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I'd almost adjust it so it's enough average goals to reach 30 goals for the season but only include games where Darcy plays.
I don't really expect goals from our no.1 ruck every game. If one or two come that's fantastic but every week is a high expectation for anyone. If he's playing most of the game forward that obviously changes things.
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Freo BF and talking up our NGA prospects a year out, name a more iconic duo.
Hope it pans out though
I think our opinion of how Jackson is playing is largely dependant on whether we are winning games. After last week I don't think we're really happy with anyone at the moment other than Murphy Reid
Exactly, he needs to be taking contested marks around the ground, playing midfield minutes, kicking goals and doing unicorn things. But to do that we need a number one ruck to take the load off Jacko... looking at you Darcy.
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I reckon every club would be just as iconic, except the Northern clubs as they're probably not wrong.
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I think Simon Madden started off as a forward as a youngster way back in the mid 70's. I've heard his interview with Glenn Mitchell on that Great Sporting Lives series that is archived on Sport FM. Recommended listening as he's got a good sense of humour with his storytelling.
But also there were dual ruck/forwards during his time. Like he was back up to Crackers Keenan for a couple of years and had his younger brother there as combo in the early 80's, and then Paul Salmon came in. Later Peter Somerville. More so in the latter half of the 80's he was the dominant ruck of the VFL/AFL comp.
When you look at ruck stats you get a period in the late 80's through to the mid 90's where the hit out totals for the leading ruckman for the year are around the 350 - 400 mark, whereas from the mid 90's and into the 2000's it's starts going up to the 500's and 600's and keep increasing every year. On the surface it suggests over time AFL has become more of a stoppage game.
If you look back at the earlier 80's there's Gary Dempsey getting 900 plus hitouts for the year. Maybe it was something to do with the condition of the grounds, with those winter mudheaps that you would see on TV, but perhaps it could also be something to do with the way the game was umpired, where you see games with 80-90 free kicks every week in the late 80's during that period where ruck hitouts were at the lower end.
Edit: Sure to be of other reasons why the hitout numbers of the rucks went down then up again. More centre bounces from higher goalscoring games probably one factor in the fluctuation.
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If it spread the money out and didn't increase it what's the point from Jackson's camp?
If he's contracted until 2029 on 900k a year they'll be chasing another 4 years around the 900k mark a season.
For the money he's on Jackson should be in the top 3 players on the ground a few times a season. I don't expect him to dominate and be one of the best players in the comp at this stage but from time to time he needs a big ten minutes that turns the game like Murphy Reid did.
If Jackson had one big quarter in the last month of the season we would have made the 8 last year. Not necessarily a 4 goal quarter like Reid but an 8 possession 4 mark 2 goal quarter would have been enough.
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i dont see how he justifies an extension
Let's be honest, he would've hit the trigger anyway, so idc about this really, better to have him locked in
I'd say by the end of this season he probably would've only been a few games off a trigger, bloke hasn't missed
I'd say by the end of this season he probably would've only been a few games off a trigger, bloke hasn't missed
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What's Gossage on about Cripps looking to come back to WA?
Probably when he retires
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The main problem I have with him being #1 ruck is it is too structured for his skillset.
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Every other game I've watched has further cemented my opinion that shoe-horning Draper, Cox, Ryan and Pearce into a backline is just not going to work. There is not enough speed or good enough ball users.
Additionally I don't think the midfield has enough size and Sharp and Noddy are too poor a kick when Brayshaw and Serong are good enough but not elite.
Fear not, I have scoured the BF threads and stolen a bunch of ideas to solve the problem:
1) Get Pickett. Massive upgrade on Switta offensively while losing minimal defensively.
2) One of Simpson or Switta must move back. Possibly both depending on what we have in Whan.
3) Cox goes forward permanently. Ill die on hill he's better up there than down back.
4) Jackson becomes the ruck/mid he's supposed to be (needs Darcy on the park)
5) We can not carry ball butcher wings without incredible kicks in the middle to offset. Chappy goes to a wing. Only one of Noddy and Sharp allowed.
There, Freo solved
Additionally I don't think the midfield has enough size and Sharp and Noddy are too poor a kick when Brayshaw and Serong are good enough but not elite.
Fear not, I have scoured the BF threads and stolen a bunch of ideas to solve the problem:
1) Get Pickett. Massive upgrade on Switta offensively while losing minimal defensively.
2) One of Simpson or Switta must move back. Possibly both depending on what we have in Whan.
3) Cox goes forward permanently. Ill die on hill he's better up there than down back.
4) Jackson becomes the ruck/mid he's supposed to be (needs Darcy on the park)
5) We can not carry ball butcher wings without incredible kicks in the middle to offset. Chappy goes to a wing. Only one of Noddy and Sharp allowed.
There, Freo solved
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Draper being good has become a problem. There’s no way they stick with that lineup all season. It’s not going to work. You need to be ruthless and drop the worst of them or move them elsewhere.
We’d be better off letting one of Ryan and Cox go this off season imo
We’d be better off letting one of Ryan and Cox go this off season imo
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Cox for Curtin?
Cox. Not as good as Ryan and worth more. Draper has way more attacking intent than Cox, which you need if AP is your lockdown.
It feels harsh on Cox, but it's a massive waste of resources having all 3 (assuming Draper continues his trajectory).
Yeah agreed. But Ryan would probably be a lot more willing to move back home. Hasn’t set down roots in WA like Cox.
Pure guesswork, but I feel like Ryan is more popular amongst the group.
Someone is going to need to make the call at some stage, because if they don't, it'll just be awkward trying to fit them all in for a season or two before one of them finally gets dropped and asks for a trade anyway.
You don’t solve a problem and create actually the same problem at the same time.
My preference would be for Ryan to go if anyone. He’s slowed our ball movement down for years.
