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But a 190cm 21 year old with strong hands…some team out there would trial that as a deep forward option.
I don't buy this. He has 1 contested mark in 25 AFL games. If it was an AFL standard skill he had we'd have seen some examples by now even running round in the midfield.

For those playing at home he took 2 contested marks in the WAFL last year.

Everyone needs to face facts he ain't making it as anything other than a midfield role player. Even that seems less likely than likely to me without pretty significant improvement in his positioning and composure ball in hand (the last being the hardest to improve).

It'll be 80 games before we'll know if he can do that and how are supposed to get that many into him without compromising our structures?
 
I don't buy this. He has 1 contested mark in 25 AFL games. If it was an AFL standard skill he had we'd have seen some examples by now even running round in the midfield.

For those playing at home he took 2 contested marks in the WAFL last year.

Everyone needs to face facts he ain't making it as anything other than a midfield role player. Even that seems less likely than likely to me without pretty significant improvement in his positioning and composure ball in hand (the last being the hardest to improve).

It'll be 80 games before we'll know if he can do that and how are supposed to get that many into him without compromising our structures?
Tbh I think 80 games into Erasmus doesn't work in two ways.

It isn't good for club if we have better inside mids. It isn't good for his development if he's played in positions he'll never make it in.

He's good enough to stay on the list as depth. The risk is whether someone comes and offers him a better deal. We'll need the depth he provides so I expect he'll be offering him a deal and if he doesn't except it we'll look for someone else that's a similar level player.
 
I don't buy this. He has 1 contested mark in 25 AFL games. If it was an AFL standard skill he had we'd have seen some examples by now even running round in the midfield.

For those playing at home he took 2 contested marks in the WAFL last year.

Everyone needs to face facts he ain't making it as anything other than a midfield role player. Even that seems less likely than likely to me without pretty significant improvement in his positioning and composure ball in hand (the last being the hardest to improve).

It'll be 80 games before we'll know if he can do that and how are supposed to get that many into him without compromising our structures?

Marking is listed in his draft profile as a strength. Also says leading patterns and scoreboard impact. I will admit it is hard to understand where that all comes from, but they don't just make something like that up. Maybe they put too much emphasis on dominating against PSA schoolkids.

He is an odd type of 190cm player, because it seems like he has a really long neck and torso, but his arms and legs are relatively short. I would like to see him stand next to say a 185cm player with their arms stretched upwards and see where the fingertips are.
 

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But a 190cm 21 year old with strong hands…some team out there would trial that as a deep forward option.
To be honest developing his forward craft and contested marking might be the best thing any club could do for him right now and I agree he could easily do it. He's very sturdy in a contest, well balanced, so it seems to be one of the more natural things to develop.

Hell, it could even benefit him as a tagger if that's a future calling. Taggers that can win their own pill and push forward to hit the scoreboard are by far an away the most effective ones. I certainly wouldn't have his papers stamped that's for sure. There's a lot more to work with with Erasmus than there are lot of other fringe players.
 
Is Jamarra worth a punt..understand we have a no dxxkhead policy now in place.. but have we learnt anything from the Hogan stuff up.. is it time to reward ourselves with a recruitment win based on our outstanding culture and turn Jamarra around
 
I don't buy this. He has 1 contested mark in 25 AFL games. If it was an AFL standard skill he had we'd have seen some examples by now even running round in the midfield.

For those playing at home he took 2 contested marks in the WAFL last year.

Everyone needs to face facts he ain't making it as anything other than a midfield role player. Even that seems less likely than likely to me without pretty significant improvement in his positioning and composure ball in hand (the last being the hardest to improve).

It'll be 80 games before we'll know if he can do that and how are supposed to get that many into him without compromising our structures?
Connor Blakely 2.0 ?
 
Is Jamarra worth a punt..understand we have a no dxxkhead policy now in place.. but have we learnt anything from the Hogan stuff up.. is it time to reward ourselves with a recruitment win based on our outstanding culture and turn Jamarra around
That Balta guy from Richmond goes alright, might be worth a punt if we're going down the fully dickhead route.
 
To be honest developing his forward craft and contested marking might be the best thing any club could do for him right now and I agree he could easily do it. He's very sturdy in a contest, well balanced, so it seems to be one of the more natural things to develop.

Hell, it could even benefit him as a tagger if that's a future calling. Taggers that can win their own pill and push forward to hit the scoreboard are by far an away the most effective ones. I certainly wouldn't have his papers stamped that's for sure. There's a lot more to work with with Erasmus than there are lot of other fringe players.
The games played is misleading, how many times as the sub?
How can anyone think that he offers very little, because the coach won’t back him?
Then you have JOM who is 32 next year, and the demise of Fyfe over the last few
years.
Who will be our next contested 187-191cm Bull?
Serong, Brayshaw, Young, will need someone to sacrifice their game for the team.
Nullify the oppositions best player, and get in and under, especially if we can rotate
more players midfield.
Attacking players that can play midfield, Johnson, Bolton, Jackson, Reid, Simpson.
The fact is we need Erasmus, you don’t get that flair without someone applying the
muscle.
Fyfe doesn’t dominate without someone having his back, pretty sure Young will be
targeted because of his offensive skills.
Freo are winning at the moment against other 8-18 ladder teams, but once the pressure
goes up, ie finals type physicality?
If people are happy with a team full of downhill skiers, it’s why Voss in only a short time
has lead the charge.
 
The games played is misleading, how many times as the sub?
How can anyone think that he offers very little, because the coach won’t back him?
Then you have JOM who is 32 next year, and the demise of Fyfe over the last few
years.
Who will be our next contested 187-191cm Bull?
Serong, Brayshaw, Young, will need someone to sacrifice their game for the team.
Nullify the oppositions best player, and get in and under, especially if we can rotate
more players midfield.
Attacking players that can play midfield, Johnson, Bolton, Jackson, Reid, Simpson.
The fact is we need Erasmus, you don’t get that flair without someone applying the
muscle.
Fyfe doesn’t dominate without someone having his back, pretty sure Young will be
targeted because of his offensive skills.
Freo are winning at the moment against other 8-18 ladder teams, but once the pressure
goes up, ie finals type physicality?
If people are happy with a team full of downhill skiers, it’s why Voss in only a short time
has lead the charge.
I’ve been an advocate for Ras and thought it was a little harsh that he was dropped after the round 3 Eagles game. However JOM is ahead of him and for good reason. JOM is 32 next year and I see no reason why he wouldn’t get another season.

Ras whilst an improved showing just hasn’t shown any versatility and when played up forward and on the wing has been poor. He also still needs to improve areas of his game which still showed up in the Eagles game. Speed of decision making is one.

JOM has played wing and MJ also wing.

Erasmus for mine needs to develop his game up forward. Forget Wing. Once he develops his game up forward he will more likely find a spot in the 23.

He is taller than Hayden Young and Sam Sturt so he needs to spend time forward at Peel. If is just looking for midfield role he will linger away at Peel with the odd game as injury replacement and be traded for 3rd rounder next year.
 
Is Jamarra worth a punt..understand we have a no dxxkhead policy now in place.. but have we learnt anything from the Hogan stuff up.. is it time to reward ourselves with a recruitment win based on our outstanding culture and turn Jamarra around
Odds are higher that he becomes a meth addict than a pro footballer at this point.
 

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That Balta guy from Richmond goes alright, might be worth a punt if we're going down the fully dickhead route.
Ouchhhhh! That was scything humour (or reprimand, however you wish to spin it); dripping from a blowtorch blast of caustic eyeroll. I think it went over most people's heads, or...they chose to ignore it cos' you can't align yourself with anything "controversial" these days.

Bravo, bravo :winkv1:

** But also, Balta situation is still a bit stomach-churning sick, should be banned permanently**
 
Looks pretty good freo84, I want one. Do Live streams every time the Dockers play Sydney or West Coast with the camera subtly pointing at the Chad on a table top :tearsofjoy:
 
Looks pretty good freo84, I want one. Do Live streams every time the Dockers play Sydney or West Coast with the camera subtly pointing at the Chad on a table top :tearsofjoy:
Lol how good would that be haha
 
Marking is listed in his draft profile as a strength. Also says leading patterns and scoreboard impact. I will admit it is hard to understand where that all comes from, but they don't just make something like that up. Maybe they put too much emphasis on dominating against PSA schoolkids.
It doesn't have to have been made up, they could just be wrong. They are amateurs afterall. Both his underage and draft year were COVID compromised as well. They had less info to go on than normal. Hell we got the current equal leading goalscorer in the rookie draft for the same reasons.
If there had been a National U18 Carnival in 2021 he wouldn't have gone pick 10 I reckon as his lack of composure under heat would have been exposed. I don't think he ever felt that pressure playing PSA or a handful of colts games, were his physical gifts were so far above the opposition it didn't matter.
 

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Is Jamarra worth a punt..understand we have a no dxxkhead policy now in place.. but have we learnt anything from the Hogan stuff up.. is it time to reward ourselves with a recruitment win based on our outstanding culture and turn Jamarra around
7 west media Perth would roast him from day 1 all the way through to retirement.
Better for him to go to a northern state where the public don't give a shit about the AFL.
That's if he even aspires to play AFL again.
 
I cant help but thinking we are going to get to the end of the season, probably play finals but probably not win the thing (just yet) and we still wont really know if Ras is going to become a player.

Rightly we are playing Worner/Wagner when Walker is injured instead of the aging Aish, yet we wont play Ras in JOMs spot. I really cant see it being a major downgrade, its not like JOMs disposals are that much better than Ras`s and in a full game Ras will probably rack up 20 - 25 possessions, similar to JOM.

I think Ras should be playing in this first half of the season, we just have to find out. Its a footy crime to let him leave to potentially become a good player elsewhere when we`ve invested so much draft capital and time into him.
 
I think a few teams will ask the question of Voss this year. He's better than depth in my opinion.

I agree, as long as he starts kicking his set shots. If he is having four or five shots at goal and kicking two or three then he's way, way too much for WAFL footy.
 
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