2025 Non AFL Attendance, TV, Finance etc

[Gizmo]

That's true but can you explain the reasoning to me

The NSW and QLD teams wanted to start the season around the same time as the NRL because giving them a two week head start was making it harder for them to promote themselves in those markets. The AFL then came up with something that hasn't really worked that well so far, but can be fixed by having everyone play week 1.

 

[Diogenes]

Thanks - got it. The NSW press has usually presented it as I said - a week with more AFL than NRL games in NSW/Qld was going to produce a sudden rush of support.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

It's also to make GC and GWS's home games more of an "event" to mitigate the loss-making nature of both teams. That's 1 fewer of the 8-9 home games in their home stadium hat you have to worry about marketing, getting people through the gates and attention, than if it was a random week in May or August or whatever.

 

[Cmarsh]

I always wondered why virtual no name Aussie footy players seemed to so easily get games as US football punters. This explains why. Now the disparate system could fall due to legal action.

Anti-Australian punting class action plaintiff wants equity for US kids

The lead plaintiff in a US class action against Australian punters in American college football says he just wants a level playing field for high school students hoping to get a collegiate scholarship.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Aussie in exile]

The NSW and QLD teams wanted to start the season around the same time as the NRL because giving them a two week head start was making it harder for them to promote themselves in those markets. The AFL then came up with something that hasn't really worked that well so far, but can be fixed by having everyone play week 1.

The problem the AFL has at the moment is the NRL Las Vegas event draws a lot of media attention, and it's won't be any different next year, but i agree that a full round of matches in round 1 would help get more media attention.

 

[Gizmo]

The problem the AFL has at the moment is the NRL Las Vegas event draws a lot of media attention, and it's won't be any different next year, but i agree that a full round of matches in round 1 would help get more media attention.

Does it really matter though? Good for the NRL if Las Vegas does well for them, but most people outside of NSW/QLD don't care. Just give us a full opening round of footy, where everyone's team plays.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I always wondered why virtual no name Aussie footy players seemed to so easily get games as US football punters. This explains why. Now the disparate system could fall due to legal action.

Anti-Australian punting class action plaintiff wants equity for US kids

The lead plaintiff in a US class action against Australian punters in American college football says he just wants a level playing field for high school students hoping to get a collegiate scholarship.

www.abc.net.au

To be fair, it reads more about the logical difficulty in translating education structures across countries, fuelled my a minority of Americans who in the Trump tariff era hate less opportunity for Americans.

There'd no suggestion that there's any large number of Aussies going against the spirit of NCAA rules of amateurism, and minimum and maximum standards of previous educational attainment just that given the difficulty of translating Australian school records to American ones there is some fudging.

 

[BobbyMorri]

It's also to make GC and GWS's home games more of an "event" to mitigate the loss-making nature of both teams. That's 1 fewer of the 8-9 home games in their home stadium hat you have to worry about marketing, getting people through the gates and attention, than if it was a random week in May or August or whatever.

I would say playing Collingwood/Essendon is an event in itself.

Playing them in school holidays would be even better.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Does it really matter though? Good for the NRL if Las Vegas does well for them, but most people outside of NSW/QLD don't care. Just give us a full opening round of footy, where everyone's team plays.

The Las Vegas event has drawn the interest of other sports watchers as well, and they are watching the event closely to see if it can be applied to their sport.
I would be amazed if there wasn't anyone there from the AFL trying to see if they could pick up tips to benefit the AFL from such an event.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I would say playing Collingwood/Essendon is an event in itself.

Playing them in school holidays would be even better.

Yes but the vagaries of fixturing means that that's not always possible with byes, five/six day breaks, 6/6/6 rule, and the fact that you can double up these games anyway (ie Pies cna play GWS and GC away in both school holidays and in Opening Round).

And in school holidays if one/both teams are playing badly no guarantee the game sells out. Opening round it does. No guarantee that you can promote the game to neutral fans with clean air. Opening round you can. Etc. Etc.

Opening round locks it in, is easier to confirm with vagaries of fixtures, etc.

 

[Cmarsh]

To be fair, it reads more about the logical difficulty in translating education structures across countries, fuelled my a minority of Americans who in the Trump tariff era hate less opportunity for Americans.

There'd no suggestion that there's any large number of Aussies going against the spirit of NCAA rules of amateurism, and minimum and maximum standards of previous educational attainment just that given the difficulty of translating Australian school records to American ones there is some fudging.

Doesn't say anything in the article about misunderstandings or misaligned educational systems as a cause. Rather, mature bodies going up against teenagers being seen as unfair.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Doesn't say anything in the article about misunderstandings or misaligned educational systems as a cause. Rather, mature bodies going up against teenagers being seen as unfair.

Apologies, the original Fox report did.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Vegas, whatever your thoughts on it, is great advertising for the code. Significant tv ratings increases only help solidify the concept long term.

No way of telling that this is worthwhile though without knowing the cost. We do know the NRL is fronting a lot of the logistics bill of it all, such as flying journalists over themselves, even though the Fiji Airways sponsorship offsets some of it.

Imagine if the AFL actually tried to win the big wank fest about the first weekend and played big games in Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne at MCG etc etc

What evidence is there that the Carlton vs. Richmond traditional Melbourne-opening game is any less of an event, revenue generator or loss in the "wank fest" codes in the years that it wasn't the first game of the season overall. Therefore, it's only gains and not a real loss? Surely?

 

[The_Wookie]

No way of telling that this is worthwhile though without knowing the cost. We do know the NRL is fronting a lot of the logistics bill of it all, such as flying journalists over themselves, even though the Fiji Airways sponsorship offsets some of it.

they also get 600k a year from the Las Vegas Convention Authority

 

[The Educator]

they also get 600k a year from the Las Vegas Convention Authority

Which might pay for the flights of the participating teams

 

[Cmarsh]

$20 million upgrade for Henson Park in Sydney.

AFL is contributing the most for the upgrade, while no contribution from a RL authority, despite it benefiting a RL club who uses it.

Henson Park set for $20 million upgrade

Home to the Newtown Jets and the Sydney Swans AFLW teams, the redevelopment will reinforce Henson Park as a key sporting hub.

www.zerotackle.com

 

[The Educator]

$20 million upgrade for Henson Park in Sydney.

AFL is contributing the most for the upgrade, while no contribution from a RL authority, despite it benefiting a RL club who uses it.

Henson Park set for $20 million upgrade

Home to the Newtown Jets and the Sydney Swans AFLW teams, the redevelopment will reinforce Henson Park as a key sporting hub.

www.zerotackle.com

To be fair, I doubt the AFL would co-fund some second tier stadium in SA or WA if it was going to be used as an NRLW stadium

 

[Cmarsh]

To be fair, I doubt the AFL would co-fund some second tier stadium in SA or WA if it was going to be used as an NRLW stadium

But Henson park is also used as a RL ground. Yet no funding provided from RL circles despite the direct benefit to their sport the stadium upgrades will bring.

 

[Walshawk]

$20 million upgrade for Henson Park in Sydney.

AFL is contributing the most for the upgrade, while no contribution from a RL authority, despite it benefiting a RL club who uses it.

Henson Park set for $20 million upgrade

Home to the Newtown Jets and the Sydney Swans AFLW teams, the redevelopment will reinforce Henson Park as a key sporting hub.

www.zerotackle.com

It is the AFL driving the upgrade. Newtown don’t have to share the ground. Fair trade I reckon.

 

[Cmarsh]

It is the AFL driving the upgrade. Newtown don’t have to share the ground. Fair trade I reckon.

And yet they do.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Is this more sports washing from Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia To Inject USD500 Million Into New Eight-Team T20 League; Approval Rests on Jay Shah

The Saudi Arabia T20 League will need approval from the ICC and cricket boards like Cricket Australia and the BCCI.

cricxtasy.com

 

[Cmarsh]

Is this more sports washing from Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia To Inject USD500 Million Into New Eight-Team T20 League; Approval Rests on Jay Shah

The Saudi Arabia T20 League will need approval from the ICC and cricket boards like Cricket Australia and the BCCI.

cricxtasy.com

It's unbelievable how much cricket has spread around the world because of t20. Even the Saudis are interested in it.

 

[Diogenes]

Newtown is a NSWRL club, they and the NSWRL would be lucky to have two pennies to rub together. Should the NRL get involved in a NSW club? Interesting question

 

[Aucklander]

Newtown is a NSWRL club, they and the NSWRL would be lucky to have two pennies to rub together. Should the NRL get involved in a NSW club? Interesting question

Yes they should. It's part of the pathways to the NRL. In fact, they should do more everywhere.

 

[Cmarsh]

Newtown is a NSWRL club, they and the NSWRL would be lucky to have two pennies to rub together. Should the NRL get involved in a NSW club? Interesting question

Newtown want their name connected to an NRL expansion club just like the North Sydney Bears are connected to the proposed Perth expansion.

Should they be successful, they will want to play some home games at Henson Park.