List Mgmt. 2025 List Management discussion

[Dard Ball Get]

Ollie f***ing Lord

 

[Minga]

just wow'd him to the point he signed

Doubt it’s that black and white, especially if he’s home sick.

All for being critical with how the club has handled the situation but it’s pretty futile to do so whilst it’s still a live situation.

 

[StCicatriz]

Building your cap up to use your 105% is to acquire new talent - which in our case means paying overs.

The purpose isn’t just to throw everything at Nas. It defeats the purpose about getting better.

the purpose is to retain what you have and keep building.

aint no point getting one of the best younger players who looks to be right now the best player in the league only to then **** him off because you suddenly are worried about your salary cap when you're offering a ruckman 400k more than you're offering your best player.

if cap concern is an issue dont go offering people like Clark new deals.

 

[StCicatriz]

This I agree with, which is why I think our best chance is to blow Adelaide and Port out the water with 2 year deal with triggers for 3-5 years. Hutchy’s absolutely right in his assessment I reckon.

Potentially deal could look like 1.7m (2026), 1.85 (2027), 2m (2028 - subject to trigger and player agreement), 2.15m (2029 - subject to trigger and player agreement), 2.3m (2030 - subject to trigger and player agreement) then add incentives predominantly in early years.

absolutely spot on.

better yet we should have done this last year but SOS is trying to get close to market rate or below so he can chest beat how amazing he did it.

he'll lose him and the excuses will all start to flow about it all being out of their control.

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Doubt it’s that black and white, especially if he’s home sick.

All for being critical with how the club has handled the situation but it’s pretty futile to do so whilst it’s still a live situation.

No no, hindsight hero fink club bad

 

[dudeintheswamp]

With all the media speculation, all the differing opinions floating around out there, I'm choosing to go with Fatso McFatface.

 

[phantom13]

With all the media speculation, all the differing opinions floating around out there, I'm choosing to go with Fatso McFatface.

Thought Robbo retired?

 

[saintbill]

Yep agree. With all of my medical expertise. I just want him to be the generational forward lynchpin we were all hoping he'd be. That's just tail lights in the mirror at this stage. Have become super frustrated with him. Not his fault I know. Just the amount of hope and hype that was attached to him as a player to build a flag tilt around and the reality that he's looking like an injury bust with poor body language when he has been on the park.

What until Max starts playing again and you remember he is not that good. Then you will be really frustrated.

 

[StCicatriz]

based on the sentiment in this thread if NAS goes this is going to blow up massively.

there is absolutely no way SOS can spend a minute more at the club.

TBH i'd be asking why the executive at the club didn't step in. any offer above X amount has to be ticked off by the president so if he's not asking for it to be increased and oversees this mess. i think he needs to go as well.

 

[SainterinSydney]

based on the sentiment in this thread if NAS goes this is going to blow up massively.

there is absolutely no way SOS can spend a minute more at the club.

TBH i'd be asking why the executive at the club didn't step in. any offer above X amount has to be ticked off by the president so if he's not asking for it to be increased and oversees this mess. i think he needs to go as well.

Why is everyone getting so worked up when we literally have no %$^&ing clue what is going on behind closed doors? The only tidbits are from our ITKs.

 

[saintbill]

based on the sentiment in this thread if NAS goes this is going to blow up massively.

there is absolutely no way SOS can spend a minute more at the club.

TBH i'd be asking why the executive at the club didn't step in. any offer above X amount has to be ticked off by the president so if he's not asking for it to be increased and oversees this mess. i think he needs to go as well.

I reckon BigFooty will crash for sure.

 

[jwikked]

based on the sentiment in this thread if NAS goes this is going to blow up massively.

there is absolutely no way SOS can spend a minute more at the club.

TBH i'd be asking why the executive at the club didn't step in. any offer above X amount has to be ticked off by the president so if he's not asking for it to be increased and oversees this mess. i think he needs to go as well.

I can’t remember who said it, but someone said that basically all the long term contracts are fake. Nothing more than a handshake agreement, because the AFL won’t sign off them officially.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

This has to be one of the most complicated negotiations ever.

We couldn’t have signed him early in the year because he wasn’t interested. We couldn’t have “blown him away” with an offer early in the year as he wasn’t worth even $1 million a year back then. He was playing very well as a HBF while muffing several kicks per game. Just Nas being Nas.

His worth has increased at supersonic speed over the last 4-6 weeks, since he moved into the middle and started gathering 30+ kicks and slotting multiple goals in consecutive games. And then it’s doubled again with Sunday’s insane heroics. Add to that the 2 Adelaide clubs, our only real rivals for his signature, then dekoning their offers and we’ve arrived where we are today.

I think the club is doing all they can to keep Nas. No, I’m sure of it. Bassat would be all over the importance of Nas to the team, to the fans and to our plans.

But at the end of the day I know nothing about what is going on and what has been going on.

But then neither do those criticising the club.

 

[_Maximus_12]

The Prez started off the 40 years member night by saying that, doing everything they can.

The club know how important he is. They’re not sitting around on their hands hoping he signs but hey, it’s a lot easier to blame the club than it is to accept that even if we’ve done everything we can, his family doesn’t live here, and he’s a family man.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Ports next month is Geelong in Geelong, Fremantle in Adelaide, Carlton and Marvel and Suns at home.

3 of those could be genuine blow outs, and we should be preying for that.

 

[phantom13]

I don’t see too many people criticizing the club right now (other than noting IF we’re not increasing our offer at this point it’s negligent).

Most of the criticism is about if we don’t manage to sign him and he leaves, added with if we haven’t increased our offer because we refuse to pay him unless he commits for longer than 2 years, then we’ve ****ed up.

I think it’s valid but also if he stays I’ll be happy regardless.

Pre emptive criticism if you will.

 

[_Maximus_12]

I don’t see too many people criticizing the club right now (other than noting IF we’re not increasing our offer at this point it’s negligent).

Most of the criticism is about if we don’t manage to sign him and he leaves, added with if we haven’t increased our offer because we refuse to pay him unless he commits for longer than 2 years, then we’ve ****ed up.

I think it’s valid but also if he stays I’ll be happy regardless.

Pre emptive criticism if you will.

I’ve seen a number of people pot the club for not offering enough/as much as Port and Adelaide have.

None of us know how much we’ve offered, but the club have routinely stated they wouldn’t be outbid.

There have been plenty arguing the club don’t know what they’re doing etc.

 

[MordySaint]

Max's contract expires at the end of 2028.

If he hits a games played trigger the 2nd half of the deal kicks in (unlikely at this stage).

A key point willfully ignored by many who want to keep the bad St Kilda narrative going.

Is this a fact? If it is then it's not a too bad result.

Bottomline is everyone wants him on the park.

 

[phantom13]

I’ve seen a number of people pot the club for not offering enough/as much as Port and Adelaide have.

None of us know how much we’ve offered, but the club have routinely stated they wouldn’t be outbid.

There have been plenty arguing the club don’t know what they’re doing etc.

It’s still really pre emptive to be fair.

Additionally reports are saying that we’ve not upped to the level they have.

Bottom line the thread is for discussion, most of us are doing it from personal positions knowing full well we’re piecing info together from reports that are likely mostly bullshit.

If he signs I’m gonna assume no one will be pissed. If he doesn’t well all speculate on what the club did or didn’t do.

 

[OxSaint]

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Imagine losing Nas because we were worried about this group coming out of contract:

Tauru, Hastie, Hill, Wilkie, Garcia, Clark, Sinclair, Steele, Macrae, Barrat, Collard, Henry, Wood, Marshall, Travaglia

Which players in there ^ are even remotely close to breaking the bank in 2 years?

Could have said the same about NAS 2 years ago. Tauru has shown more upside than NAS in his first year. Who would have thought Hall would be a must sign before the season was out?

Can change very quickly.

 

[longlivelenny]

This place has gone nuts.
Mods in pissing contests, itk's getting all upset and nas still not signed.
Joffa seems like the most sane right now and that worries me.

 

[Mowman]

Is this a fact? If it is then it's not a too bad result.

Bottomline is everyone wants him on the park.

Its not fact

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Is this a fact?

There’s facts…






And then there’s Big Footy.

 

[Mr Clunk]

You weren’t aware of it, because it’s seemingly not true.

King of Moorabbin for eight more years

Max King has inked a fresh eight-year deal, set to call RSEA Park home until at least the end of 2032.

www.saints.com.au

“Until at least 2032”

It’s a nice cope, though.

Ah well, I enjoyed 5 minutes of false peace of mind

 

[Sainter88]

Has NAS signed yet? Or any update? Cbf flicking through 19 pages since I was gone just for my own mental wellbeing