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Looks like your hands are full 'reaching around' so you wouldn't have time ...
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If we use a late-ish draft pick after Ison, then it would be less speculative to select a young KPD than a KPF.
HOF could very well have better Big Forward attributes than a lot of this years KPF's.
The question is always is there one that is any good? You don't select one for the heck of it
With HOK Dean HOF still developing we need some bigger bodies to fill roles at least in short term. I think that is why we are looking at Phillips and Paea
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Phillips or Paea would give us more immediate KPP coverage, and that's sensible.(and these 2 also shouldn't be selected unless they're good enough)
I'm just less confident about talent scouts nailing good KPF selections compared to KPD's, and also believe HOF's attack on the ball and aerial game could very well be suitable to the forward line.
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Are we definitely looking at Phillips to take up a SSP spot or is that just what you think? Could he just be assisting with numbers at training?
I don't know for sure but they wouldn't be there if not being considered. We don't waste time on these things
IMO it's obvious that we need a mature KPD as back up and Phillips is the obvious one for many reasons. JMO
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Just wondering Flynn Reily nominated for the draft and if not, how will the club get him on to our playing list ?
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Paea is very much a mature medium forward. He looks lighter than his overage year in the U18s honestly. Very talented, had a good year for Werribee in 2023, but clearly hasn't always had the thirst for taking himself to he next level.
We're just doing due diligence on the VFL listed talent really, I don't see this as indicative of much.
FWIW, Will Phillips is training at St Kilda.
Looks like he will be left waiting unless another club picks him up. I like him and would love us to find a spot for the young man, but the signing of Reidy and a shortage of spots probably leaves him in limbo.
Hopefully stays with our VFL program and continues to develop, hopefully getting more sessions with the AFL boys. Mid season draft could become an option if a spot opens up, but one would think we need KPD coverage with HOF down for most of the year.
OāKeeffe came back huge after last off season, but was lighter in our first training footage. Clearly we have decided he is forward first. With his history of soft tissue injuries, it would seem we have decided to slow or limit him bulking up.
We have a season to assess the pecking order with Pitto and Reidy, then future list requirements can be identified, along with the development of Flynn Riley. While not an athletic jumping ruckman, the extra couple of centimetres Riley has, may be a positive with the revised rule interpretation.
Edit: Zac Harding may be in a similar boat. Not sure if he stays with us if he does not get drafted. Under sized for a ruck, but has decent forward craft, and we are likely to need some tall forwards in the twos.
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Wonder had long Jagga will get before some part of his game is canned as not being elite enough
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First time he dump kicks inside 50 from a stoppage, or gets caught holding the ball.
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stratosphere maybe not, but different level? 100%.
At least with Saad a more limited player now...
Yeah, but he then dominated all season in the VFL. It's not like hes played AFL and failed. Never really been given a go. I'd personally back VFL form over pre-season training form which is a bit more subjective.
Liam McMahon also didn't impress us last year either and that's looking like a mistake.
They struggled against all Australian key forwards and defenders. Think we might have be a little harsh on them. LM struggled to touch it against Weiters when played for* despite being pretty good in most of his other games.
This will be a defining factor if we are to improve & progress, all aligned with better implementations of D50 exits & F50 entriesā¦
Improvement across the lines allowing new ideas in strategic methods for improving movement to these areas, not just the same crap we serve up every week..
Some more imagination and creativity needs to be seriously addedā¦
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Yep & Paea was behind Carlton's favourite son, Callum Moore at local level. I'd be surprised if we picked up either.
So if we landed Dean, Marsh and Ison this year and Walker next year, how does this look going into 2027 :
Florent Weitering Dean
Cowan OāFarrell Chesser
Walsh Cripps Hollands
Hayward Kemp Moir
Ainsworth McKay Marsh
OāKeefe Cerra Smith
Lord Walker Ison Motlop Wilson
Lord = mid rotation
Walker/Ison = wing/hf/mid rotation
Motlop = forward rotation
Wilson = defensive rotation
Itās a very mobile, dangerous forward formation.
* With a lot of the current senior core having moved on, there will be plenty of salary cap space available to attack the FA market with real gusto ā¦
Florent Weitering Dean
Cowan OāFarrell Chesser
Walsh Cripps Hollands
Hayward Kemp Moir
Ainsworth McKay Marsh
OāKeefe Cerra Smith
Lord Walker Ison Motlop Wilson
Lord = mid rotation
Walker/Ison = wing/hf/mid rotation
Motlop = forward rotation
Wilson = defensive rotation
Itās a very mobile, dangerous forward formation.
* With a lot of the current senior core having moved on, there will be plenty of salary cap space available to attack the FA market with real gusto ā¦
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But is it.. he has played some okay games in a very poor side that had a longer injury list than we had in 24. If we had McMahon, do we expose HOK, does he prevent Moir from developing further?
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Just reviewing our list and contract situations, we have a lot of fringe players coming out of contract at end of 2026..
Adam Saad
Ben Camporeale
Billy Wilson
Flynn Young
Francis Evans
Harry Charleson
Hudson O'keefe
Jordan Boyd
Lochie Fogarty
Lewis Young
Lucas Campo
Matt Duffy
Mitch McGovern
Nic Newman
Nick Haynes
Oli Hollands
Rob Monahan
Sam Walsh.
Sam Walsh is obviously the #1 priority to re-sign, but is no guarantee especially if we have another poor year, outside of this I would think only Ollie Hollands, Nic Newman and Hudson Okeefe are guarantees.. I would expect Saad to retire and then Boyd, Fogarty, Lewis Young to be delisted and the rest would be no more than a 50/50 to be kept on.
Adam Saad
Ben Camporeale
Billy Wilson
Flynn Young
Francis Evans
Harry Charleson
Hudson O'keefe
Jordan Boyd
Lochie Fogarty
Lewis Young
Lucas Campo
Matt Duffy
Mitch McGovern
Nic Newman
Nick Haynes
Oli Hollands
Rob Monahan
Sam Walsh.
Sam Walsh is obviously the #1 priority to re-sign, but is no guarantee especially if we have another poor year, outside of this I would think only Ollie Hollands, Nic Newman and Hudson Okeefe are guarantees.. I would expect Saad to retire and then Boyd, Fogarty, Lewis Young to be delisted and the rest would be no more than a 50/50 to be kept on.
I query Nic Newman - lets see how he goes this year but he is defintely getting on
There are also many players that are great teammates and play a role.
Many players also step up the better the standard
We need a back up KPD and I reckon Phillips is the best available. I would love Sam Taylor or Harris Andrews but they seem unlikely
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