List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

For all our sake I hope Lij takes the most of this opportunity.

He is one step away from being out of the AFL despite his immense talent. Make the most of it.

 

[Stamos]

So, we have:

32 Senior
6 Cat A
2 Cat B

players for the 1st list lodgement.


I reckon by far the most likely scenario from here is 3 in the ND and elevate a Rookie (Hudson O'Keefe), and then the 1 vacancy for the SSP.

 

[Stamos]

I would and did because he was wrong. List changes announced confirm this

 

[ctwenty1]

It would be that if he gets the SSP spot, it would continue as normal, and if he doesn't, we will pay him out.

Ahhh

Wasnt aware you could do that

so provides him the focus (and time) he needs to demonstrate he is fully committed, and serious

 

[bluesDeluxe]

Delist him and invite to pre season training

The fact is, we will need to take at least 4 picks into the draft for matching and swapping purposes.

We have 2 spots available now.

Therefore 2 of the below will need to be delisted

Binns
Hollands
Mcgovern
Boyd.

If we take a DFA before the draft, then 3 will need to be delisted.

My bet is is will be 2 delisted.

Take a maximum of 3 in the draft, leaving 1 spot for a dfa post draft.

 

[Stamos]

But we only had 1 spot available when you wrote that, not 2.
And then we cut Will White to create the 4th spot.

 

[The Bighouse]

So, we have:

32 Senior
6 Cat A
2 Cat B

players for the 1st list lodgement.


I reckon by far the most likely scenario from here is 3 in the ND and elevate a Rookie (Hudson O'Keefe), and then the 1 vacancy for the SSP.

Think we have to keep a rookie spot open if we’re offering train-on positions already/SSP.

 

[Diamond Jim 007]

So, we have:

32 Senior
6 Cat A
2 Cat B

players for the 1st list lodgement.


I reckon by far the most likely scenario from here is 3 in the ND and elevate a Rookie (Hudson O'Keefe), and then the 1 vacancy for the SSP.

That is spot on what is going to happen.
The train on spot will be a very hard decision.
Will it be based on needs or ability.

If you were going for talent you'd go Elijah.
If you were looking for attitude, guts & determination you'd go for White!!
And a few others such as Jaiydn Stephenson in mix for final spot.

 

[Aphrodite]

As of 24th October after today's list changes:-


32 Senior players
6 Category A Rookies
2 Category B Rookie


2025
34. Rob Monahan (International Rookie Cat B)
41. Matt Duffy (International Rookie Cat B) ?
44. Francis Evans (Pre-Season SSP Rookie 2025) ?
45. Flynn Young (MSD Rookie 2025) ?

 

[carlton_99]

Happy with those decisions and still a chance Elijah returns which I think would be great IF the club think any issues can be resolved. Gotta put faith in them to make that decision.

Odd there hasn't been any confirmation about deals for Evans, Young, and Charleson

Overall, looks like we will take 3 at the draft and leave 1 for SSP.

 

[Austin89]

Think we have to keep a rookie spot open if we’re offering train-on positions already/SSP.

If we are inviting White back to train who is a small forward we should invite one of the better state league smalls forwards like Foot , Gore and Conforti as well to train over summer as well and pick the best performer

 

[lukep_86]

Hoping Lij takes this opportunity by the horns and makes the most of this last chance.

 

[CarmenSandiego]

I liked Whites zip but he seems a really poor kick & goal-sense not where it needed to be for a senior small fwd.

Great move re: Elijah. If he's deadly serious he will train his ass off and get on the list via SSP. If he goes through the motions then he's done.

 

[Jimmae]

For all our sake I hope Lij takes the most of this opportunity.

He is one step away from being out of the AFL despite his immense talent. Make the most of it.

Not really: Will Phillips is also available.

We can also probably afford to delist Boyd or L.Young and grab Derksen.

If we are inviting White back to train who is a small forward we should invite one of the better state league smalls forwards like Foot , Gore and Conforti as well to train over summer as well and pick the best performer

There's only so many players we are allowed to invite to train on per available list spot (2), and there's insurance costs and wages to pay (relatively minor).

I liked Whites zip but he seems a really poor kick & goal-sense not where it needed to be for a senior small fwd.

Goal sense was fine? Was also one of the best in AFL for kicking efficiency in the F50. He worked his backside off and sprayed a few shots as a result.

If he can't boost his fitness levels further, he'll need to work on getting himself into better positions so he has time and space to steady. I'd back him to add muscle and go from there, but not really super keen on the list spot being used that way considering the DFA availabilities and having thrown Motlop a lifeline.

 

[thefrog]

I hope that White is selected to play on, he plays with passion and love for the jumper. He’s exactly what we need in the locker room at the club

 

[Shambolic]

That is spot on what is going to happen.
The train on spot will be a very hard decision.
Will it be based on needs or ability.

If you were going for talent you'd go Elijah.
If you were looking for attitude, guts & determination you'd go for White!!
And a few others such as Jaiydn Stephenson in mix for final spot.

White came to us with nothing and on nothing. hes quite likely to do the same and go for the reserves / chance for mid season / injury etc

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

If Twomeys mail of us being keen on Dovaston is correct, we could be lining up something like this across 2026. Definitely not a rebuilding side with a very good senior group still there to support the kids. I'd suspect a 10th-6th place finish.

If we then have another strong off season in 2026 adding Cody + a free agent or two we could be back playing deep into finals sooner than we think.


Lachie Cowan - Jacob Weitering

23

Jacob Weitering

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

- Harry Dean
Ollie Florent - Nick Haynes

26

Nick Haynes

Age

33

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

- Nic Newman

24

Nic Newman

Age

32

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

13.7

5star

HB

5.9

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

3.3

5star

MG

400.8

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

MG

157.0

3star

D

22.4

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.6

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

3.6

5star

MG

387.8

5star

Sam Walsh

18

Sam Walsh

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.1

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

5.1

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

3.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

26.2

5star

K

15.4

5star

HB

10.8

5star

M

6.0

5star

T

3.2

5star

CL

4.8

5star

- Patrick Cripps

9

Patrick Cripps

Age

30

Ht

195cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.9

5star

K

9.8

4star

HB

16.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

5.8

5star

CL

7.4

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

10.1

4star

HB

10.9

5star

M

2.5

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

6.3

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

CL

1.4

4star

- Campbell Chesser
Marc Pittonet

27

Marc Pittonet

Age

29

Ht

202cm

Wt

107kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.7

2star

K

2.9

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

22.3

5star

D

8.6

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.0

3star

CL

3.7

5star

HO

25.9

5star

D

5.8

2star

K

1.2

1star

HB

4.6

4star

CL

2.4

5star

HO

16.6

5star

- Jagga Smith - George Hewett

29

George Hewett

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

Ben Ainsworth - Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

27

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

- Elijah Hollands
Ashton Moir - Hudson O'Keefe - Will Hayward

Adam Cerra - Zac Williams - Lachie Dovaston - Ollie Hollands - Adam Saad

42

Adam Saad

Age

31

Ht

178cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.5

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

MG

349.1

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.4

3star

MG

388.3

5star

D

17.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.2

3star

Really do hope Elijah can have a big pre season and earn that one last chance with the club. His ball use is the best we have on the list imo.

Kemp and Cotters stiff to miss out but it's purely a matter of hypotheticals this far out.

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

It would be that if he gets the SSP spot, it would continue as normal, and if he doesn't, we will pay him out.

It also gives the club a bit of breathing space to make a final call.

Basically, he's got around 4 months to demonstrate that he's got his shit together and worthy of the last spot on the list.

 

[Stamos]

Think we have to keep a rookie spot open if we’re offering train-on positions already/SSP.

Yeah, elevating a Rookie (Skull) after the draft creates that spot.

 

[katmanblue]

Thithorpe is a freakin unit, only 23yrs, might take Harry a while if he can even get anywhere near that, great if he gets close..

Do they drug test when players are out injured for over 12 months?

 

[The Bighouse]

If we are inviting White back to train who is a small forward we should invite one of the better state league smalls forwards like Foot , Gore and Conforti as well to train over summer as well and pick the best performer

More of a courtesy & encouragement with WW (hopeful he’ll be in our VFL squad for next year too) but our forwards are covered ATM.

Knock the door down and maybe a capable MSD pick, if required.

Is it 2, 3 or 4 players allowed to train-on per open position (1 which we’ll have & 2 players allocated)?

 

[Bletch]

More of a courtesy & encouragement with WW (hopeful he’ll be in our VFL squad for next year too) but our forwards are covered ATM.

Knock the door down and maybe a capable MSD pick, if required.

Is it 2, 3 or 4 players allowed to train-on per open position (1 which we’ll have & 2 players allocated)?

I think it's 2 per. There's also a maximum total, 4 or 6, don't recall.

 

[Jimmae]

If Twomeys mail of us being keen on Dovaston is correct, we could be lining up something like this across 2026. Definitely not a rebuilding side with a very good senior group still there to support the kids. I'd suspect a 10th-6th place finish.

If we then have another strong off season in 2026 adding Cody + a free agent or two we could be back playing deep into finals sooner than we think.


Lachie Cowan - Jacob Weitering - Harry Dean
Ollie Florent - Nick Haynes - Nic Newman

Sam Walsh - Patrick Cripps - Campbell Chesser
Marc Pittonet - Jagga Smith - George Hewett

Ben Ainsworth - Harry McKay - Elijah Hollands
Ashton Moir - Hudson O'Keefe - Will Hayward

Adam Cerra - Zac Williams - Lachie Dovaston - Ollie Hollands - Adam Saad


Really do hope Elijah can have a big pre season and earn that one last chance with the club. His ball use is the best we have on the list imo.

Kemp and Cotters stiff to miss out but it's purely a matter of hypotheticals this far out.

That line-up barely moves the needle on our speed and endurance issues, while improving foot skills in maybe one spot on the ground, or two.

This is why I'm not a huge fan of grabbing Dovaston, or leaving Acres and McGovern out of the team by default. Kemp might not be able to front up for round 1, but he'd be in ahead of one of the rucks IMO.

 

[yibbida]

44. Francis Evans (Pre-Season SSP Rookie 2025) ?

Frank's situation is a weird one. There were a few articles on AFL.COM.AU that suggested we had given him another year, but there has been no official announcement on our webpage or social media accounts.

Sign him up already!

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

That line-up barely moves the needle on our speed and endurance issues, while improving foot skills in maybe one spot on the ground, or two.

This is why I'm not a huge fan of grabbing Dovaston, or leaving Acres and McGovern out of the team by default. Kemp might not be able to front up for round 1, but he'd be in ahead of one of the rucks IMO.

Florent, Chesser, Ainsworth and Hayward are all considerable upgrades in terms of our speed and endurance issues. I'd much rather others outside of Dovaston but if we end up selecting him I'm not going to kick up much of a stink.