't get the quality of football that the Afl states get in school and local club football. Qld, NSW, kids will not get the development they need to progress. Short sighted and very petty in my opinion.

What a lot of the AFL clubs fail to realise is that it's not like Northern academies will always push out elite talent. Our academy has only had 2 (soon to be 3) top 20 prospects. 3/4 if you include Marshall. And it's not like we draft many other players after these. The rest of the high draft picks have come from the Gold Coast.

I've seen a lot of supporters from other clubs incorrectly including Fletcher and the Ashcroft's in the academy rorts, which is wrong, but they'll keep pushing these together. St Kilda have pushed academies and father-sons together and want clubs to only be able to pick one player from either per draft.

It's a bit rich from the Saints, who themselves have drafted 4 players from their NGA over the past 5 years. Not to mention that they have the advantage of being in Melbourne.

Twomey connected us to Jamie Elliott on Gettable today....

"I'm keeping a really really close watch on if the Lions can get into that discussion."

When will he tour the grounds?
How many cameras will be there?
What deal can he extort from Collywobble?

In all seriousness, the guy is 32. Why play him when he'd only take a spot from Kai, Charlie, Ah Chee or Rayner?
We need a couple of proven tall forwards, a young tall defender, a developing ruck and a young small forward.

 

[Ceebee]

Twomey connected us to Jamie Elliott on Gettable today....

"I'm keeping a really really close watch on if the Lions can get into that discussion."

He was connected to us last time his contract was due . I guess he got his extra money then so trying the same tactic .

 

[Perrip]

In all seriousness, the guy is 32. Why play him when he'd only take a spot from Kai, Charlie, Ah Chee or Rayner?
We need a couple of proven tall forwards, a young tall defender, a developing ruck and a young small forward.

That's why it confused me that we are the club connected to him. Twomey mentioned him as a replacement to Linc, but we already have Linc's replacement in Kai.

 

[Tom14]

Exactly, I'd be surprised if he ends up here. Though Cal's reasoning does make sense

I haven't listened yet but obviously we were interested in 2018 (I think?). Does not make much sense now given his age.

 

[StevoJenkins]

That's why it confused me that we are the club connected to him. Twomey mentioned him as a replacement to Linc, but we already have Linc's replacement in Kai.

The thing is, according to Fox footy, we don't even see Kai as a Linc replacement, because we are apparently offering Linc another year.

Makes zero sense as to why we'd want Elliot again.

 

[Perrip]

I haven't listened yet but obviously we were interested in 2018 (I think?). Does not make much sense now given his age.

This is what Twomey says in the segment:
Zero Hanger

As a result, a watch has been placed on reigning premiers Brisbane, and if they "reignite" their pursuit of the crafty forward.
"Nearly landed at Brisbane in 2019," AFL Media's Cal Twomey said.
"We all remember the shots of him touring the Gabba. He was close to going there but ended up re-signing with the Pies.
"I'm keeping a very close eye on Brisbane reigniting its interest in Elliott. He spent time living in Queensland as a kid, before his AFL career kicked off.
"May harbour ambitions to head there post career as well, and spend some time up there.
"The Lions have Lincoln McCarthy, out of contract, coming after back-to-back ACLs, so I think they'll be looking to upgrade that position.
"Jamie Elliott is available. He's had interest in the past. No contract offer from the Pies."

 

[Nuggo]

The thing is, according to Fox footy, we don't even see Kai as a Linc replacement, because we are apparently offering Linc another year.

Makes zero sense as to why we'd want Elliot again.

Maybe Elliot has learnt how to Ruck lol

 

[Section 5]

Twomey connected us to Jamie Elliott on Gettable today....

"I'm keeping a really really close watch on if the Lions can get into that discussion."

Can he ruck?
beat me Nuggo

 

[martinson]

Why would we want Elliot now ? He'll be 34 in 2026.

Don't think we're that stupid are we.

 

[M Malice]

Jamie Elliott very good player but hard pass from us, too old for our age profile and plays a position we have covered for the time he would have left in the game.

 

[Clarkythelion]

Translation - Elliot's manager is looking to squeeze an extra $50k out of collingwood.

Thats what they did last time when Elliot came up for contract in 2019. They even flew him up for a 'tour' of the facilities. thought we got used back then.

 

[Denno]

The issue with this is that Linc has taken specific experimental surgery designed to get him back on the park before September. Would be awful if he was fine then was inactive.

Was it experimental surgery, or standard surgery, with a view to turbo-charging his rehab?