List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[HBF]

They have a better list, far more skillful players.

And a better coach

 

[Wickzki]

If we have 6 players on roughly 1M each, that brings the average for the rest down markedly.

Then, we'd have 12 M for players 38 players. Even paying 180k for 15 players leaves around 9M for 20 (ish) players.

Yep. 6 at close to or around $1m each.

Docherty*, Saad, Williams, Hewett's new contract, Cerra on a bit less but still significant money.

Pittonet and Acres probably at above average salaries too.

Everybody else seemingly fighting for crumbs.

Anybody coming into the club and looking at that is going to be in for a rude awakening.

Despite some people thinking otherwise, not every other team is so out of alignment as that. It's too much of a long tail. It's why our 15-30-ish ranked players look poor compared to the premiership contenders.

At least there's some really good quality youth coming through.

 

[Opium]

I wonder what Pies have on us then in terms of the offer. Reports were Pies was 4 years I thought. Maybe slightly more money per year.

If JSOS and TDK leave via free agency we only receive the one compo pick. Is that correct?

 

[DangerousD]

Really interested as to why we would.delist Cincotta?
I would delist 10 before him. He plays tough
Is it injury related?

Cinc needs to be elevated to the senior list which o think means a 2 year deal.

Cinc was plucked from the VFL and there would be a heap of them in the state leagues who could jump in and have similar output.

Good depth player but the timing of his contract is frustrating.

 

[Gointocarlton]

I’d be offering NAS that money God help them if they lose him.

Also Marshall won’t be there should TDK land there.

Wouldnt mind Marshall for us.

 

[Stamos]

If JSOS and TDK leave via free agency we only receive the one compo pick. Is that correct?

No

 

[Wickzki]

If JSOS and TDK leave via free agency we only receive the one compo pick. Is that correct?

Incorrect.

 

[Stamos]

Cinc needs to be elevated to the senior list which o think means a 2 year deal.

Can be 1 year contract

 

[carlton_99]

If JSOS and TDK leave via free agency we only receive the one compo pick. Is that correct?

No we would receive a pick for each player. TDK would be band 1 for sure. JSOS probably band 2 or 3.

 

[Jimmae]

Yep. 6 at close to or around $1m each.

TDK, Cripps, Curnow, McKay, Weitering, Walsh? Ok.

Docherty*, Saad, Williams,

Sure, though I would have thought Doc's salary was on the decline.

Hewett's new contract, Cerra on a bit less but still significant money.

Figured they were the other way around.

Pittonet and Acres probably at above average salaries too.

Pittonet? I hope not... definitely trade him then, pay a small percentage of the contract if required.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Not even close

The highest paid players in the AFL as rich list revealed

More players than ever before were paid more than $1 million last year

www.afl.com.au

 

[Bearded Carpenter]

Zac Williams is the only 'small' forward I trust to consistently make the most of his opportunities near goal.

You’re the only ‘small’ poster I trust to consistently make this place fun for all.

There is a shortage of people like you around here.

 

[Big Delut]

He is a FA, I thought only RFA's triggered compo, good be wrong though.

The only difference is you're able to match and force trades with RFA's. Compo still follows the same formula. For example Josh Battle was a UFA last year and triggered band 1

 

[ferrisb]

You’re the only ‘small’ poster I trust to consistently make this place fun for all.

There is a shortage of people like you around here.

Someone's gotta ******* kick goals around here!!!

 

[Wickzki]

Someone's gotta ******* kick goals around here!!!

What are you doing next Sunday?


Asking for a certain list manager...

 

[Gointocarlton]

The only difference is you're able to match and force trades with RFA's. Compo still follows the same formula. For example Josh Battle was a UFA last year and triggered band 1

Cheers

 

[Juddrockz]

Or another club is having a go

Cats i reckon.

 

[ferrisb]

What are you doing next Sunday?


Asking for a certain list manager...

I have the attributes of several AFL footballers...





Levi Casboult's goal kicking
Caleb Daniel's height (almost)
Mickey Nolan's physique
Caleb Marchbank's durability
Toby Greene's maturity
Lance Whitnall's nutritional habits
Kane Lucas's clearance work

 

[SurreyBlue]

Saints now offering TDK 8 years at $1.8M on Ch7 Sports news bulletin in Slowbart

What are they offering NWM?

 

[Wickzki]

I have the attributes of several AFL footballers...





Levi Casboult's goal kicking
Caleb Daniel's height (almost)
Mickey Nolan's physique
Caleb Marchbank's durability
Toby Greene's maturity
Lance Whitnall's nutritional habits
Kane Lucas's clearance work

Welcome to Carlton.

 

[Wickzki]

Figured they were the other way around.

I didn't say Cerra wasn't earning more than Hewett.. They've both got to be earning less than the top players but still substantial coin.

 

[NYCFC]

Jesus.
1.8 x 8 should get us pick 1 compo.

 

[OldBlueFan]

I don’t give a rats about “mentor” (who has he actually mentored in 10 years of footy?), “footy smarts” or “desperation” if you can’t actually get out on the park.
Even when he has he’s finished top 10 once, at 10, in the bnf and nowhere else close to that.

The deal we have on the table is over the odds already, if he wasn’t a free agent it wouldn’t and should be less.

It is about the “name” and peoples emotional attachment to it, he’s serviceable but serviceable at the amount of money and tenure the filth are offering I’d prefer to take the end of round 1 minimum compensation we’d get and use that to bring in Harry Dean and bank the significant cap space we’d release.

I don't know what else I can say to convince you that, for me, it's nothing to do with his name, or an emotional attachment:

For me, this is not about his name at all, it's about whether the club can afford to lose him, especially over what sounds like a trifling amount.

Whether you give a rat's arse about my reasons for wanting him around the club is no reason to intimate that I'm lying about said reasons.

I would have thought that the position Collingwood have found themselves in over the last few seasons would suggest that they are reasonably good at both list and talent management. So I think I'd be inclined to give more weight to their opinion of a player's worth than random posters on a football forum, who - as far as I know - have little to no experience in AFL list management.

 

[SpiritOfCarlton]

We used to trade off triple premiership players like it was nothing in the day and think nothing much more of it.

These days we get out knickers in a knot over players who have zero flags.

We are more like St Kilda supporters every day.

I've worked for the Carlton Past Players for over 15 years.

Lots of great people, but the simple fact is single players are not bigger than the club.

Sensible people realise this. People who would rather follow a player than their club get what they deserve.

No one is more important than the club. No one. Even Big Nick got shafted!

 

[Worm4]

He's not clean enough.

Fumbles or second grabs far too often IMHO.

That's a non-negotiable for his position.

Throw in too many missed tackles defensively, and also unawareness of surroundings when he has the ball so he either chooses wrong targets, or ultimately gets tackled.