List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion

[gringo2011]

Hard to get players if they don't want to come, but fmd he's probably the best player in the league suited to our current list.

Perfect example tonight, Briggs up against Grundy... but Finn basically won that game for them in the premiership quarter tonight.

There's no way he signed for $700k less per year (than our offer) without 'AFL assistance'.

What could've been... instead we'll end up spending our first pick on pick 15 after all of the bids come through - wouldve preferred that to go towards Callaghan.

Ironically he said that the massive offer would have put him under too much pressure. We scared him off with money.

 

[gringo2011]

Not necessarily that relevant to recruitment but I genuinely think missing out on Callaghan on huge money isn’t that big of a deal. You have your own Callaghan at home.

Windy is going through the same progressions as Finn did and will have his breakout into the top echelon of players in the comp next year.

I reckon Garcia might be the one that goes up to an elite level. Windy is progressing like some of the very good mids but we are an impatient supporter base.

 

[CaptainRisky]

I reckon Garcia might be the one that goes up to an elite level. Windy is progressing like some of the very good mids but we are an impatient supporter base.

Garcia with another 5-8 kg of muscle is going to be a hard man to stop, he has a massive upside IMO

 

[sainter7]

I reckon Garcia might be the one that goes up to an elite level. Windy is progressing like some of the very good mids but we are an impatient supporter base.

Hope so. Does seem a tad fumbly and isn't a natural ball user but definitely a bull and love his attitude. He's been less fumbly lately tho, which is great. Obvs nas is an a grader, I think Garcia and Windy could get to b+ and phillipou is one I think could be A if he gets his body right. He's a natural footballer and could drift forward too.

 

[jimmytigs]

Whatever we offered Finn, he was worth it and probably more. I know we give up no draft capital for TDK but hard to compare the same offer to the two. Callaghan is an incredible footballer!

they must have called briggs and callahan together a dozen times last night,if that giants(hopefully premiers 2025)comeback wasnt so exillerating i would have pulled out magnum force to watch it

 

[gringo2011]

Hope so. Does seem a tad fumbly and isn't a natural ball user but definitely a bull and love his attitude. He's been less fumbly lately tho, which is great. Obvs nas is an a grader, I think Garcia and Windy could get to b+ and phillipou is one I think could be A if he gets his body right. He's a natural footballer and could drift forward too.

Garcia looks like a premium inside mid type to me. Has all the assets and attitude looks good. Think he could get to Butters level without too much imagination.

Phillipou comes on as a mid and it's more the classier Bont type. It would actually be a pretty sweet mix. Boxshall looked the goods preseason too. His kicking looks a bit more hit and miss to me. In a few years we probably have a pretty decent young midfield.

 

[Mowman]

Garcia looks like a premium inside mid type to me. Has all the assets and attitude looks good. Think he could get to Butters level without too much imagination.

Phillipou comes on as a mid and it's more the classier Bont type. It would actually be a pretty sweet mix. Boxshall looked the goods preseason too. His kicking looks a bit more hit and miss to me. In a few years we probably have a pretty decent young midfield.

wilson and Toby on the wings

 

[gringo2011]

wilson and Toby on the wings

Hopefully Nas having runs on ball too and it looks pretty exciting all of a sudden. Small forwards and a tall forward that can get on the park become a priority now.

 

[LazarPoodovic]

Maybe we should just say "hang it" and once we get TDK get on the phone to SDK, get him to nominate us to play with his brother and that can be the Marshall trade.

Why yes, 600 pages of reading about NWM has sent me insane. Why do you ask?

 

[True Believer]

Im well off that and I got a whole dollar a week pay rise Wendsday

Who knows, if you can work on being able to spell the days of the week correctly, that could be a two dollar a week pay-rise in absolutely no time!!

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Garcia looks like a premium inside mid type to me. Has all the assets and attitude looks good. Think he could get to Butters level without too much imagination.

Phillipou comes on as a mid and it's more the classier Bont type. It would actually be a pretty sweet mix. Boxshall looked the goods preseason too. His kicking looks a bit more hit and miss to me. In a few years we probably have a pretty decent young midfield.

If they all hit their potential ceiling, Dodson, Garcia, Nas and Phillipou would be a crazy good combo. Add to them Wilson and Windhager on the outside as (respectively) attacking a defensive wings, and then some pretty exciting flankers in Henry, Hall, Trav and Hastie, and we've got this engine room moving forward:

HB: Trav, Hastie

C: Wilson, Phillipou, Windhager

HF: Henry, Hall

Foll: Dodson, Garcia, Nas

Weirdly, if NAS does make the switch to full time mid, we might need another back flanker, as I think Hastie probably projects more as a marking back pocket with a good leg, rather than as a true modern day half backer. Similarly, I reckon Trav will be more wing and mid rotation, as his kicking can be suspect. I personally wouldn't mind seeing what Hall can do there at some point, because he reminds me so much of a young Sinclair. Regardless, the future is looking a lot brighter all of a sudden, or at least it will if NAS signs

 

[sainter7]

Garcia looks like a premium inside mid type to me. Has all the assets and attitude looks good. Think he could get to Butters level without too much imagination.

Phillipou comes on as a mid and it's more the classier Bont type. It would actually be a pretty sweet mix. Boxshall looked the goods preseason too. His kicking looks a bit more hit and miss to me. In a few years we probably have a pretty decent young midfield.

I think Garcia getting to butters level is very optimistic. Butters is and was a freak from the get go. Clean as hell. Garcia isn't as clean. Hopefully I'm wrong! Go saints

 

[yeahfells]

Is it too much to expect a Nas announcement before the game tomorrow..?

 

[Diehard Saint]

Is it too much to expect a Nas announcement before the game tomorrow..?

Yes it’s not going to be announced Sunday afternoon

 

[gringo2011]

I think Garcia getting to butters level is very optimistic. Butters is and was a freak from the get go. Clean as hell. Garcia isn't as clean. Hopefully I'm wrong! Go saints

Hugo.

● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Tackles Per Game	● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Centre Clearances Per Game
● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Clearances Per Game	● Ranked 2nd among rising stars in Stoppage Clearances Per Game
● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Clangers Per Game	● Ranked 6th among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game
● Ranked 6th among rising stars in Tackles Inside 50 Per Game	● Ranked 7th among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game
● Ranked 9th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game	● Ranked 10th among rising stars in Inside 50s Per Game
● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Centre Clearances	● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Clearances
● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Stoppage Clearances	● Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Tackles
● Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Clangers	● Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Tackles Inside 50
● Ranked 7th among rising stars in Total Inside 50s	● Ranked 8th among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions
● Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Handballs

 

[gringo2011]

I think Garcia getting to butters level is very optimistic. Butters is and was a freak from the get go. Clean as hell. Garcia isn't as clean. Hopefully I'm wrong! Go saints

Hugo Garcia and Zak Butters AFL Stats Comparison

Hugo Garcia and Zak Butters AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

Hugo has improved significantly in his last bank of games as he held on to the ball and waited for better options to open up. It looks like composure was a big part of his early disposal issues. Funny enough they aren't far apart on disposal efficiency now and were further apart when Butters first started.

 

[beside the seaside]

Hugo Garcia and Zak Butters AFL Stats Comparison

Hugo Garcia and Zak Butters AFL Stats Comparison.

www.footywire.com

Hugo, Phillipou and Nasiah could be a pretty amazing midfield combo if all comes together, with TDK in the ruck.

I agree with your earlier post, we need to find another key forward. That way if King comes back to his best we'll still have a great one-two combo. I don't think we can rely on Caminiti going forward again, Keeler is a huge question mark aswell. Dodson more of a ruck than a forward. Just still seems to be a glaring weakness on the list even if King gets back to his best.

 

[kernelT]

What's this Tuesday shit lol, I'm newish to here

See you next tuesday.

 

[The Punter]

Nas = Bont

Garcia = Libba

 

[kernelT]

Geez the Swans look ok against a side that’s won 5 in a row

We must be shit ….Swans hammered us didnt they…….?
Actually last 5 weeks against top 8 sides we’ve been obliterated haven’t we??
We do have some bed wetting don’t we ?
We will be fine
Keep NAS grow kids bring in Aleer TDK
And yup gee Callaghan woulda been absolute cream…but alas …

This aged like a fine wine, that you drink too much of and shit the bed.

 

[crasha301]

Garcia looks like a premium inside mid type to me. Has all the assets and attitude looks good. Think he could get to Butters level without too much imagination.

Phillipou comes on as a mid and it's more the classier Bont type. It would actually be a pretty sweet mix. Boxshall looked the goods preseason too. His kicking looks a bit more hit and miss to me. In a few years we probably have a pretty decent young midfield.

I agree on Garcia, definitely has the level within him.

One thing he has that you can't teach, that the best mids have is that "dog" in them.

 

[gringo2011]

Hugo, Phillipou and Nasiah could be a pretty amazing midfield combo if all comes together, with TDK in the ruck.

I agree with your earlier post, we need to find another key forward. That way if King comes back to his best we'll still have a great one-two combo. I don't think we can rely on Caminiti going forward again, Keeler is a huge question mark aswell. Dodson more of a ruck than a forward. Just still seems to be a glaring weakness on the list even if King gets back to his best.

Caminiti is still tracking well ahead of a lot for his age but he looks like he should settle into a very solid back now. A back up key forward would be handy. Maybe now that the Hawks have their first picked KPF back we could tempt Chol across. He's been great for them.

 

[beside the seaside]

Caminiti is still tracking well ahead of a lot for his age but he looks like he should settle into a very solid back now. A back up key forward would be handy. Maybe now that the Hawks have their first picked KPF back we could tempt Chol across. He's been great for them.

Yeah one of their forwards might be squeezed out. That would be a good option.

 

[gringo2011]

Nas = Bont

Garcia = Libba

Nas is something unique. One of my Tigers mates reckon that if you put all the best indigenous players together in one package you get Nas. Has bits of McLeod, Winmar, Wanganeen, Rioli etc.

I reckon Phillipou has Bont vibes, that taller impact mid that seems to be a bit classier than the people he's up against. Garcia definitely has the blue collar scrapper in him but he's a bit more quick around the contest and evasive than Libba who seems to drive through traffic. That's why I reckon Butters isn't a bad comparison, he's very quickly at cruising speed and steps around traffic a lot more. Loves a goal too.

 

[kernelT]

Garcia is a poor user at this stage but then so are a lot of the very best midfielders. He's the kind of player that lifts his teammates with his passion and appetite for the contest.