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Humphrey is worth more than charlie imo. simply wont be on the table (happy to be proven wrong!)
Humphreys is the guy. Hopefully get him to want to come back to Victoria. Tough sell I know right now but I don’t think players like Walter who are playing in their home state will want to leave with them finals bound for the foreseeable future.
 
Humphreys is the guy. Hopefully get him to want to come back to Victoria. Tough sell I know right now but I don’t think players like Walter who are playing in their home state will want to leave with them finals bound for the foreseeable future.
Humphrey, Rainer are the future forward types.
Strong, mobile, good overhead and dangerous. We are heading in that direction with Moir and Kemp, still need at least 1 explosive small FWD to assist Frankie and quality forward entries.

We could structure the entire forward line with only 1 200cm marking target(Harry), and a different forward plan.
 
Humphrey, Rainer are the future forward types.
Strong, mobile, good overhead and dangerous. We are heading in that direction with Moir and Kemp, still need at least 1 explosive small FWD to assist Frankie and quality forward entries.

We could structure the entire forward line with only 1 200cm marking target(Harry), and a different forward plan.
Brad Pearce type…
Bailey Fritsch
EH could have been a POD for us
ZW has shown glimpses, as has F.Young

Midfield improving their disposal and the forwards making space + crumbing

ZW - Kemp - EH / F.Young
Moir - McKay - Evans
 
Walter chases as hard as any KPF in the comp. Probably too busy doing that than getting the ball himself tbh.

He hasn't exploded yet, and may never do... But as a junior he was an absolute freak of nature. In a year Harley Reid belonged to I still had Walter at #1 from memory. He just had every tool for a modern KPF, angry, lightning fast, stick hands and a booking kick.

Don't want to lose Charlie but Walter would certainly make it less of a loss.
Absolutely. Watching him play live he was an absolute menace. For all the criticism of Lemmey being too meek/polite a footballer, Walter is the opposite. He's going to bully defenders when he finds his feet. He attacks the ball in the air and on the ground with real intent, with the frame to support that approach.

Just spend 3 months with Sav Rocca sorting out a set shot routine and he won't look back.
 

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Brad Pearce type…
Bailey Fritsch
EH could have been a POD for us
ZW has shown glimpses, as has F.Young

Midfield improving their disposal and the forwards making space + crumbing

ZW - Kemp - EH / F.Young
Moir - McKay - Evans
I rate Bailey Fritsch and reckon he would significantky improve our forward set up on the scoreboard. How realistic are some of the rumours that we are interested in him? 🤔
 
Lots of people asking why a player would want to come to us, just like every other year, players want to return home, players want better opportunities and of course more $$$$.

So if Charlie wants GC for example, then we need to make Walter, King, Humphrey or whoever an offer that ticks as many of the boxes that make players want to move.

I believe in my heart that TDK didn’t want to leave us for the Saints, he left because the deal was too good.

If it’s Humphrey, the contract offer needs to be longer and at least $150,000 per year more.

That goes for any contracted player.

Don’t forget we had Cerra, Saad and Hewett all want to come to us and we were worse when they signed up.
 
I seen an article trade type
Carlton get
Walter , pick 6 and Gold Coast future first
Round pick
Curnow, pick 34 and 44
Not a bad trade
Walter is only 20 years of age and has shown glimpses of his potential
Curnow is 29 next year massive difference in age.

Would love to get him.
Campbell cheeser looks like he is going to come to us as well
Pick 14 in 2021 draft

Walter and Campbell nice age bracket high picks.

And if we got pick 6 and future first .
That gives us
6
10 tdk
Silvagni end of first round compo
Our 2026 future first round
And suns future first

Could bring in some serious talent through draft and trade with these picks.
Would help our rest massively.
 

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What was dismissive? Forgive me for saying that luring one of the comp's best players is a fantasy... but it is...

And what was "so rude"??

As for compo, do you see a situation where Port aren't going to match? Butters is their marquee player in the middle of his prime. Whoever wants him will be coughing up. There's no way they're letting him walk for band 1 compo, it would be like us not matching for peak Cripps...
Exactly, Butters is one of the best players in the comp.

Where does this idea come from that Port will just give him away easily?

He’s not Dan Houston.

He’d have some of the highest trade value in the league.
 
I’d much rather deal with the Suns or Giants on a trade for Charlie, they have more of the missing pieces we need.

If Sydney aren’t putting up Gulden, I’d shut any further talks, now.
Not that Gulden will ever be a part of the trade, but you need Sydney in the conversation. When it comes down to the last day of trading you want multiple clubs to be giving you the best offer…we are miles off the last day of trade week

I’m extremely confident if we get the right offer for Carlton GW will be taking it, and if we don’t GW will keep him.
 
Good to see a clear unequivocal approach going forward. The Dochertys who were starved of finals and success and on the wrong end of the career were motivated by selfish needs in wanting a top up approach that was very high risk and high reward.

With the lack of depth in the team and the injury history, if we went the top up approach then our salary cap problem would be an utter catastrophe and we would’ve squandered our draft hand. Tdk would still be leaving, and there’s no way we would’ve gone all the way given how far the gap was between us and the other finalists by the time of finals 2024. And then this year that gap was even bigger.

Those on the tail end of their career would’ve let their feelings known but the prospect of being picked up by another team with as good a salary as they’re receiving now was low. So they’ve stayed and stewed. Adding to a clear divide and factions.

In what world could a club achieve the ultimate success with such a cultural divide.

It’s good to see this $hit come out to give context. It’s cathartic for a fan.

Our issues are bigger than just the playing list. But building a list invested in the plan means everyone is playing selfless footy and playing for each other - the type of footy the pies players play and which has seen those turds constantly playing finals.
Clubs messaging has been the problem.

Maybe they will finally properly disclose where they truly think the list is at, how many years til contention etc.

Let’s not pretend like after the 2023 prelim the widely held view was that the list had peaked and going nowhere fast.

I mean halfway through last year we were in the top 4 and there was plenty of buzz from supporters.

Brian Cook continually talked about us being a top 4 contender. They sacked the fitness boss and put the blame on injuries for our fall off in 2024. 2025 was meant to be a bounce back year.

The Jagga trade was sold as a way to get in speed through the middle. Not a rebuild/retool sort of move.

It is quite clear nobody has been on the same page at the club for quite sometime. I don’t really blame someone like Docherty for being frustrated.

Hopefully the messaging is about to change under Wright and everyone is on the same page.
 
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