List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[bluesDeluxe]

We need to free up his list spot.

Absolutely

 

[ferrisb]

Ollie is only 9 months older than Binns, same birth year, same draft year.

Different super balance?

 

[Stamos]

Just counted everyone. By my calculations we have 2 spots at the moment.

if we remove Elijah and White we will have 4 spots available which is my expectations

Only question is then do we need one more?

The only reason we would need a 5th spot is if we're going to trade for extra 2025 picks before the draft.
I think that is unlikely, and would go against our apparent goals.
If we're going to go for extra 2025 picks we would live-trade on draft night, and if we're going to do a trade before then I would assume it will be for future pick/s.

 

[Soapy V]

The only reason we would need a 5th spot is if we're going to trade for extra 2025 picks before the draft.
I think that is unlikely, and would go against our apparent goals.
If we're going to go for extra 2025 picks we would live-trade on draft night, and if we're going to do a trade before then I would assume it will be for future pick/s.

What about DFA or SSP? My read is we will pick 3 in draft (maybe 4 if we take Gresham?) then get a mature KPD through DFA or SSP

 

[ferrisb]

Fog was only ever at best a good, honest toilet

I hate dishonest toilets!!!

 

[bluesDeluxe]

I’ve already answered this multiple times. Can you really not count into the 40s, or are you trolling?
After this post I’m going to assume the latter.

We currently have 2 list spots with Binns cut.
Lij would make 3.
And we can open another Senior list spot by cutting the uncontracted Rookie White.

You must be the troll because cutting rookies doesn't free up primary list spots to be used in the ND.

Cutting white just takes the rookie list back to the maximum 6

 

[Stamos]

What about DFA or SSP? My read is we will pick 3 in draft (maybe 4 if we take Gresham?) then get a mature KPD through DFA or SSP

It very much looks like 3 in the ND and then 1 more DFA/SSP/Rookie.
So I don't think we would need to open a 5th spot.
And I'd be pretty surprised if we take Gresham.

 

[AlecDuncan]

He could possibly have been a decent midfielder but he's not a forwards arseh*le.

Even Stephen Wells makes mistakes.

 

[bluesDeluxe]

Wonder if this is motivated by having 54 as a live pick for points?

Possibly

It goes back to what I've been trying to say the last week or so. To take 4 picks to the ND, we need 4 open list spots on the primary list.

At the moment we have 3

 

[Stamos]

You must be the troll because cutting rookies doesn't free up primary list spots to be used in the ND.

Cutting white just takes the rookie list back to the maximum 6

But cutting White opens up a senior list spot, because it reduces our total list numbers (Senior and Cat A) by 1.
Right now we have 2 list spots. Cutting White would make 3, and they would all be Senior List spots.
If we don't cut a Rookie we have to elevate one.

Surely you can't be this dense?

 

[The Bighouse]

No one really gets 1-year deals unless you're over 30, you have massive injury history or your career is hanging by a thread.

If you are best 30 or so and playing some senior games, you're getting a two-year extension.

Sometimes this will come back to bite you. Cost of doing business.

#35 Billy Wilson

 

[bluesDeluxe]

But cutting White opens up a senior list spot, because it reduces our total list numbers (Senior and Cat A) by 1.
Right now we have 2 list spots. Cutting White would make 3, and they would all be Senior List spots.
If we don't cut a Rookie we have to elevate one.

Surely you can't be this dense?

You aren't taking into consideration the primary list. The primary list is what matters for the ND.

What is your definition of a senior list spot??

 

[CoachB]

"It’s the same with Saad, we don’t use him to his strengths then call him a liability."

He looked like a liability when he jogged to the ball on the goal line and Watson zoomed past picked it up and snapped a goal without a finger on him!

 

[CoachB]

Just counted everyone. By my calculations we have 2 spots at the moment.

if we remove Elijah and White we will have 4 spots available which is my expectations

Only question is then do we need one more?

Soap, what would you do with one more?

 

[Stamos]

You aren't taking into consideration the primary list. The primary list is what matters for the ND.

What is your definition of a senior list spot??

It's called the Senior List, hasn't been 'Primary' for ages.

And the numbers are fluid between 36 and 38.
So because we have run with 36, and have since the numbers got cut in 2020, we can open up 2 Senior List spots (ie National Draft Picks) by cutting 2 Rookies.

We currently have 1 too many Rookies.
1 either gets elevated to the Senior List (which doesn't change our List numbers), or cut, which creates 1 more Senior List spot.

 

[Soapy V]

Soap, what would you do with one more?

I am not sure what we will do. My only thinking is do we also pick up Gresham and also get a DFA/SSP like Phillips or Frost which IMO we need

 

[Big Delut]

You aren't taking into consideration the primary list. The primary list is what matters for the ND.

What is your definition of a senior list spot??

We've been using the maximum amount of rookie listed players allowed but that isn't necessary. You don't need to have a 36 (Senior) + 6 (Rookie) split if you don't want to. Given you're allowed to have up to 38 Senior listed players on your list, it does open up a spot for the ND by delisting a Rookie listed player in our current situation.

 

[Soapy V]

He could possibly have been a decent midfielder but he's not a forwards arseh*le.

Agree. Fogarty like Durdin is a midfielder trying to be made into something he is not.

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

Can’t kick, can’t play

Can't bat, bowl or throw either by all reports.

 

[Sector 7G]

He could possibly have been a decent midfielder but he's not a forwards arseh*le.

The reality is that he is too small, not quick and not a good kick. That means is is never going to be an AFL standard mid. Pressure forward is the only place he has a chance to make it. Unfortunately not being a good kick makes that role tough. Had a good game against GCS and should have had 3 goals but missed 2 sitters which unfortunately gets him dropped.

Tough work managing a list now with the Covid reduction in list size despite 23 players now on the team.

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

I hate dishonest toilets!!!

Yeah but you can always rely on finding a few good nuggets in them.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Wonder if this is motivated by having 54 as a live pick for points?

Im also certain the 4th pick would just be a rookie upgrade and allow us to take 54 into the draft.

Dont see the point paying out contracted players to take a 4th speculative pick at the end of a weak draft.

 

[HarryFlashman]

"It’s the same with Saad, we don’t use him to his strengths then call him a liability."

He looked like a liability when he jogged to the ball on the goal line and Watson zoomed past picked it up and snapped a goal without a finger on him!

As Ted Lasso says
“I hope that all of us, or none of us are judged by the actions of our weakest moments but rather by the strength we show when or if we are given a second chance.”

That was very shit by him, he’s also done a lot more good things than poor

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

As Ted Lasso says
“I hope that all of us, or none of us are judged by the actions of our weakest moments but rather by the strength we show when or if we are given a second chance.”

That was very shit by him, he’s also done a lot more good things than poor

I don't know why we didn't go after Ted for one of our assistant coaching roles this year.
Maybe the distance is a bit much for him after his stint at AFC Richmond. He's a strong family man.

 

[Ninja Worrier]

BluesDeluxe I wouldn't argue with Stamos on list numbers