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[serial_thrilla]

 

[apuchar]

He’s played one good game. It’s an offer reflective of where he’s at.

Yeah I don't agree.

 

[s_wd6]

Yeah I don't agree.

Can’t see what he’s done to deserve a better contract than Worner. Same draft year, about the same level of depth in their lines with Worner slightly ahead. Similar amount of games played. Worner with much more games played at a high level. Almost the perfect player comparison in terms of contract

 

[apuchar]

Can’t see what he’s done to deserve a better contract than Worner

We weren't going to lose Worner and one is a mid and the other a mid-sized defender. A lot of clubs are chasing Raz hard. We needed to compete.

 

[s_wd6]

We weren't going to lose Worner and one is a mid and the other a mid-sized defender. A lot of clubs are chasing Raz hard. We needed to compete.

Other clubs chasing our player doesn’t suddenly make them better. Worner this season has been more valuable to us than Erasmus. You pay overs to lure players over. If other clubs want to do that they can. And if Ras wants to go to them he can. Until he plays weekly like he did last game then a two year deal (at a reported 500-600k mind you) is more than fair.

 

[Carnthedockers]

Yeah I don't agree.

Can you think of another? I’d have to agree. First game he’s resembled close to a top 10 pick. The slowest of slow burns.

 

[Taylor]

For everyone's sake I hope he plays out of his skin like that every game for the rest of the year and Freo offer him three years and he signs it and continues on.

Who was his opponent Saturday night?

 

[apuchar]

Other clubs chasing our player doesn’t suddenly make them better. Worner this season has been more valuable to us than Erasmus. You pay overs to lure players over. If other clubs want to do that they can. And if Ras wants to go to them he can. Until he plays weekly like he did last game then a two year deal (at a reported 500-600k mind you) is more than fair.

I'm not sure any player plays their best game every week. Otherwise our midfield wouldn't get pantz in clearances every five minutes.

 

[apuchar]

Can you think of another? I’d have to agree. First game he’s resembled close to a top 10 pick. The slowest of slow burns.

That's what I don't agree with. Considering his lack of opportunity and low game time when he does play, I feel he has shown a fair bit on many occasions. People just focus on any error he may make and ignore the good things he does. Many of these same people concentrate on the good thing Johnson does and conveniently ignore the (multiple) errors he has made. especially considering the much greater level of opportunity he has been given.

 

[Wray27]

Can you think of another? I’d have to agree. First game he’s resembled close to a top 10 pick. The slowest of slow burns.

GWS game was pretty good.

 

[Righteo]

Had a pretty damn good game against the Pies at the MCG in 2023 as a 19yo. I think a lot of people made their minds up about Raz early and for whatever reason are finding it hard to accept he has improvement in him.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

That's what I don't agree with. Considering his lack of opportunity and low game time when he does play, I feel he has shown a fair bit on many occasions. People just focus on any error he may make and ignore the good things he does. Many of these same people concentrate on the good thing Johnson does and conveniently ignore the (multiple) errors he has made. especially considering the much greater level of opportunity he has been given.

I just dont see how Ras is anything but a handy AFL player in anywhere other than midfield and there is like 1 spot per team for a "handy AFL mid." What's his elite traits? He could forge out a ok career but I dont see him a midfield gun, do you?

 

[freo_leo29]

Yeah. That's a nothing offer by us

2 years is a healthy offer for him

If not for the last month then 1 year would have been fine too

 

[freo_leo29]

Can you think of another? I’d have to agree. First game he’s resembled close to a top 10 pick. The slowest of slow burns.

I think his 2 best games have been his last 2

One of few to show up in the first half of the blues game

 

[Taylor]

Amazing how performance lifts when guaranteed best twenty two players are returning from injury.

 

[bruzaar62]

Amazing how performance lifts when guaranteed best twenty two players are returning from injury.

More like -amazing when given a fair crack and opportunity to perform.
Yes he’s a slow burn but proved he’s well up to it on the weekend.

 

[Dockeroo]

Anyone hear the “Tradies tease” at the end of Cleary and McClure podcast yesterday?

- which star of the competition, who re-signed in the last 12 months, is now considering a move back to his home state?

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

I just dont see how Ras is anything but a handy AFL player in anywhere other than midfield and there is like 1 spot per team for a "handy AFL mid." What's his elite traits? He could forge out a handy career but I dont see him a midfield gun, do you?

Could be wishful thinking, but some of his intercepting efforts last game were welcome flashes of the hyped up aerial game that we haven't really seen at AFL level. Needs a lot more than 1 game to convince that that's a trait he can exploit at AFL level. But that seems like the obvious road to unlocking his versatility.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Anyone hear the “Tradies tease” at the end of Cleary and McClure podcast yesterday?

- which star of the competition, who re-signed in the last 12 months, is now considering a move back to his home state?

They are clearly talking about Bobby Hill. Given the whole situation I am not losing any sleep over missing out on him tbh. Just screams us getting ****ed over

 

[go_the_dockers]

 

[s_wd6]

I was gonna say he is someone we should be going for since he's ooc and could be cheap, but really he's kicked as many goals as Murphy Reid this year

 

[fnerd]

They are clearly talking about Bobby Hill. Given the whole situation I am no losing any sleep over missing out on him tbh. Just screams us getting ****ed over

Yeah as much as I think Bobby hill would be near perfect fit for us in terms of type of player our team needs , especially since our current available options are now pretty slim ,he’s still no where near good enough player to take the massive risk he’d be for the club to bring him in.

Would almost guarantee he ends up hightailing it back to Victoria after about 2 very underwhelming and likely controversial seasons … with the kicker being for about the 1/4 of trade price we paid

 

[mayne iac]

I just dont see how Ras is anything but a handy AFL player in anywhere other than midfield and there is like 1 spot per team for a "handy AFL mid." What's his elite traits? He could forge out a ok career but I dont see him a midfield gun, do you?

Thoughts on Priddis or Barlow?

 

[Lach72]

9 Leon Kickett
Small Forward | 172cm | 07/11/2006

Stats: 21 disposals, 5 tackles, 4 inside 50s

Undoubtedly the highlight of the day belonged to Pickett, who rose for an out-and-out speccy during the third quarter. He played the high forward role well, searching up the ground to help Swan Districts connect down the line. The over-ager showed deceptive strength and ferocity in his tackling to play into the conditions with solid pressure. Kickett was also quite clean and classy with ball in hand, which was useful when looking to chain up in the attacking phase.

I watched him at Fremantle Oval 18’d against the Under 21’s or whatever it was.
He’s got som zip about him and some skills but he is tiny. And I don’t mean in height. If he turned sideways he’d fall down a drain. No meat on those bones

 

[Lach72]

We traded our way out of the last 3 bloody drafts in order to secure Jackson and Bolton. not exactly bone idle.

And who actually knows which players we've been approaching behind the scenes. It won't always be reported.

We did not trade out of the draft to get Bolton

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Thoughts on Priddis or Barlow?

Ras is never getting close to pre-leg break Barlow, last few years of Freo Barlow maybe. Doesnt have the smarts or size.

Priddis is possibly the absolute peak of the ceiling but he doesnt seem to have the strength or quickness of thinking.

I've always thought the absolute best case is Darcy Parish, realistic is Willem Drew. Sometimes those plodder accumulating types steal an AA jacket (or Brownlow in Priddis' case) but they arent winning players IMO, particularly this day and age. They are support players, which I think Ras can be.

End of the day, Ras should do what's best for himself, I highly doubt that is staying at Freo so we'll see what happens.