List Mgmt. 2025 List Management III 📃

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List Mgmt. - 2025 List Management II 📃

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[The Bighouse]

Lacks star power, but that's better than I was expecting.

And then the elders/the rest

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

If we manage to trade up for 6 and Sharp is on the board I hope we call his name....Sharp, Walker and Smith sets up our core midfield for a decade

Deuteronomy 8:11-17:

Make certain that you do not forget the Lord

 

[ferrisb]

And then the elders/the rest
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That is very close to our best 23...

 

[The Bighouse]

That is very close to our best 23...

So, we do or don’t have depth…?

 

[Soapy V]

And then the elders/the rest
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I hope by end of pre season we are seeing some names like HOK, Moir, Motlop, Smith, Dean, Chesser, Wilson, Ison, Charleson, Campo twins etc as Best 23.

The side you have named is the staus quo but over next 12 months we need to go past names like Young, Saad, Haynes, Newman, Acres etc.

We need the next gen stepping up and getting games and pushing others out based on form

 

[SurreyBlue]

And then the elders/the rest
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No Ollie or Motlop?.

 

[Red Bull]

Seems some have learnt nothing from the meaningless late season “Teaguetrain” sugar hits …

 

[ferrisb]

No Ollie or Motlop?.

Poster started with a 'best of youth' list and then did a 'rest of the list'.

They were rightfully included in the best 23yo and under list.

 

[The Bighouse]

I hope by end of pre season we are seeing some names like HOK, Moir, Motlop, Smith, Dean, Chesser, Wilson, Ison, Charleson, Campo twins etc as Best 23.

The side you have named is the staus quo but over next 12 months we need to go past names like Young, Saad, Haynes, Newman, Acres etc.

We need the next gen stepping up and getting games and pushing others out based on form

This was the leftovers from the 23 & unders as exhibit A as the 1st view of our list makeup.

 

[Benaly28]

We don’t need star power,we need 23 players just playing their role.

 

[katmanblue]

Charleston reminds me alot of Sinclair.

Yes please

 

[katmanblue]

We now have surplus in that area soap.

In numbers, yes. But quality remains to be proven.

 

[katmanblue]

He’d be 34

With more mongrel than any of our current lot.

 

[The Bighouse]

We don’t need star power,we need 23 players just playing their role.

But you need a point of difference with your players. You can have some role players but you also need something that sets you apart from the run of the mill, whether that’s craft, elusive, pace, kicking (mandatory), vision, smarts, marking etc.

If they all work to their strengths and follow their defined roles then we can get moving as a team.

As long as the required endeavour is there and there’s baseline standards held by everyone each day we’re all good.

 

[marcmurphy3]

We don’t need star power,we need 23 players just playing their role.

We really need both. One of our big issues this season was our stars not playing like stars. Need Cripps, Weitering, Walsh, Cerra, McKay to fire to be a chance of making the 8.

 

[ctwenty1]

We really need both. One of our big issues this season was our stars not playing like stars. Need Cripps, Weitering, Walsh, Cerra, McKay to fire to be a chance of making the 8.

Everyone needs to be contributing to their level

 

[bradfisher14]

We don’t need star power,we need 23 players just playing their role.

We've arguably had the most "star power" in the league and it's gotten us one prelim appearance. Time to change IMO.

 

[Sin City]

From defence with NO run last year we now have Charleson Wilson Saad Boyd Ollie Chesser Florent Lucas Carroll Flynn Cottrell that can all play as running defenders

All of sudden we seem more mobile and have more run all over the ground

There’s a lot of potential there but they need a game plan that will allow them to link up and run. If it’s another year of kicking long to the contest it won’t matter how many good runners we have.

 

[Soapy V]

There’s a lot of potential there but they need a game plan that will allow them to link up and run. If it’s another year of kicking long to the contest it won’t matter how many good runners we have.

Could not agree more

If we come into Rd One without any significant change to this Voss is gone by mid year

 

[Crippa#9]

Could not agree more

If we come into Rd One without any significant change to this Voss is gone by mid year

Have it good authority Charlie stays if Voss was replaced end of this year.
If Voss is sacked mid season next year and we've lost them both? Would be the most Carlton thing ever.

Put simply, there is ALOT riding on the first 8 games in 2026.

 

[Stamos]

Have it good authority Charlie stays if Voss was replaced end of this year.

Charlie who was shopping himself around mid year at the latest?

 

[ctwenty1]

Have it good authority Charlie stays if Voss was replaced end of this year.
If Voss is sacked mid season next year and we've lost them both? Would be the most Carlton thing ever.

Put simply, there is ALOT riding on the first 8 games in 2026.

I dont know how I feel about that first statement to be honest

Kind of happy Charlie is gone given that attitude, but then dissappointed we have lost his obvious talent

 

[Crippa#9]

Charlie who was shopping himself around mid year at the latest?

Not sure have just been told by someone pretty close to the situation that the relationship had broken down badly. Voss wanted a certain way, Charlie wanted another.

Still felt all along the club, Voss, the leaders would have mended bridges and found a way to move forward together but evidently it was more serious than I thought...

 

[Soapy V]

Not sure have just been told by someone pretty close to the situation that the relationship had broken down badly. Voss wanted a certain way, Charlie wanted another.

Still felt all along the club, Voss, the leaders would have mended bridges and found a way to move forward together but evidently it was more serious than I thought...

I was told early in year that Voss's relationship with Senior players and group had really deteriorated. Game plan etc

Charlie had given up early and wanted out from start of year. Relationship with Voss was strained because Charlie simply didn't care or try. This was actually an issue amongst playing group as Charlie had been given everything by coaches and club and still gave up

The fact Wright has backed Voss says to me it is still repairable and maybe moving people like Charlie wil help that? I was told we were happy to move Charlie on and just played game to maximise trade which we did

I am not a fan of Voss and doubt his coaching but I squarely put Charlie issues on Charlie (although Voss pandered to him for too long). He sooked it when things didn't go his way and it angered a lot of players including our leaders

I hope that by moving Charlie on and Voss hopefully treating everyone by same standards things will really improve. As I have stated many times this is my main concern. IMO we cannot improve unless these things are sorted

 

[marcmurphy3]

I was told early in year that Voss's relationship with Senior players and group had really deteriorated. Game plan etc

Charlie had given up early and wanted out from start of year. Relationship with Voss was strained because Charlie simply didn't care or try. This was actually an issue amongst playing group as Charlie had been given everything by coaches and club and still gave up

The fact Wright has backed Voss says to me it is still repairable and maybe moving people like Charlie wil help that? I was told we were happy to move Charlie on and just played game to maximise trade which we did

I am not a fan of Voss and doubt his coaching but I squarely put Charlie issues on Charlie (although Voss pandered to him for too long). He sooked it when things didn't go his way and it angered a lot of players including our leaders

I hope that by moving Charlie on and Voss hopefully treating everyone by same standards things will really improve. As I have stated many times this is my main concern. IMO we cannot improve unless these things are sorted

Its a tough one.

On one hand you dont want the tail wagging the dog. But if the coach is really rubbish, and players are providing feedback/resistence, it's justified. You cant just label it player problem.

On the other hand theres a right and wrong way to provide feedback. Say what you need to the decision makers, but in training and on game day give your all. If you cant accept the direction ask for a trade at the end of the year.

There is never an excuse for sooking it up and not trying which is what we saw from Charlie and speaks to his leadership/character.