List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion

[Yawkey way]

Because all of these contracts you read about would have substantial incentives to earn those figures. You would have the likes of Steele or Marshall moved on. Cordy and maybe Howard gone etc.

Which is entirely why it’s not worth worrying about.

If we play along with your hypothetical - what do you reckon happens if Nas/TDK/Rowell + King/Windy/Hall etc are all earning their maximum $$$ ?

I can tell you what it means.


One of these

Just wait if we set the market others will follow and the figures we’re talking about will quickly become the norm.

If anyone follows the NFL and wants an example. 2 teams broke ranks and gave second round picks more money and guaranteed. Every other pick in that round was a hold out until the 49ers paid their pick 89 % guaranteed, now watch the domino’s fall at every other club.

The market has spoken.

 

[Yawkey way]

If he really wanted to stay he would have signed, he is gone 100% , he is just messing with your heads like Hall did all those years ago

That’s my sense of how things stand as well, he wants to go home why kick the can down the road.

 

[Yawkey way]

Rekon we definitely ask for Berry. We tried to trade back in for him last year.

Berry + Sinn + change maybe??

Depends on whether they want Keeler and Windy as well. Maybe we can get some of the Butters deal...

That’s not even close, you do know that 4 decent players will never equal an AA.

Port or Adelaide will need to stump up a decent package or we might as well send him to the draft and force the afl’s hand.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

You’ve spoken with Jack Whitlock, who’s signalled he’s open to returning home.

My guess is that if Nas ends up requesting a trade to Port, Whitlock will be part of the deal in some capacity.

 

[L_W_P]

That’s not even close, you do know that 4 decent players will never equal an AA.

Port or Adelaide will need to stump up a decent package or we might as well send him to the draft and force the afl’s hand.

No chance we send him to the draft.

The AFL would step in with mediation and strong arm the teams into a deal.

If Butters leaves, and doesn't come to the Saints, then I assume we get part of that package along with a player.

I don't see how we end up with multiple top 10 picks.

 

[botts]

You’ve spoken with Jack Whitlock, who’s signalled he’s open to returning home.

My guess is that if Nas ends up requesting a trade to Port, Whitlock will be part of the deal in some capacity.

Why would we want him? We are about to bring in aleer and TDK. Have no need for another developing tall

 

[beside the seaside]

You’ve spoken with Jack Whitlock, who’s signalled he’s open to returning home.

My guess is that if Nas ends up requesting a trade to Port, Whitlock will be part of the deal in some capacity.

They can chuck him in as steak knives with Butters.

 

[gringo2011]

Have we had a crack?

Presumably so, but I’ve heard nought about it.

I don't believe so but who knows.

 

[70s sainter]

I imagine the S.C to look something like this ….completely guessing
SC 15mill

We’ve saved 5% over the last 2 years
=750k x 2
That’s roughly 200k per year over 8 years to give to Tdk
So he takes 1.5mill a year of the SC

Bottom 10 players 200k each = 2 mill
Next 10 up 250k per year = 2.5mill
Next 5 players 300 = 1.5mill
Next 5 400 k = 2mill
Total 8 mill

7 mill between Top 10
Tdk 1.5 mill
Nas 1.3
Wilkie 700k
Sinclair 700k
3mill between the other 6 = 500k each
It’s the only way I could make it work
Must mean we have quite a few on front ended contracts already
Like I said just a complete guess

 

[akaifu]

Why would we want him? We are about to bring in aleer and TDK. Have no need for another developing tall

Because he's a key forward. Aleer is a backman. TDK is a ruck

A developing key forward is a need considering King's issues and Keeler being unreliable

 

[gringo2011]

Yeah apparently people at the club think he's a unique character

Probably one of those really locked in individuals. Maybe like the primary school teacher's pet

Not a bad thing tho

Steve Smith is meant to be one of those intense characters that's only interest is cricket and has no other hobbies or topics. Just complete focus but some find him off putting and a bit unusual.

 

[seesalswigs44]

jeez all those trade suggestions are pretty pox. Would want berry but I’d personally be trying my hardest to get west coast involved. Nas out for Harley in

 

[gringo2011]

Why would we want him? We are about to bring in aleer and TDK. Have no need for another developing tall

Maybe they've realised that King is cooked.

 

[akaifu]

Maybe they've realised that King is cooked.

Or that Keeler isn't good enough

 

[Diehard Saint]

That’s my sense of how things stand as well, he wants to go home why kick the can down the road.

Starting to get pretty antsy myself.
If he wanted to stay, but still a little uncertain long term, then just take the two and put off the decision till next time.

tony74 seems certain he’s staying.
What could the holdup possibly be?

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

tony74 seems certain he’s staying.
What could the holdup possibly be?

has tony posted today? I'm getting withdrawals

 

[Sainter88]

Would TDK get a game over prime Hickey?

What about Rix though? Don’t make me mention Brett Cook either

 

[jwikked]

Why would we want him? We are about to bring in aleer and TDK. Have no need for another developing tall

Don't mind it. Clearly doesn't come close to satisfying (my) trade requirements, but to bring in a tall forward to this team is precisely what we need. We haven't got one lol

 

[jwikked]

Would TDK get a game over prime Hickey?

TDK, Hickey or Longer?

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

TDK, Hickey or Longer?

T or DK?

 

[akaifu]

Starting to get pretty antsy myself.
If he wanted to stay, but still a little uncertain long term, then just take the two and put off the decision till next time.

tony74 seems certain he’s staying.
What could the holdup possibly be?

His manager

 

[Diehard Saint]

has tony posted today? I'm getting withdrawals

No not today.
Someone on here posted fairly recently a convo on Saintsational about someone worrying about how we’d replace NAS, and his reply along the lines of “no need to.”

I know, I’m desperate, clinging onto that, - but not the only one I’ll warrant.

 

[Diehard Saint]

His manager

Yep my thoughts too.
Playing us all against each other.

 

[akaifu]

Yep my thoughts too.
Playing us all against each other.

But honestly, surely NAS first just decides if he wants to stay or not?
In which case there shouldn’t be so much to sort out.

If NWM officially tells the club he wants to stay then there goes all the leverage for Williams to increase the cash offer

 

[SainterinSydney]

You’ve spoken with Jack Whitlock, who’s signalled he’s open to returning home.

My guess is that if Nas ends up requesting a trade to Port, Whitlock will be part of the deal in some capacity.

Could it be we just want him and also keep Nas?