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Erasmus should of been ahead of JOM from
about 3-4 games into 2023. It became very apparent JOM couldn’t move. The only valuable games JOM has played for us could be counted on 1 hand, and personally I think 3 games he’s added value to the team in his career with us so far. Two of those games were this year.
If we lose Erasmus while we have Brodie, Fyfe, JOM still on the list we’ve lost the plot.
about 3-4 games into 2023. It became very apparent JOM couldn’t move. The only valuable games JOM has played for us could be counted on 1 hand, and personally I think 3 games he’s added value to the team in his career with us so far. Two of those games were this year.
If we lose Erasmus while we have Brodie, Fyfe, JOM still on the list we’ve lost the plot.
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I'm hardly JOM's biggest fan, but he started the year very well—and was one of our few composed, experienced players at a time when we were mostly losing due to rookie skill errors and decision-making. That's why he's been in the team over Neil Erasmus—next year, I doubt either of them are b22 in injury-free side.
I don't think there's a best 22 spot for any of the players you listed next year. (Brodie goes without saying.) Fyfe is back from injury, and he's been relegated to the sub role—even at his maximum aerobic capacity, I'm not certain he'd be b22, and that becomes even less likely in 2026. Next year, I suspect JOM ends up behind two true wingers in Sharp and Drizzy; he doesn't have the acceleration for inside mid minutes, leaving him "homeless" in our configuration.
Currently, Erasmus is first out for Hayden Young. And Johnson is on a wing, but when there's an inside mid spot available we have repeatedly demonstrated that we'd prefer Johnno playing inside over Erasmus. That's two young players ahead of Erasmus for a b22 spot.
This does not even include the prospect of Murphy Reid getting increased midfield time, Dogga getting midfield time, and the (slimming) possibility of recruiting Kozzy into the side.
It's one thing to pitch your young player hungry for more game time a succession plan behind 30+ year olds; asking Ras to stick around as interminable depth behind an inside midfield full of <25 year olds is a whole other proposition.
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The main reason JOM gets consistent games is the 4-year contract he came in on, and the egg-on-face situation if he wasn’t played for the majority of it. IMO.
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Reading the Ryan Daniel’s article it appears Freo has been completely honest with Pickett and his management.
The article states Kozzi management flew to Melbourne last Wednesday to relay where the situation sits. Fremantle are aware they probably will not have the picks to satisfy Melbourne and his salary will be 750k - 800k where at Melbourne they could offer 1.2 million a season.
I can only see it happening if Freo trade someone like Darcy to match Melbournes offer.
On the plus side the article also states Freo will not consider trading Jackson in any circumstances and an extension may happen.
I will also add that the article says that there is no indication that Pickett has changed his mind about coming to Freo more so that Daniel’s has come to the conclusion that Melbourne being able to offer 300 - 400 thousand more a season will be to hard to knock back which is a fair assumption.
The article states Kozzi management flew to Melbourne last Wednesday to relay where the situation sits. Fremantle are aware they probably will not have the picks to satisfy Melbourne and his salary will be 750k - 800k where at Melbourne they could offer 1.2 million a season.
I can only see it happening if Freo trade someone like Darcy to match Melbournes offer.
On the plus side the article also states Freo will not consider trading Jackson in any circumstances and an extension may happen.
I will also add that the article says that there is no indication that Pickett has changed his mind about coming to Freo more so that Daniel’s has come to the conclusion that Melbourne being able to offer 300 - 400 thousand more a season will be to hard to knock back which is a fair assumption.
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Now consider how real "family reasons" are when you are turning down $400,000 a year to move home for them..
I'd like us to get an early pick to get Rodriguez, he looks a real go-er, but we would probably need to lose a midfielder for that anyway even assuming we retain Erasmus since having two top ten draft picks in the WAFL trying to win a spot in the midfield next year would be astounding riches, assuming we have no need of other types around the ground.
Sorry, three top ten picks. Brodie, Erasmus, Rodriguez.
I'd like us to get an early pick to get Rodriguez, he looks a real go-er, but we would probably need to lose a midfielder for that anyway even assuming we retain Erasmus since having two top ten draft picks in the WAFL trying to win a spot in the midfield next year would be astounding riches, assuming we have no need of other types around the ground.
Sorry, three top ten picks. Brodie, Erasmus, Rodriguez.
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On the JOM debate, he was playing well enough for best 22 at the start of the year IMO but I don't think hes good enough to walk back in and I'd hope Ras' form is seen as good enough to keep his spot unless his form drops off
Which article is this
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True. But he wasn’t a big name recruiting coup, just a massive error in judgment. Probably on a lot less too.
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What and JOM was? I think what you said was just wrong. There is no way a hypothetical reasonable person is going to agree that we are only playing JOM because we traded in him in for the equivalent of a second rounder, with Hawthorn paying his wages for a chunk of it, but are embarrassed, but at the same time are apparently not embarrassed we extended Brodie for 3 years then didn't play him.
We are playing JOM because we lack experienced depth, on field experienced leaders and outside mids who can also play inside. To be fair that's not why he was recruited, but this is how its panned out.
Compromising your midfield to save face come on that's just silly.
JOM gets a game because he can play inside mid, outside mid, wing, HF, HB if required. He is not brilliant but is flexible and he does what he needs to do.
Brodie doesnt get a game because he is a one trick pony as a mid and cant defend.
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There is no way we'd get value for trading Ras at this point.
FFS play him for the rest of the year and offer him a fair deal to stay
FFS play him for the rest of the year and offer him a fair deal to stay
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Agree. He could explode if given the rest of the season. He is just starting to look comfortable. If we lose him now, we will look stupid in 2 years when JOM and Fyfe are gone, and he is doing his thing for someone else.
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Way too early to even discuss Ras' future. At a similar point last season we thought NOD was delist or trade, he fought for his spot as will Ras.
These young blokes want to stay and Ras has already shown once he wants to earn his spot.
Let's see how the second half of the year plays out. It would be silly for him to fight this hard then to leave right as Fyfe is retiring and JOM slowing down.
These young blokes want to stay and Ras has already shown once he wants to earn his spot.
Let's see how the second half of the year plays out. It would be silly for him to fight this hard then to leave right as Fyfe is retiring and JOM slowing down.
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Fair call
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If 4 clubs want him and this draft is as bad as it’s being talked up, maybe we can get a first rounder for him if he stays in the team and continues to develop.
We then use it to then salary dump one or two players or package them up with Ras for a lesser pick. Clear enough to pay Kossi 1m a year in 12 or 24 months and maybe he takes it.
Less depth short term but Kossi.
I do want to keep Ras though but sometimes you need to let them go for their own career like Meek if we can’t offer a spot in the team.
Okay , look Vossy had a shocker against Sydney. The kick into corridor or hitting the post from not far out in the corridor. Eliminate either or both of those and we win. That’s the price we pay to expose players for development.
It also was Patrick’s last ordinary game.
I concede Walters would have kicked that last goal and wouldn’t have k
But we can; We can offer him a spot in the team but we just don’t.
Fyfey and or Jaeger leave this year end and there’s the regular opportunity for Neal right there.
He deserves Freos respect.
And I don’t want to be lowballing him either.
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This reminds me of West Coast a few years back, forced to play a smaller backline but it worked. Unearthed smaller and faster defenders who moved the ball quicker.
If he stays in the side and performs to a high enough level to warrant him being worth a first, then I think both parties would be happy to work something out to stay.
Further, he should be wary of thinking the grass will be greener on the other side. He would likely be a fringe player wherever he goes and would not be guaranteed a game anywhere. I think he is at least a good fit for Freo where we already have gun mids who happen to be small and need help with heavy lifting and grunt work.
If he gets turfed for JOM and Fyfe in the next few weeks, then fair enough, he should look elsewhere. Otherwise I would hope he stays unless a club offers him stupid overs in $$$.
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Remember Rhino’s information will be coming straight from Ras’ manager. That’s not to say it isn’t true but also a way to put extra pressure on Freo re contract dollars etc. if he plays the rest of the year I can’t see him leaving. If he doesn’t, he is mad not to to go.
Erasmus has interest from 4 clubs. Wants to stay
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