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[serial_thrilla]

 

[Alfonz]

Wild theory but do you think it's possible they began the Jackson to Melbourne rumours in an attempt to renegotiate what was a heavily front ended contract that then kick started Jackson's private life becoming far too public? Knowing who McDougall worked with and their relationship with the club, it isn't a long stretch for me.

Don't think it is a wild theory at all. It makes perfect sense. Was going to post the same sort of thing.

It's exactly how Young operated. Get contract talks in the public domain to orchestrate a pay rise, whether it be at the current club or a new club. Actively try to convince players to leave Freo. And McDougall is just a Young copycat.

I would say Jackson regretted it how it played out, and went back to a manager with decency.

I wouldn't mind betting that after being scorned, McDougall is again pushing this narrative with journos as retribution. Young always liked to hold a grudge and hated Freo. Don't see any reason why McDougall would be different.

 

[s_wd6]

I wouldn't mind betting that after being scorned, McDougall is again pushing this narrative with journos as retribution.

Yeah that's my cope too

 

[dominguez]

Melbourne have just played this so all of our bargaining power with Kozzie is gone. They can happily sit back now and say "Jackson or nothing" for Kozzie

I actually reckon this just means neither Jackson nor Kozzie will be traded this year

If Kossie says I'm moving to WA, trade me or I'm FIFO he'll be traded.

 

[Ingeniokinetic]

Ask Max, he's the one fanning the flames. He's your Captain yeah?

Yes, it does appear he was stirring the pot, don't love it either.

 

[s_wd6]

Dover is by far a better player manager than any CSA guy. He'll say the right things now to get the spotlight off Jackson and his personal life but I think there's too much smoke now for a trade request to not eventuate.

 

[Ingeniokinetic]

Yeah okay buddy.

We all know you're frothing at the prospect of Jackson returning. You know that we know that you know what he's worth so why even trot out the damaged goods line?

Jackson turns into superman playing us, but I've seen too much self satisfaction to be frothing at his return. I also carry a grudge from 2022.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Dover is by far a better player manager than any CSA guy. He'll say the right things now to get the spotlight off Jackson and his personal life but I think there's too much smoke now for a trade request to not eventuate.

Nah, going back to Dover is enough hope/cope for me. Back to where I was before Quarterbrains article. Something there (obviously), no guarantee to even request a trade

 

[Freo Big Fella]

The fact this has been revived with the addition of Jacko, his partner and his family being thrown under the bus highlights a couple of things for me;

• Just how desperate Melbourne are - Petracca, Oliver and Kosi all wanting out, Gawn on one leg and being worked into the ground. They're understandably desperate to latch onto any whisper of someone coming the other way.
• This most likely didn't originate within his camp - Dogga's clearly not a rocket scientist, but he's clearly smart enough to understand his personal value and branding; no sane league footballer wants "personal/off field issues" anywhere near their public profile.

Obviously far better if he stays, but I think our hand is far stronger than the Dees' if he genuinely does want out.

 

[s_wd6]

Nah, going back to Dover is enough hope/cope for me. Back to where I was before Quarterbrains article. Something there (obviously), no guarantee to even request a trade

No Dover just chose his words very carefully to imply one thing but if you dig deeper it actually doesn't guarantee anything (I can't get my hopes up again)

 

[mike91]

"pr stunt". lol, way too many egos on this board, honestly. Mitch Cleary did absolutely nothing wrong, never said Jackson wanted out, used his words very well. Mitch is also one of very few good journalists in this sport and knows interstate lists quite well.

Melbourne aren't desperate either, they're just trying to better themselves, which is what every sporting club does. This isn't some petty move because of Kozzie, that's just nuffie mindset.

I remember when people mocked me for this "pr stunt".

Or the nuffies saying "if you believe this, I have a bridge to sell you".

Those same people are now freaking out.

Go figure.

Less egos, more commonsense.

Like I said months ago, Mitch Cleary doesn't make this s**t up, he's very good and uses his words wisely.

 

[Paracleet]

I remember when people mocked me for this "pr stunt".

Or the nuffies saying "if you believe this, I have a bridge to sell you".

Those same people are now freaking out.

Go figure.

Less egos, more commonsense.

Like I said months ago, Mitch Cleary doesn't make this s**t up, he's very good and uses his words wisely.

They weren't mocking you for the pr stunt.

 

[mike91]

They weren't mocking you for the pr stunt.

They were actually, but I'll play along. Why?

 

[Daddoo]

 

[mike91]

On a slightly different topic, it's fairly obvious we're not playing finals, which means (before bids) we have a top 10 pick.

Do people want us to trade two first rounders, knowing one is a top 10ish pick and a high possibility it could be two, for Kozzie?

That's an awful lot and I'm a fan of him

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

On a slightly different topic, it's fairly obvious we're not playing finals, which means (before bids) we have a top 10 pick.

Do people want us to trade two first rounders, knowing one is a top 10ish pick and a high possibility it could be two, for Kozzie?

That's an awful lot and I'm a fan of him

I think the NGA makes it easier. You get to have your cake and eat it too. Whan is looking legit and may force our hand on trading this years first anyway. Robinson looked pretty impressive in his only couple of Colts games and still seems the consensus best WA kid next year.

Remembering how ****ed all these drafts are and its an easier pill to swallow so long as Melbourne give us some points

 

[dominguez]

On a slightly different topic, it's fairly obvious we're not playing finals, which means (before bids) we have a top 10 pick.

Do people want us to trade two first rounders, knowing one is a top 10ish pick and a high possibility it could be two, for Kozzie?

That's an awful lot and I'm a fan of him

If we have a top ten pick we have a new coach.

If we have a new coach, Kossie and Jackson we're a top 6 team next year. Pick 10 and 15 for Kossie looks fair IMO.

Neil Erasmus was a top ten pick. Will Brodie was a top ten pick. Sam Sturt was a first rounder. Picks are over rated. Kossie would be in our top 6 players the moment he walks in the door and is 23 years old.

 

[Dirty_banchez]

So is Jackson telling Melbourne he's going to request a trade to them and also telling Freo that he's not going anywhere? Can he not say no to people?

 

[freo84]

So is Jackson telling Melbourne he's going to request a trade to them and also telling Freo that he's not going anywhere? Can he not say no to people?

 

[gaskin]

So is Jackson telling Melbourne he's going to request a trade to them and also telling Freo that he's not going anywhere? Can he not say no to people?

I don't think he is telling Melbourne anything. I think it is coming from Melbourne players he is still in contact with.

 

[stax on the mull]

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I've seen the coffee making video. Not soy, but oat milk.

 

[sumavich]

Duffield was telling Corn & Gerard this evening that Jackson wants to be Number 1 ruck, so that's part of it.
I'd happily give him number 1, and offload Darcy next year after he gets fit. Or maybe at this year's trade table if he gets fit.
Can't have both, it's been shit List mgt

 

[s_wd6]

Duffield was telling Corn & Gerard this evening that Jackson wants to be Number 1 ruck, so that's part of it.
I'd happily give him number 1, and offload Darcy next year after he gets fit. Or maybe at this year's trade table if he gets fit.
Can't have both, it's been shit List mgt

I know Duff is usually good but I just don't really think this is a deciding factor. Like he knew what he was getting into when he signed on. I think maybe give him more time on ball instead of resting him forward and he'll be happy. And not to mention Gawn still has 2-3 years left in him.

 

[sumavich]

Cliff could come sooner for Gawn, that's what Duffield said as well

 

[s_wd6]

What we really need to do for the benefit of literally everyone involved is play Darcy in the WAFL until he's ready. It literally benefits not a single person having him run out being cooked after the first 10 minutes. The club is soooo scared of hurting the feelings of their big name players so they're never dropped when they need to be.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

What we really need to do for the benefit of literally everyone involved is play Darcy in the WAFL until he's ready. It literally benefits not a single person having him run out being cooked after the first 10 minutes. The club is soooo scared of hurting the feelings of their big name players so they're never dropped when they need to be.

I'm still scratching my head. I'll wait to see the final team before getting too worked up, but like I said yesterday, running Darcy into the ground to accommodate a structure that is too tall seems absurd. We need to drop a tall and here's a chance to do so without hurting anyone's feelings.