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[StFly]

He’s not playing ones of TDK is here short of injuries.

Doubt he wants that.

Ah, for me he is, we stick him in the square.

Ming is a classic CHF hit up can roost 50m+ and looks awkward closer in, Sharman is a third, we lack an FF and have been plugging people in, in interim. So hey, TDK comes as #1 ruck, Ro becomes FF & ruck relief and when Ming is back he's CHF roamer FF chop out. Gives competition to Keeler if he stays, Moose if he stays, Dodson and co to have competition for spots. Competition spurs on all involved to be better.

There is a world where he plays weekly.

 

[kernelT]

I'm hearing that somebody might have mentioned that they had read a potential rumour, which could possibly be that we are probably saying, words to the effect of:

"It's either ten years or heck off mate, our drafting has been rock solid for 25 years… you won't be missed bud."

 

[jwikked]

Caro saying port believe they can still get a deal done

I still think Bergman is up for a trade.

 

[botts]

Hutchy say butter plus something for nas. I still think that’s unders

 

[Yawkey way]

Caro saying port believe they can still get a deal done

They don’t need to do anything except get Nas to nominate them, I don’t think it will happen though.

Everyone talking about what we’ll get if he does walk has lost the plot. We don’t have any leverage except a threat to send Nas to the draft. If he leaves we’ll get chump change. The afl rule about signing off and fair value imo doesn’t refer to this situation. It’s to stop sham deals not stupid teams watch their actions turn into consequences.

Our best hope would be to embarrass the afl into mediation and some creative on the fly changes. Anyway here’s hoping Nas signs on, he looked pretty happy,. Obviously his team mates love him and he seems to have a great relationship with the coach.

 

[botts]

They don’t need to do anything except get Nas to nominate them, I don’t think it will happen though.

Everyone talking about what we’ll get if he does walk has lost the plot. We don’t have any leverage except a threat to send Nas to the draft. If he leaves we’ll get chump change. The afl rule about signing off and fair value imo doesn’t refer to this situation. It’s to stop sham deals not stupid teams watch their actions turn into consequences.

Our best hope would be to embarrass the afl into mediation and some creative on the fly changes. Anyway here’s hoping Nas signs on, he looked pretty happy,. Obviously his team mates love him and he seems to have a great relationship with the coach.

SOS would have told Williams our asking price. Port don’t have the assets

 

[XhazzafootyX]

I still think Bergman is up for a trade.

He is probably the one with currency.
Whether he’d come or not is a different story

 

[XhazzafootyX]

SOS would have told Williams our asking price. Port don’t have the assets

As we speak they probably don’t.

But they wouldn’t be putting a long term offer in front of him if they didn’t think they could find a way to get a deal done

 

[stavro#4]

As we speak they probably don’t.

But they wouldn’t be putting a long term offer in front of him if they didn’t think they could find a way to get a deal done

You have to give to get and the port board seem to think they are keeping Rozee butters JHF Georgiadies etc

So not sure what gets them these amazing first round picks we are supposedly asking for.

 

[SainterinSydney]

As we speak they probably don’t.

But they wouldn’t be putting a long term offer in front of him if they didn’t think they could find a way to get a deal done

They would be negligent not to put a deal to him.

 

[Teflon]

it's fine to critique peoples ideas and posts on this forum, but the pissing contest is just tiring. I have a go at stav because his contract philosophy is dumb, but the whole "you msgd me 3 years ago that nas's favourite colour was red but now you're saying it's burgundy" etc is a ****ing drag. Im not sure if there are any real mods left on this forum but can we start a drama thread and yall can hash that out there? seriously, we're only here because we're hanging out for info on nas, that's why we're here, stop with the dick measuring shit, no one wants to hear it

100%

 

[Teflon]

I don't understand the hate for rainbows and unicorns , its outlandish

You saying Stavs a unicorn ??

 

[Yawkey way]

SOS would have told Williams our asking price. Port don’t have the assets

Mate I’m not sure what you’re missing but if an out of contract player nominates another club you’re well and truly stuffed.

If it’s port they can offer us anything they like, we have two choices accept or send him to the draft. Collingwood offered us second rounder and denied us a player swap we wanted from memory. How’d that turn out ? Well that’s what you’re looking at if port choose to play it that way.

 

[bwardi]

Saints players posting moneybags and Hilly saying 'pay him' on Instagram makes me think his manager is still holding back until saints put forward a real cracking offer.

 

[Broski]

Why is there bickering in my depression forum?

 

[LuckyBounce!]

Saints players posting moneybags and Hilly saying 'pay him' on Instagram makes me think his manager is still holding back until saints put forward a real cracking offer.

We need to put forward a real cracking offer then and just get it done

 

[kernelT]

We need to put forward a real cracking offer then and just get it done

If we haven't done this 18 months ago then we still have some dickheads running the show.

 

[austinnn]

Honestly, is there any other players in the AFL you would trade NWM for with no extra parts to the deal?

Not me.

Not Harley Reid, Nick Daicos, Zac Butters, Bont, Danger, no one.

 

[Teflon]

Kane Cornes saying he can't see Nas leaving. Says we shouldn't over pay though.

His point is a good one
IF we want Nas to stay longer term then it’s more than money he has to genuine buy into and believe
Hopefully yesterday showed him the future of this side is bright - certainly brighter than Port - and that’s worth staying for
Money and “open cheque” books are great but if you look at the great sides who have multiple success their players all buy in
I listened to Brian Cook explain this at a lunch once when G Ablett was being courted by Suns ….Cook explained they left the agreeable amount Cats could offer Ablett up to the senior playing group (I think he meant the core of that group eg Bartels etc) and they did this to maintain integrity in the culture they had built and that was team success over all your eggs in 1 players basket for $$
I remember when Saints had Roo etc all playing great footy but I also knew we had an unhealthy cap tied dominated by a small few
Yes, your better players will always get more and Nas will deserve that too the question is how much before that becomes a stopper on what you’re trying to do with the whole team??

 

[StCicatriz]

i dont think i've seen a st kilda player loved this much by players, supporters and coaches since lenny

ross comments on his injury and the call to the dr that morning is lenny like

 

[phantom13]

Ah, for me he is, we stick him in the square.

Ming is a classic CHF hit up can roost 50m+ and looks awkward closer in, Sharman is a third, we lack an FF and have been plugging people in, in interim. So hey, TDK comes as #1 ruck, Ro becomes FF & ruck relief and when Ming is back he's CHF roamer FF chop out. Gives competition to Keeler if he stays, Moose if he stays, Dodson and co to have competition for spots. Competition spurs on all involved to be better.

There is a world where he plays weekly.

I’m glad you have nothing to do with selection.

 

[Mowman]

100%
Or the antsy Prima Donna’s who gets their knickers twisted cause someone shares a view the ‘mob’ dont like ??
Fckn amazing. I feel like I’m surrounded by Pie fans at times….

On its own our mediocrity is not solely due to our shitting the bed on draft picks
It’s fck all to do with that in isolation is my point
Are you deliberately stupid good sir??
Now stop backing up to your unicorn it’s gone through to your brain…

No you brain dead unicorn
I just don’t need to come on a saints forum and tell all fellow Saints supporters “we’ve been shit at recruiting last 10 years”. What Saints fan doesn’t already know that ???? And guess what: we aren’t alone in that
What we are battling (and again you can’t seem to grasp…) is we get 1 swing at the pick compared to the Nepo babies getting multiple goes
For the first time ever the club calls it out and all you want to do is run around and tell us all how shit we’ve been ??
What’s next genius ….”we’ve won 1 flag in 150 years…”
Regular Nostradamus you are
And I was waiting for the grade 2 drawings to show up ….I guess that’s all that’s left when you struggle to understand the topic or string together anything remotely coherent?

Jesus you're one angry fcker and also you're everything your accusing others of being

and old mate Matt would giving me plenty of points for those post LOl

 

[phantom13]

No you brain dead unicorn
I just don’t need to come on a saints forum and tell all fellow Saints supporters “we’ve been shit at recruiting last 10 years”. What Saints fan doesn’t already know that ???? And guess what: we aren’t alone in that
What we are battling (and again you can’t seem to grasp…) is we get 1 swing at the pick compared to the Nepo babies getting multiple goes
For the first time ever the club calls it out and all you want to do is run around and tell us all how shit we’ve been ??
What’s next genius ….”we’ve won 1 flag in 150 years…”
Regular Nostradamus you are
And I was waiting for the grade 2 drawings to show up ….I guess that’s all that’s left when you struggle to understand the topic or string together anything remotely coherent?

100%

… I mean… come on man.

 

[beside the seaside]

One thing that might give some hope is that every game he plays at the moment his value basically goes up by $100k. We also haven't signed Max Hall which is obviously going to get done, probably because every game he plays his value is increasing.

If there's a point where we hit money-wise that means we get the deal done then yes I'd like to just hit it and get this whole thing over with.

The fact that people like Caro think he'll stay is a positive. But the longer it goes on the more painful it becomes.

 

[StCicatriz]

Rohan Marshall's kick after the 6-6-6 penalty has changed the trajectory of the St Kilda Football Club.

He's a smart footballer and I don't care if TDK is coming or not, he is a must keep.

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