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[serial_thrilla]

 

[Cobbler]

Kosi is clearly locked away long term. I know Chad signed an extension BUT could we go down that path again?

We likely didn’t overly pursue because there was a likely belief Kosi was a huge chance.

Now?

Well more dollars for Chad, still have all our tradeable currency. Could we go harder??

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Kosi is clearly locked away long term. I know Chad signed an extension BUT could we go down that path again?

We likely didn’t overly pursue because there was a likely belief Kosi was a huge chance.

Now?

Well more dollars for Chad, still have all our tradeable currency. Could we go harder??

I dont think Sydney trade him in contract.

 

[Boomer93]

Kosi is clearly locked away long term. I know Chad signed an extension BUT could we go down that path again?

We likely didn’t overly pursue because there was a likely belief Kosi was a huge chance.

Now?

Well more dollars for Chad, still have all our tradeable currency. Could we go harder??

I actually thought we were a sneaky chance at Chad at the end of this season.

At one stage it made a lot of sense. Sydney on the down trend and unlikely to make finals this year (or next year). So they could cash in now and we would trade them more than they would get from free agency compo.

However now Sydney's players are returning from injury they seem to have regain some form.

If they come home relatively well and think they are a shot at finals in 2026, they won't trade.

 

[Alfonz]

I actually thought we were a sneaky chance at Chad at the end of this season.

At one stage it made a lot of sense. Sydney on the down trend and unlikely to make finals this year (or next year). So they could cash in now and we would trade them more than they would get from free agency compo.

However now Sydney's players are returning from injury they seem to have regain some form.

If they come home relatively well and think they are a shot at finals in 2026, they won't trade.

They are most definitely not going to trade. Draft picks do nothing for them while they are all in on Papley, Heeney, Grundy, Mills. These guys are not young. They will think they can do a Collingwood ... dominant side, then miss the 8, then bounce back as a dominant side.

They won't just refuse to trade Warner, they will be trying to bring in someone like McKay, JUH, etc.

 

[The Round House Drunk]

Hmmm And why would that be???

I think Taylor is intimating that LJ’s partner’s body clock might force the issue (she is 33 years old).

 

[Purple Jesus]

Hmmm And why would that be???

Because his missus is 33?

 

[Dockeroo]

Saw this graphic on Twitter and I wondered PurpleReign95 where you got this info from?

Specifically the cells highlighting Sturt and Switta as restricted free agents at the end of next year?
I don’t think this is correct.

1. I can’t imagine either would be in our top 25% paid players which is what RFA’s are. That would mean they are both in the top 11 highest paid players at the club - very doubtful.
2. Switta was drafted in 2017 and will be 9 years at the club at the end of 2026. Therefore when OOC he is automatically a lifetime unrestricted free agent from here on, as I understand it, no matter what his salary is. Jacob Weitering

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Jacob Weitering

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

and the Bont are two more high profile and high paid examples of guys in the same boat.

 

[pK75]

I understand the Darcy discussion after the game Jackson had on the weekend, however just a week before we would have lost against the Roos if Jackson was our solo ruckman, Xerri was massacring him in the ruck and we only starting winning clearances when we switched our rotation and played Darcy in Xerri and Jackson in Darling.
Honestly the 3-400k we are paying Darcy over a journeyman ruck is worth it if it wins us 3-4 games a year we lose without him.
Those wins are the difference between top 4 and top 8.
Edit: plus I want a bigger sample size of Jackson as a mid/ruck to see if he can be as impactful as he is as a mobile ruck.

 

[Midnite65]

I understand the Darcy discussion after the game Jackson had on the weekend, however just a week before we would have lost against the Roos if Jackson was our solo ruckman, Xerri was massacring him in the ruck and we only starting winning clearances when we switched our rotation and played Darcy in Xerri and Jackson in Darling.
Honestly the 3-400k we are paying Darcy over a journeyman ruck is worth it if it wins us 3-4 games a year we lose without him.
Those wins are the difference between top 4 and top 8.
Edit: plus I want a bigger sample size of Jackson as a mid/ruck to see if he can be as impactful as he is as a mobile ruck.

It was highlighted by Leigh Matthews on the Fox Footy show this week how refreshing it was to see Jackson and the Essendon ruck actually have a run and jump at the ball in the centre contest like rucks used to do in the good old days, unlike the majority of the other rucks in the league now that just grab a hold of the other ruck and just wrestle for a tap. As they pointed out when one ruckman tries to hold the other ruck can't really have a fair jump at it which is why we need someone like Darcy to combat those. If Reidy actually used his strength he would be able to do it but he seems to excel as tapping it to the opposition.

 

[Purple Suit]

I think we need to see them play together as much as possible in the last 9 games, but that will mean we can't carry anyone else who isn't capable of running out 4 quarters. We'd be at too much of a loss defensively. I don't think we can afford to carry Fyfe to 250. I would give Fyfe one more full game this week to see of he's truly cooked or not but after that some hard decisions need to be made.

I think this is the best thing, more games will go a long way to determine it from the outside. What Darcy, Jackson and the coach want at the end of the season from the inside will be the real thing.

Everyone is contracted, a lot to play out, guessing the outcome is like picking the GF winner.

While the ruck market seems to be a sellers one, I wouldn’t go trading Darcy immediately unless our doctor is seriously worried long term or Jackson is in No.1 ruck Every game or leave mode. I have seen Darcy improve most games and he could be firing by the finals if it keeps up.

 

[Docker82]

Saw this graphic on Twitter and I wondered PurpleReign95 where you got this info from?

Specifically the cells highlighting Sturt and Switta as restricted free agents at the end of next year?
I don’t think this is correct.

1. I can’t imagine either would be in our top 25% paid players which is what RFA’s are. That would mean they are both in the top 11 highest paid players at the club - very doubtful.
2. Switta was drafted in 2017 and will be 9 years at the club at the end of 2026. Therefore when OOC he is automatically a lifetime unrestricted free agent from here on, as I understand it, no matter what his salary is. Jacob Weitering and the Bont are two more high profile and high paid examples of guys in the same boat.

Pretty sure it's ten years to become an unrestricted free agent regardless of salary.

Most lists like these highlight players with eight or nine years service for the one club as restricted free agents. We only actually know who's restricted and who isn't when the AFL announces it. You're probably right btw in terms of their salary but this is reasonably consistent with how free agency status is generally reported prior to the AFL's official list.

 

[Righteo]

I think Taylor is intimating that LJ’s partner’s body clock might force the issue (she is 33 years old).

She's from Melbourne isn't she? hopefully she's one of those progressive types who thinks having children is murdering the planet and sticks to fur babies instead. Losing Luke Jackson just as he's entering his prime because of domestic drama would be a crippling blow for any future flag aspirations and would easily be one of the most evil thing the footy gods have ever inflicted on us. I get that you need 30-odd blokes to win a flag rah rah rah but he is just that special. He is the one guy that sets us apart from the rest.

If it plays out that way I really hope their baby cures cancer or something.

 

[purplerunsdeep2]

I wonder how much of the Kozzie free cash we now have was used to tempt Reid. Great outcome to get another vic kid signing on

 

[rgauci]

One thing that I haven't seen brought up in the Darcy/Jackson debate is how it affects JL's structure if Darcy leaves.

To me it seems that JL's preference, even before Jackson arrived, is to play two ruckmen in the side. For instance there were a number of occasions that we would play Meek and Darcy in the same side. Not to mention Lobb who was more than capable as a 2nd ruck.

So what happens if we trade Darcy out? My money would be on trying to find a ruck to replace him. Same courses, different horse.

Darcy Cameron was about to sign but hasn’t.

 

[Mags98]

I wonder how much of the Kozzie free cash we now have was used to tempt Reid. Great outcome to get another vic kid signing on

are there limits on how much a first year can be offered $$ on their first extension?

 

[Cobbler]

I dont think Sydney trade him in contract.

Oh no doubt, but stranger things have happened.

Swan’s could make a push for finals. But, let’s say they implode further (unlikely), heat comes on Cox more, players become disgruntled, they chase guys like JUH for big dollars, more players start whispering.

We come with big 7 year offer. Warner requests trade. We move pieces and it becomes a reality.

It’s not outrageous to consider.

 

[fnerd]

Because his missus is 33?

I think Taylor is intimating that LJ’s partner’s body clock might force the issue (she is 33 years old).

So Taylor view is that if the missus wants kids ,she wants them back home in vic then young Luke must(or will) simply bend to his partners wishes?….
interesting

 

[Taylor]

So Taylor view is that if the missus wants kids ,she wants them back home in vic then young Luke must(or will) simply bend to his partners wishes?….
interesting

Family support for a new baby when your partner is a full time professional athlete is critical, Jackson will be mostly absent. Jackson's relationship with his own family isn't great - so it's on her family. Maybe the club can just move her mother over and help out.

But the reality is that, as I found myself, priorities have to shift drastically if plans are to work out post sporting career if they are going to happen at all.

I want them to have their forever happy future, including children if that's in their plan. The reality of that is that they need to get on with that and when they do they (she) will need bulk support. They'll be able to afford it, but it's an excuse that will be leveraged to get a bigger contract in Melbourne.

 

[freo84]

Family support for a new baby when your partner is a full time professional athlete is critical, Jackson will be mostly absent. Jackson's relationship with his own family isn't great - so it's on her family. Maybe the club can just move her mother over and help out.

But the reality is that, as I found myself, priorities have to shift drastically if plans are to work out post sporting career if they are going to happen at all.

I want them to have their forever happy future, including children if that's in their plan. The reality of that is that they need to get on with that and when they do they (she) will need bulk support. They'll be able to afford it, but it's an excuse that will be leveraged to get a bigger contract in Melbourne.

I've got 4 kids with little to no support from either of our extended families and I'm a fifo worker as well.

If you want it to work you make it work. The excuse doesn't fly with me at all.

 

[fnerd]

I've got 4 kids with little to no support from either of our extended families and I'm a fifo worker as well.

If you want it to work you make it work. The excuse doesn't fly with me at all.

Absolutely nailed it m8

It’s beyond laughable when you read pro sport couple earning over 7 figures need to move back (insert x place) due to “support”

When hundred thousands of everyday folk seem to manage and get on with it with AS little and tiny fraction of their wages

 

[fnerd]

Family support for a new baby when your partner is a full time professional athlete is critical, Jackson will be mostly absent.

Wow imagine having partner almost always absent(due to work) and trying to raise a family… I’ve only ever heard of that being a massive issue for pro sports couple on over mill a year…

your reasoning that they ll head back over east and soon is based on the assumption that one ,the body clocks ticking and primarily that that will be HER wish .(and that she will get her way)

In the race of life ALWAYS back self interest, at least you know it’s trying.


At least call a spade a spade hey?

 

[Mags98]

Absolutely nailed it m8

It’s beyond laughable when you read pro sport couple earning over 7 figures need to move back (insert x place) due to “support”

When hundred thousands of everyday folk seem to manage and get on with it with AS little and tiny fraction of their wages

what argument even is this? if everyone else had the opportunity to be closer to and have support of a family network im sure theyd take up that shot?

 

[freo84]

what argument even is this? if everyone else had the opportunity to be closer to and have support of a family network im sure theyd take up that shot?

Then don't commit by signing a contract.

Pretty easy.

 

[south beach]

I think this is the best thing, more games will go a long way to determine it from the outside. What Darcy, Jackson and the coach want at the end of the season from the inside will be the real thing.

Everyone is contracted, a lot to play out, guessing the outcome is like picking the GF winner.

While the ruck market seems to be a sellers one, I wouldn’t go trading Darcy immediately unless our doctor is seriously worried long term or Jackson is in No.1 ruck Every game or leave mode. I have seen Darcy improve most games and he could be firing by the finals if it keeps up.

Trading Darcy is lunacy need that big body horses for courses and depth. What if Jacko gets injured. Brisbane only brought Clark Keating in for finals in mainly and he killed it every time.

 

[Paracleet]

This is a pointless argument because it's irrelevant. The number of high profile AFL players on large pay packets to be traded in contract because their partner had a baby is 0 and it's going to remain 0.